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Clarence Walker August 14th, 2003, 10:07 AM Thanks Rob for the feedback. The effect I'm looking for is the "soft" edge PIP circle or rectangle. I've heard that these can be created in Photoshop, but since I don't have it, I'd like to know if there's a website that might have these as downloadable files?
I'm currently using Premiere 6.0 to edit.
Thanks again,
Clarence
Steven-Marc Couchouron August 15th, 2003, 04:58 AM <<<-- Originally posted by Yi Fong Yu : do you folks see premiere+ae as one product in the future? -->>>
In Premiere Pro, when you open the effects palette you now get a kind of reduced AE interface with a timeline and tracks on which you can set keyframes.
The difference being that you can't really composite AND set keyframes on the same timeline.
Which is why I doubt AE and Premiere will become one product. Premiere Pro adds some nice new effects control but remains truly an editor. You can now however import a Premiere project into AE and keep the effects keyframes. So, in a sense Premiere and AE already ARE an integrated product, which is why Adobe is making interesting offers with it's new Digital Video Collection (including Encore DVD). Adobe is probably hoping that AE will bring pros to use Premiere. The sales of one product help the sales of the other ! ;-)
Rob Lohman August 15th, 2003, 09:34 AM Any paint package should allow you to createa a soft edge for
PiP use. Vegas can create it by itself if I'm not mistaken.
Scott Osborne August 15th, 2003, 05:15 PM I use AE 5.5 Pro in about every Wedding I shoot. I use it for composting multiple windows of animated video for the montages. I also use for my B&W, Sepia, and other colorazation work. I use it to add my Cinemotion film effects to my video. I use it for all of my final project composting work too. I usually edit and render my production into seperate parts then I edit all of my audio on Wavelab. I take all of these things and blend them together within AE. This way it very easy to add global color corrections and Hue and saturation settings.
Maybe its because I am an anal rententive Video nerd, but I cant output any final project whether its a wedding or otherwise without first "tweaking it" with AE.
Yi Fong Yu August 16th, 2003, 11:28 AM you guys may be forgetting that i'm using hi8. i've tried my friend's dv on mine and it works flawless... but i can't afford the xl1s yet (still saving). using prem to cap hi8 THROUGH the 8500DV (ati writes the worse drivers) is like hell on earth.
like i said i did a FRESH reinstall of wxp at least 3 times already with fresh installs of prem, ae, etc. and yesh dma is all enabled and all of the latest wxp win updates+ latest ati drivers catalyst 3.6, etc. (i'm a IT guy). on the 'base' computer front there are no problems.
both avi and mp1, mp2, quicktime, etc. all are slow with prem. when i'm done cleaning my room i'll have more time to get a screencap of what i'm talking about.
Glenn Chan August 18th, 2003, 11:50 AM Can you capture in virtualdub and compress the footage into something like Microsoft DV AVI? That might make things go faster since DV works well in Premiere.
Or just get Vegas, that is a cool program (very different feel though).
Yi Fong Yu August 18th, 2003, 12:31 PM i suppose i could. gonna have to give it a try after i fix me computer =).
Dave Burt August 19th, 2003, 02:01 AM I recently purchased a Panasonic AG-DVX100 camera and am trying to use it with Adobe Premiere 6.0, however my PC (a Compaq Evo W4000 with a Texas Instruments OHCI IEEE 1394 Host Controller Firewire card) is not recognizing my camera. In the past, I have used a Sony camcorder with this system and it worked fine. I have also connected a Panasonic AG-EZ30 and it does not recognize that either. I went to Microsoft's KnowledgeBase, downloaded and installed their patch, but that didn't work either.
Any suggestions?
Glenn Gipson August 19th, 2003, 05:52 AM Does Premiere Pro support 24bit audio? I already know that audition does, but I don't see where it says whether or not Premiere Pro does.
Adrian Douglas August 19th, 2003, 07:45 AM Since Premiere 6.0 was released way before the DVX it won't support the camera natively. Try using the "Generic DV Device" setting and see if that works.
Ed Smith August 19th, 2003, 10:33 AM Sounds like its trying to look for your old Sony.
As Adrian said try using generic DV device, or go to the device properties and select Panasonic from the drop down menu and then see whether your camera appears there, you can also use the check status button to find out whether the camera is on line.
To find the device properties box goto the edit menu in premiere then I think its settings (the one at the bottom) and then scratch disk and device control)
All the best,
Ed
Jason Tammemagi August 20th, 2003, 02:08 AM Hi there,
I may have no choice but to do much of my audio work in Premiere or After Effects (as they are pretty much the only programs I have access to). Are there any essential plug-ins that may improve the quality and flexibility of my audio that I should try to track down? The cheaper the better but even if they are expensive, let me know anyway.
Thanks in advance,
Jay.
Jed Williamson August 22nd, 2003, 04:59 PM Adobe video collection is now shipping.
Well first you have to pony up $799 :)
Yi Fong Yu August 23rd, 2003, 12:38 PM anyone know technically what version will prem pro be at? 7.0?
Nick Medrano August 23rd, 2003, 03:14 PM Yes, 7.0
Mike Zorger August 27th, 2003, 08:13 AM I just put in Windows XP Pro a few days ago, and when I opened up premier and tried to capture video, it said it was offline, So i guess my card is not turned on or something. Does anyone know what i should do?????? Thanks.
John Eriksson August 27th, 2003, 08:14 AM Does Premiere Pro have native support for HD? And if so what do we need Aspect HD for?
Mark Jefferson August 27th, 2003, 08:18 AM Hi Mike,
I have had a lot of problems with capturing in Premiere. Try switching to another capture ulitity like DVIO (so-so) or ScenelyzerLive (really good but costs $40)
Cheers,
Mark
Glenn Gipson August 27th, 2003, 08:59 AM Premier Pro can handle HD, but I think you need a high end HD card for that, like any other HD NLE. The benefit of AspectHD, as far as I read, is that it not only handles the MPEG2-TS format well, but it also boast of an almost artifact free process of editing highly compressed HD material, all via firewire. And Aspect HD can convert the MPEG2-TS format to other formats as well.
http://www.cineform.com/products.html
John Eriksson August 27th, 2003, 12:26 PM Thank you for clearing that up for me..
Jason Tammemagi August 28th, 2003, 02:07 AM Hi folks,
I've been cutting in Premiere, rendering the footage, then putting on effects in After Effects where I will do the final render from. Obviously I want to keep the best quality possible. So, when I'm rendering from Premiere should I select 'No Compression' to keep the original quality or does that change the format of the footage (as it came in as dv footage). Or should I be selecting 'Microsoft DV' (the only dv related compression I seem to have)?
TIA,
Jay.
Glen Elliott August 28th, 2003, 08:48 PM Well it's out- and I'm sure at least a few of you have picked it up. I'm interested in what your opinions are about it. The good the bad, how it stacks up against other NLE's like Vegas 4, etc.
PS Is 6.0 "upgradable" to Premiere Pro, in other words if I were to pick up a copy of the Update will it work or is it strictly a 6.5 update?
Nick Medrano August 29th, 2003, 12:35 AM The fact that is does not yet support 24p is what is keeping me from using it much at all. Then again, I haven't shot much footage lately....I will tomorrow:)
BJ Thomas August 29th, 2003, 12:53 AM I got it this past monday and been playing with it. There are lots of new cool stuff and real time playback of effects is nice. I love the way everything is intergrated between after effects, photoshop, encore and premiere. You can pull previous version of adobe projects into pro but I had a few problems like sound not working properly or certain effects not working. So best thing to do is finish whatever old project you have in the old premiere and start new on Pro. All shortkeys are customizable. Most windows and tools can be customized to your hearts content.
The new color correction tools are pretty cool. Also I use the Shuttle Xpress and in old premiere when turn the jog wheel it stutters along instead of quickly moving. In Pro that has been fixed and I love it. Nested tracks is another amazing thing in Pro, no more virtual clips which I never used. No more a/b editing and I am getting use to single track editing and it is not hard.
A few things that I do miss is the way the story board is handled. Creating a new bin allows you to treat it like a storyboard and it handles in the same way as previous storyboard but when you are editing a large clip and grabbing different sections of the clip onto storyboard, the tumbnail is the original head of source clip for every clip you drag into storyboard. Then you have to manually click on each clip and play it to give it a different tumbnail which I think is extra work.
Another thing I miss is my one of favorite effects that I grabbed from photoshop 5 called diffuse glow. It doesn't work properly with Pro. Also Pro only works with XP.
I've played with Vegas Video and Adobe has caught up with, and surpassed what Vegas can do. I got the video package so encore, after effects, premiere pro and audition gives me most of the tools to get the job done. I love it.
K. Forman August 29th, 2003, 04:57 AM BJ- Coud you tell me more about the diffuse glow? Did you use it in Premiere 6?
Mike Zorger August 29th, 2003, 06:09 AM how is the slow motion? in 6.0 and 6.5 the slow motion was horrible.
BJ Thomas August 29th, 2003, 06:09 AM Yes, if you have a copy of photoshop 5 or less, go to the plugins folder and copy the file called diffused glow and copy into premieres plugin folder. When you open up premiere it will be in the distort section of the effects folder. It gives clips with light a nice effect.
BJ Thomas August 29th, 2003, 07:18 AM Slow motion looks better now because it is using frame blending similar to After Effects. But I think after effect does better slow motion overall so I import the clips I want slowed down in AE. They didn't give Pro a slow motion envelope, you still have to cut the clip if you want to change speed in a clip.
Glen Elliott August 29th, 2003, 03:08 PM From the sounds of it Adobe really has cleaned up their act with Premiere. Beings it's an entirely new program not just 6.5 re-written with some changes works to it's advantage. It's really hard to make any hard judgements on it beings I have yet to use it myself but from the sound of it, it doesn't sound like it "surpassed" Vegas. Maybe caught up with. All those things with the exclusion of nested timelines (which sound very sweet) Vegas 4 already does. Plus Vegas supports 24p, HD, and has a glow filter that works (lol). Not to mention Vegas has compositing support- you need AE for that is using Premiere Pro.
Does anyone know if it can be upgraded to from 6.0?
Glenn Chan August 30th, 2003, 12:56 PM Is it stable?
Andrew Leigh August 30th, 2003, 11:25 PM Hi,
When I mute an Audio Track it immediately removes the rendering and I have to start again. It take 4 hours to render the entire project.
What has changed? Certainly nothing on my side. Is there another setting to change?
Thanks
Andrew
Ed Smith August 31st, 2003, 07:36 AM Andrew,
A bit more information needed
I take it you are using Premiere, What version??
How many layers are you rendering?
I've tried it on P6.5 with a project which has 4 video layers and 4 audio. All which needed rendering. When I muted an audio track or all audio tracks I did not need to re-render!!!
What are your settings in keyframe and rendering options?
What is your processor and how much RAM do you mave?
How much space is left on your HD?
I take it this has not happened before?
All the best,
Ed
David Hurdon August 31st, 2003, 08:28 AM I've just added Premiere 6.5 to the Adobe folder, nestled up to 6.02. When I first ran it with an imported project the real time preview worked and video in source and monitor windows played properly. When I shut down to connect my VX2000 and set up device control everything played out to the camera/vcr perfectly but the monitor and source windows show a slideshow like preview while the camera/vcr view is perfect. Strangely, Alt-scrubbing plays perfectly all around. I tried a bunch of setting changes including disabling hardware acceleration to no effect. Must I disconnect the camera to get proper performance in preview? Is it something else I'm missing?
David Hurdon
Nick Medrano August 31st, 2003, 10:51 AM Yeap. If you register the product at www.adobe.com/register you are entitled to a complimentary download of MAGIC BULLET. This includes the 24p import/export feature which works hand in hand with the Panasonic Dvx100...but Im wondering if anyone knows more about this. Is this how Premiere is going to solve the 24p problem?
Andrew Leigh August 31st, 2003, 11:31 AM Hi Ed,
Thanks for the reply.
a) Premiere 6.0 with a DVRaptor Card
b) 4 Video and 4 Audio
c) All boxes in Keyframe and Rendering are unchecked but for Optimise Stills which is checked. It is set to Lower Field First and Preview from Disk.
d) It is a PIII @ 733MHz with 512M of Ram (it does not seem long ago that this was a "Hot Ship").
e) I use two Hardrives for Video (apart from my System Drive which is a 20Gig).
The First drive is a 40 gig 7200 Rpm WD which has all the project settings, preview files etc on it as well as some of the raw footage. The preview files are close to 9gig and this drive still has 3,7gig free.
The second drive is identical and has only raw footage and has 6,1gig free.
After this project I am replacing on of the 40gig's with a 180gig as space is a problem.
This has happened before but I thought it was something stupid I had done i.e. a keystroke. I can now duplicate the problem.
Lastly it is normal for me to be able to mute and unmute without having to re-render.
Cheers
Andrew
Brian Wood August 31st, 2003, 12:08 PM I do all my projects on an external hd so I can move between my computer and my friends computer. I finished a video and took the drive and went over to my friends house. When we got there we opened the premiere file and everything was there and perfect. We tried to output it to tape and at random points in the video (like in the middle of clips) the audio will slow down, like slow motion audio. Then after awile (again its random) it will return to normal. This was not the case on my computer. It seems to corolate to a greenish line at the top of the timeline (its right under the line that dictates how much of your project you want to render) Now were both using Windows XP (his is pro mine is home) and we both have Premiere 6.5 and all the project settings should be the same because the project settings are saved. If anyone could help me with this it would be great and HAPPY EARLY LABOR DAY to all you guys :)
Brian
Peter Moore August 31st, 2003, 12:39 PM This is a bug in Premier with certain sound drivers, I think. The solution is to re-render the whole thing to an AVI file, and then output to tape from the AVI file. It should be fine then.
Lars Siden August 31st, 2003, 12:47 PM Hi,
Tried to make a Slideshow in the brand new Premiere Pro.... but I can't find any option like "scale imported media to fit"...
So when I import pictures ( some vertically and some horizontally ) I have to manually adjust the SCALE parameter picture by picture...is that the only way?
In Vegas 4, all pics are scaled to DVD PAL ( if I have set the program to autoscale )
Have I missed something? The manual is rather terse about importing/scaling ( they only mention that you'll loose quality if you zoom too much... )
// Lazze
Joe Pasarela August 31st, 2003, 04:57 PM Actually, it's not Magic Bullet. From the Adobe site (http://www.adobe.com/special/premiere/redgiant_descrip.html):
Movie Looks transforms your video using cinematic tints and glows with simple-to-apply presets. Movie Looks is a direct descendant of the award-winning Magic Bullet Suite from The Orphanage™, featured in the popular Hollywood films such as "Vanilla Sky" to music videos such as Cher’s "A Song For The Lonely."
Applies a cinematic look with a single click
Provides ten presets based on scenes from television programs and popular movies
Optimized for Intel® Pentium® 4 and Pentium 4 Xeon multiprocessor systems
Transforms clips with floating-point precision
Upgradable to a total of 50 Looks presets with the Movie Looks Library
So its just the Look Suite portion of Magic Bullet, not the deinterlacing part. And only a subset of looks at that. Not bad for free, but certainly not Magic Bullet.
JP
Nick Medrano August 31st, 2003, 05:49 PM aw damn, i knew it was too good to be true.....
Brian Wood August 31st, 2003, 06:43 PM Thanks, Do you know if this bug is fixed in Premiere Pro?
Brian
Ed Smith September 1st, 2003, 02:52 AM Hi Andy,
Thanks for the detailed reply.
It might be worth upgrading Premiere to 6.02 or other wwise buy Premiere Pro or 6.5.
Your machine is a bit slow now, how ever that does not look like the problem, Unless its casheing into the memory.
HD space does not seem to be the problem.
There should not be a problem with audio muteing affecting video tracks (you might need to render audio), however if you mute a video track you will have to re-render.
It might be worth reseting to default. As you open up Premiere press I think Ctrl+Shift. This will reset everything in Premiere.
Peter Moore September 1st, 2003, 08:02 AM Don't know, but they said Premier Pro is built from the ground up, so I would certainly hope so!
Waco Oguin September 2nd, 2003, 07:15 PM I'm editing a project that was shot in frame mode on a canon xl1.The video looks perfect untill I add an effect or add a title, then the colors are slighted muted and it's a little jagged and blury. If I export a video file straight from premiere, it looks fine, but if I export it from after effects, it has the same jagged/blury look.
The people at Adobe tell me it's because of the frame mode.
I've tried using "no fields" with the same effect.
Thanks,
Waco
Dan Lahav September 2nd, 2003, 10:37 PM I tried to run Adobe Premiere Pro on my computer and as it starts loading up, i get the error message "Adobe Premiere Pro cannot run on this computer because the processor does not support the SSE instruction set."
My computer specs are:
1.4ghz AMD T-bird
512MB RAM
Geforce 3
etc etc...
Charles King September 3rd, 2003, 01:14 AM I don't know if this helps but I think the problem is Premiere pro is optimize for Pentium 4 processors. I could be wrong altogether.
Hans Henrik Bang September 3rd, 2003, 02:21 AM That is a nasty wall to hit... The problem is already described in Adobes knowledge database. Look it up here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/31a06.htm
Basically support of SSE instruction set is a requirement and older AMD processors do not support this. I believe that the Palomino core was the first AMD processor to support SSE.
Basically the way I see it, you are out of luck until you buy a new CPU.
Hans Henrik
Waco Oguin September 3rd, 2003, 08:55 AM I'm editing a project in premiere that was shot in frame mode on a canon xl1.The video looks perfect untill I add an effect or add a title, then the colors are slighted muted and it's a little jagged and blury. If I export a video file straight from premiere, it looks fine, but if I export it from after effects, it has the same jagged/blury look.
The people at Adobe tell me it's because of the frame mode.
I've tried using "no fields" with the same effect.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Waco
Glen Elliott September 3rd, 2003, 09:05 AM *Vegas fans around the world snicker*
Ed Smith September 3rd, 2003, 09:51 AM How does it look on a picture monitor (TV) is still blurry?
Are you using Mac or PC?
What version of Premiere?
Are all your settings the same? Use the settings viewer to find out in Premiere?
Thanks,
Ed
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