Try recapturing like 10 minutes of the video and see what happens.

I am not sure if freeing or defragging will do. Some NLEs get a little fussy about defragging in the middle of a project. Rendering might help prevent that.

I tried to recapture 10mins and for some reason the machine fell over - however I do not believe thats the issue. And freed up some space on the HD.

I am running a DV500+ capture card and so thought OK lets see whether they will play in DV tools. And blow and behold they all played correctly in there all saying the correct size - not a problem.

So I created a Premiere storyboard in DV tools of what I had created. Closed DV tools and opened Premiere, imported the storyboard and still Premiere thinks they are only a couple of minutes each - Man this is getting annoying.

I also tried un-installing and re-installing Premiere but that did not work.

Anything else?

Cheers again,

Ed

Here is a really wierd possibillity...if you are using a pc.. I don't think it will be the answer. but worth a try. sometimes windows gets confused as to the size of the hard drive as reported by the hard drive to the program.
Try running scandisk and see if it says that windows is reporting the wrong size for the drive. if it is, then use the option to repair that error. I have had this happen on a few machines when I know that there is enough room but a program says there is not... Do not let scandisk repair the errors automatically, otherwise you will never know what the error was, if there was one...
Roy

when you preview something on premiere it seems to take forever even for a small 5MB file. the workflow just seems to hectic. i've played around with it but haven't had a chance to edit an entire 30min-40min short. but just from playing around with 5MB file Prem 6.x is just so slow. i hope Prem "Pro" is truly re-written from scratch =). i've used apple's "Final Cut Pro" when you drag clips around, manipulate them, preview, etc. it just seems so much faster. 2bad i can't get that for the PC. what's the 'fastest' NLE software on PC?

I can't offer a whole lotta insight, but I will say that I recently tried Vegas 4, and I'm VERY impressed with it over Premiere. Specifically, the workflow. It’ll take some getting used to... but I'm going 100% Vegas.

Download the Scenalyser capture program (there is a demo version at www.Scenalyser.com) and see if you can view the entire clip. Although this will not solve your problem I guess it will indicate if there is something wrong with the capture and the saving of the files to the disk.

whats the easiest way to make scrolling credits in premiere? i can' figure this one out..

thanks,
ryan

Use the title designer File> New> Title.

Depending on what version you have will depend on how you go about creating them in Title designer.

V6 or V6.5?

All the best,

Ed

Hans thanks for the suggestion,

I have done the same sort of thing you are talking about but used DV Tools - created by Pinnacle and comes with the DV500+ capture card. They all worked in that program!!!

Thanks,

Ed

i have 6.0

so i make the title.. use the rolling title tool.. and thenwhen i put it in.. it'll work out the motion?

thanks..

I have never used the scrolling tools in Premiere, but have had good results using individual cards, and use the motion settings. I start with the card at the bottom of the screen, and finish with it at the top. Then the next one, and so on. It works fine, and I have found it easier.

No - You will have to right click on your text in the rolling box and then I think its rolling options and possibly there you type in the duration of the credits.

I have not used V6 for a long time 6.5 title designer is completely different

All the best,

Ed

i got it worked out.. thanks everyone..

I also use the DV500 and Premiere. I really can offer no ideas as to why this happened, but I think I CAN offer a solution to let you use that captured footage.

If the full clips open in Windows Media Player, They will probably open just fine in Quicktime Player as well. You will need Quicktime Player Pro ($30 license from Apple) in order to export.

Open the smallest of the clips, verify that it opens properly, then export from Quicktime Pro as an Quicktime DV codec movie. Make certain that your field and audio settings are identical to your original clip. You might also try breaking up the clip so that no individual file is over 2 (or is it 1?)GB (I've forgotten all the GB limitations with NT,2000, NTFS, Maxtor device drivers, Premiere presets - oh, my head hurts!). Verify that Premiere will now recognize the file using Quicktime DV project presets. You can edit as normal, but maybe without the DV500 live monitor preview.

I'm pretty sure that QT Pro will not re-render the DV data, but will just file-copy it, changing the Pinnacle.avi wrapper to a QT .mov wrapper for the same DV data. That way, it should be a relatively quick conversion. You might even be able to use QT Pro to then convert the files BACK to Pinnacle .avi's. Only problem here is you will have to free room on your HD in order to process the 9 and 12GB monster files.

Scott,

Not a bad idea to try and convert the clips and see whether Premiere will accept it that way. I won't purcahse Quicktime pro yet, I think I have something that might do the job.
NTFS format does not have a limit on file size, so it should not matter - I'm running XP Pro SP1

Cheers,

Ed

Scott - I think you hit the nail on the head!!!

I had an extremely old version of Studio DV - After it stopped complaining that it was not Win XP compliant. I managed to get it running.

I opened up the smallest clip first and to my luck studio DV recognised it and enabled me to play, most importantly it enabled me to export out as an AVI DV which Premiere seemed to like.

That means that Premiere got a little confused while capturing the footage.

Cheers people,

Ed Smith

Well I'm coming into this topic late but, in case anyone else has the problem, I experienced this as well and all it took to fix it was to download the latest update from Adobe.

Although I wish I'd done it straight off as I first thought that the capture programs method of splitting it into clips was causing corrupt captures and I recaptured everything as one huge file for each tape.

Meaning too large to backup on dvd, which may well cause me a problem in the future...

Jay.

Jason, cheers for the comments - Glad that somebody else has had the same sort of problem.

Yu say that you updated Premiere, was that from V6-6.02. I use Premiere 6.5 and as far as I can see I can only wait until Pro comes out.

Thanks,

Ed

Oh okay, yep I was working with 6.0 when I updated so that means it may not have been the same problem if you are using 6.5.

Unless it was a specific fix that I downloaded but as far as I remember it wasn't, just a general update. The only thing that makes me say that is that I had a very similar problem with After Effects (I was using an even earlier version, the new one is on it's way!) and I remember seeing many people having the same problem with AE and Adobe saying it was fixed in the update, which it was. But I was the only person I could find there who was having the problem in Premiere also, which is why I had thought it was my capture method.

Not sure then if you are using 6.5. It's not like they would have removed a fix along the way.

Did you search the Adobe site to see if you could find any other cases of this? It's been a while since I've been there.

Jay.

Ok great info there.......Wat Im able to do now is..it seems ...that I can ..take svcd into dv architech..make chapter by throwing it on screen..and it burns and i can read it with power dv.....but when I use the encoder in prem..and all the dvd settings (stanard)........when I take that to architech ...and try to throw it on a chapter...the outline box turns red ..and it dont show on screen...in architech....im just downin TMPGEnc now to try it out
will get back with results ..thanks for the help ...Alan

sorry forgot Doh!@#!....also...I am useing 720x480 is NTSC DVD/ Video resolution not 720x420...this is wat will not throw onto DVD architech..screen.....

Can you please post the following information:

1. operating system you are using

2. hardware you are using [including any DV boards]

3. the EXACT error message [copy it letter by letter!]

4. what you have done to get to this error [what are you doing exactly in Premiere]

That should not be a problem you can actually "see". That could
only hurt performance.

Do you see these problems also when you just render the timeline
to a file and import that file?

eh?

Okay, let us walk down a list.

1) if you play back the 16:9 original footage that you recorded on the original tapes with the original camera does the TV see it as widescreen?

2) how did you playback your footage to your TV? On a DVD?

3) What kind of TV do you have?

Keep in mind that a 16:9 TV needs a SIGNAL to know it is a
16:9 stream. Both in MPEG2 encoding and DVD authoring you
need to specify that the footage is widescreen/anamorphic/16:9
so that the right flags are set and the DVD player knows that
the footage is anamorphic and emits the correct signal.

Also make sure if you have a widescreen TV that the DVD player
is correctly setup to know this [otherwise it will convert it to 4:3
with black bars].

Premiere Pro, late this month- AE6 available NOW!

Two questions:

1) what hardware are you using?

2) what operating system?

What do you mean that the workflow is slow?

You simply capture - The capture automatically appears in the bin - You then import this onto the timeline, edit - Export out

How slow is slow? Normally these things are quite hardware intensive.

Answer Robs questions, to begin with.

All the best,

Ed

I know what you mean. Preview performance is extremely slow in Premiere.

Use Vegas for faster editing.

I used to edit with Premiere w/ hardware support and have sinced switched to Vegas 4. Vegas is faster- even though I don't have hardware support for real-time transitions. The workflow is so much smoother and more logical. There's no rendering when you simply drop a clip in a timeline that doesn't conform to the NTSC DV AVI standard- Vegas views all files as just data. Plus the realtime previews work great- so long as you have a pretty fast processor.

Premiere Pro is supposed to be completly re-written and from what I've heard is very stable. A much needed attribute after the highly unstable Premiere offerings in the past. Then again stability isn't the question- it's speed. Premiere Pro is supposed to have real-time previews as well- time will tell how well they work. Adobe really has to pull all the stops with this one- the Premiere NLE has been dragging behind recently.

Try Vegas 4.0, it's awesome, I wouldn't trade it for anything. You can do previews without any rendering, but of course the framerate depends on your computer, and how many "effects" you have on the video and all that...

AE6 was, indeed, released this month. Looks great and FEELS great.

Premiere Pro should be available later this month, but I can't even purchase one because it's already out of stock!

Also heard that PPro is supporting 24p/a internally without the need for plugins. Great!

http://www.adobevideo.com/forum

My AE6 just arrived this morning. Standard, not pro however. First thing I did was flick to the back of the manual where it shows loads of cool effects labelled 'pro only'. Not to worry. I'm really looking forward to playing with this. AE is one of my favourite programs. I'm an awful George Lucas in that respect (get the shooting overwith and only then does the real fun begin).

Jay.

do you folks see premiere+ae as one product in the future?

rob+ed

-Tyan Tiger MPX w/dual AMD MP1800+
-1GB RAM
-40gb 10krpm WD raptor SATA HD
-21" monitor
-aiw 8500DV
-sony hi8 =)
-wxp sp1 (fresh install)
-prem 6.5
-ae 5.5pro

by slow i mean when i capture it is totally unusable. gotta use ati multimedia center 8.5 to capture mpg2 or avi. then when i import into prem it slows to a crawl. i just can't see how people work like that with so many clips each taking up quite a long time. it just feels so hanidcapped. i mean it's not even usable that type a thing. i can't see how you folx deal w/it.

like i said when playing with final cut it's just nearly silky smooth. *sigh*

I don't know anything about this product, but am curious as to what it brings to the table for an editor.

Say for wedding videos, what would be some of the specific features that AE provides that can boost the quality of my product?

Thanks,

Clarence

Huh dude? Something is seriously screwed up somewhere then. You system should have no problem doing anything in premiere, thats for sure.


My computer is only:

AMD Athlon 1GHZ
Some crappy no brand name motherboard
512MB PC133 SDRAM
40GB ATA100 5400rpm HDD
13.6GB ATA66 5400rpm HDD
ATI AIW 128 PRO 32MB
...etc etc, the usual

...and it has no trouble with working in premiere, atleast when I used premiere. It surely wasn't like your describing.

Either way something is screwed up. Do you have DMA mode enabled on your hard drive? If it's not enabled and is in PIO mode, or whatever, that can easally cause your computer to be extra super slow.

Look under control panel > system > hardware > device manager > IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers > Primary IDE Channel, and right click that and hit Properties > Advanced settings, and make sure they are set to "DMA if avalible".

The only thing I could see is some kind of problem with your disk drive, TSR programs (like anti-virus or viruses), or drivers (like firewire).

Even though you have a 40 gb drive, if it has not been defragged or is running loaded you might still have problems. Defragging in the middle of production is generally not recommended.

Drivers can cause other problems. You should check and make sure you have the latest ones.

TSR (Terminate and Stay Resident) programs can do all sorts of weird things. With Worm.Blaster out there is really good at hosing a system. If you do not have a anti-viral program it is probably worth while to scan your system.

Just an FYI when MS introduced W2K, the s/w normally starts the disk drive up in DMA mode.

<<<-- Originally posted by Ed Smith : And,

www.matrox.com/video

Go for the RTX 100 or above.

I've had no problems with my XL1 under Premiere 6 and 6.5

cheers,

Ed -->>>

Dear Ed,
What video card are you suing with your system? Are you satisfied with it?
I recently purchased an XL1, and am using Premiere 6.5 and Matrox RTX. I'm getting weird picture artifact on capture and playback, and think it may be a video card
problem. The card I'm presently using is actually unsupported by Matrox.


I welcome any input you may have.

Barb

Barb,

I currently use a Pinnacle DV500 capture card, although I will be soon buying the RTX 100, and Premiere Pro. The funny thing is that for my job I support editors who use Matrox hardware, but have not come across your problem.

Does the artifacts appear in the premiere preview window and/ or on a TV?

What happens if you create an AVI file and play though windows media player?

You should really have at least a G550 Matrox Graphics card, I believe that it uses a chip from it to run the hardware effectively.

Thanks,

Ed

What happens if you capture via the premiere capture window? Is still really slow.

I do not have this problem with mine.

Ed

Hi people, ive put this on the mac side too as thats what im using but there dont seem to b many mac/premiere users.

Ive managed to export to tape when using imovie.
i now have a completed timeline on Premiere. ive hooked up the dv canon camera and chosen 'export to tape'. i used to have a problem selecting this as it wasnt highlighted but sorted that out via 'device control'. but now, when i export, i get the audio but no visual. just black. can anyone help or hazard a guess why?

Dear ED,
The artifact occurs in the capture window
and in any premiere playback window, but not on a tv monitor.

I'm currently using an older vid card, a matrox millennium 3d flex I believe.

Haven't tried to export an avi ( or encode to a wmv) and play it through wmp yet. I'll try that now.

Thanks!
Barb

Do you get a picture in your camera when previewing from the timeline?

Is everything rendered?

Have you chosen the correct device control?

Answer these first then we can carry on.

All the best,

Ed

this is weird. it was rendered, it was the right device control but didnt work. i tried all day but just audio came thru. ive changed nothing but now its working? strange.

Look at my signature.

"Good things come to those who wait"

Well it certainly works here!!!

Did you turn the camera on before loading Premiere or after Premiere had opened?

Maybe your cable was a bit loose.

Glad its sorted,

Ed

I left the camera on the whole time, went for food, came back and had one go, not even sure y as i didnt alter anything. i guess the camera just got bored waiting around.

After Effects is mainly an effects and compositing application. So
it has more features to remove mattes, animate things, color
correct etc. I don't see much reason why you would need something
like that for wedding videos. But check the feature list out
for yourself. I think there is also a demo version available for
an older AE version so perhaps you can check that out as well.

It is normal that a system is slow/unresponsive DURING capture,
so if that is happening don't worry. You also say that it is slow
when working with the footage. Is this AVI footage or mpeg2?
Mpeg is known to be slow in most applications [since it is an
intra-frame based compression algorithm].

If you use mpeg2, try using something else. Otherwise it might
be wise to check out the demo of Vegas. Although it probably
won't work with your ati multimedia center...