Premiere Pro will not work with the RT2500 Matrox have not produced any drivers for it. However you can trade in your RT2500 and upgrade to RTX 100 with Premiere Pro (Suite or Pro edition).

You will need to upgrade your system to the recommended specs on Matrox website. Please take a look at this site: http://www.matrox.com/video/support/rtx100xtremepro/rec/home.cfm

The Price of upgrading to the RTX 100 is about the same price of purchasing Premiere on its own. Even if you don't use the RTX 100 you can still run Premiere in software only mode (with IEE 1394 card) - I personally think that that makes more sense...

Cheers,

You should definitely check out the compatibility information at the Matrox website:
http://www.matrox.com/video/support/rtx100xtremepro/rec/mb/home.cfm

You might also want to look at an Intel processor as they are generally faster at video tasks (and slower at games). They are faster at MPEG2 encoding with the Main Concept encoder. I'm not sure about Premiere render speeds.

RAM: On Intel chipsets, 2 or 4 sticks of the exact same model RAM (same capacity too) is the fastest configuration. It only makes a few percent difference though.


2x40gig seagate barracudas raided as a system drive
RAID0/1 might run into configuration issues (see the link above) on the ICH6 RAID controller according to the Matrox website.

Your video card should be fine unless you use a program that takes advantage of openGL acceleration. In that case, go for a workstation card optimized for openGL performance (nvidia quadro and ATI fire series). If you must go with a gaming-oriented card, go Nvidia (better dual monitor drivers, you can quasi-calibrate your monitor to NTSC bars and tone, better openGL performance).

2- Dual monitors: How are you spanning Premiere Pro across both monitors? ATI cards can't do it (bad drivers) unless you get the shareware program Ultramon. I recommend Ultramon anyways, as it gives you a second taskbar. You can hotkey a key like F1 to switch windows between both monitors. I use it daily and find it extremely useful when I have 20 windows open. On a single monitor setup this would be hard to juggle.

http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/

Thanks for the input guys. It is 1.5 and I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one this has happened to. It was driving me crazy wondering what I did. I will try this and I'll look for a way to get this to the folks at Adobe to see if we can get a correction. What a bug.

Jay

There are a couple of basic functionality bugs that exist in premiere pro. They don't affect the finished product but one example is the final keyframe in the effects window. Just wait till you encounter that one!

Otherwise, Premiere Pro has risen to the top of the nle choices among wintel users. But that's just my humble opinion....

You're scaring me!! What is the final keyframe issue? I gotta know.

It's no so bad ... just a pain in the butt.

When you click on an element in the timeline to activate the effect controls window, you now have an incredible amount of precision over the motion, opacity etc. But try to view the last keyframe of the item in the monitor window when you drag the control slider in the effect controls window all the way to the right. The image of the element you are adjusting disappears!!!

Give it a try and report back if this occurs to you also...

I'll try it and try to remember that so I don't freak out. Thanks.

Hey Jimmy, do you know of anyplace to get a cd with free movie background music. I remember a guy told me his background music for his movie and trailer (which was really great moody music) was something he ordered for free from somewhere. I'd love to know where to find that kind of stuff. Thank you.

Jay

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!! Went to adobe forum and found others had same issue. Adobe replied to someone with:

1. Make effects a separate window (drag from program window if layered there).
2. Enlarge the effects window to a longer size and save your program as it is.
3. Close the program and reopen it.

Now it should be a scroll up/down in the window.

*This is what Jimmy described I believe, but I thought I would describe what to do by making the window bigger.

Resizing/resampling/rescaling end results largely depends on the
algorithms being used and in what way you are looking at the
end result (you still haven't answered that one).

Don't expect the preview screen to look good for example. Render
out to full DV or uncompressed and watch that on a TV for example.

<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : Resizing/resampling/rescaling end results largely depends on the
algorithms being used and in what way you are looking at the
end result (you still haven't answered that one).

Don't expect the preview screen to look good for example. Render
out to full DV or uncompressed and watch that on a TV for example. -->>>

thanks

the problem was mostly jagged diagonal outline on high contrast areas. the reason why i din't notice the problem was because i was looking at the preview monitor only at the time (it was only for the purpose of rushes). when i previewed on tv it was obvious.

after i tried it again, the problem disappeared.

It sounds like you have a field issue indeed. Did you shoot in a
progressive/frame mode or in interlaced? Make SURE your project
settings match the mode you shot in!!! Also make SURE your
export settings use the same mode AS WELL!!!!

Wow ... thanks for the tip in the effects window.

As for my music, I rely on an extensive library of royalty free tracks from 3 suppliers.
Commercial music only enters in when I get a license from the owner/publisher.

Thanks Guys,

Am now seriously considering buying the "Matrox RT.X100 Xtreme Pro Suite Editing Workstation " from Planet DV - its about £2000, but, if I upgrade my existing PC (which is now 4 years old), and then buy the matrix card (RT.1000 for £786) to go with it, I'll probably end up spending more than that anyway.

Time to consult the friendly bank manager..... :-(

Richard.

Excuse this if it is a stupid question, but what exactly does the Matrox RTX.10's and RTX.100's cards actually do.

I have just brought a canon Xm2, and am now after the software to go with it.
Ive pretty much settled on premiere pro 1.5, and, after searching through various posts, have been thinking about purchasing the Matrox RTX.100, which comes with the 3 adobe products bundled.

But, Im now wondering whether its worth just buying premiere pro on its own (as im not sure whether i really need audition and encore), and wonder whether it would work fine with just my firewire card (I know I will need to upgrade some parts of my PC).

So, am just wondering what the matrox cards actually do...... ?

Any advice/comments, always welcome :-)

Cheers,
Richard.

The Matrox RT.X100 will give you true real-time editing and output to DV (and a TV monitor) for certain effects, like dissolves, titles, color correction, soft focus filter, Pleasantville effect (the image is black and white with only one color showing), and others. Of course, there are limitations to the amount of effects that can be applied and played back in real-time.

The RT.X100 can also capture or output MPEG-2 in real-time for burning to DVD in a program like Adobe Encore DVD. As well, the RT.X100 accelerates rendering to RealMedia and Windows Media formats.

It also gives you the ability to view your work on a TV monitor directly from within Adobe Photoshop, Adobe After Effects, and Adobe Encore DVD.

If you're thinking of a software/hardware combo, you should also check out the Canopus DVStorm2. I had my reasons for going with the Matrox, but your preferences may be different.

Canopus DVStorm 2
http://www.canopus.us/US/products/DVStorm2_Pro/pm_dvstorm_2_pro+.asp

Matrox RT.X100
http://www.matrox.com/video/products/rtx100xtremepro/home.cfm

If you do go with a software/hardware combo, make sure you follow the editing card manufacturer's recommended computer system specs exactly.

Rob,
The footage is interlaced. When tried de interlace option, the jitter transformed to a "mess" between lines.
Did you flip/rotate footage CLEAN in Premiere6?
Was it on tape as 29.976 (30)?
All the setting match here.

Many Thanks Christopher,

Answers my question !!

Cheers,
Richard.

Where can I get the royalty free music and who are the 3 suppliers? Thank you.

Google will get you your results. There are several to choose from. Nightingale, turner etc....

Check my audio page for a long list of reliable vendors.

http://www.stevengotz.com/premiere

Brent,

I think I may have the solution for you. I didn't check the adobe forums because I don't have a log in but it took me a day to figure it out on my own. Ok, here it is.


****
-Open up Premiere and click on Panasonic 24P editing mode.
-Press F5 to open up the capture dialogue box.
-Click on the settings Tab.
-Go down to device control area and press options.
-Click on Device Brand. Use the up and down arrows and highlight Panasonic.
-Click on device type and again use the arrows to select AG-DVX100P.
(for some reason, the drop down menus don't work so you have to use your keyboard)
-Time code should remain drop code and standard is NTSC or PAL.
-Capture the footage, edit, and export it. Should be perfect!
****

I captured the 24P footage via a sony deck and the XL2 as well and both had these terrible interlacing lines across the screen every 3rd frame when I export. Changing the device setting to DVX100P solved the whole thing. It's because PP doesn't have the profile settings for the XL2 in the program. Already checked. DVX is the next closest thing and it works perfectly. Good luck and let me know if that helped!

Namaste all you wonderful people! I need some advice, I am in the process of taking 1 year of printed cartoon strips and preparing an animated short. I've done a screen test in PPRO and it looks pretty good (albiet only 10 seconds worth)

see this clip-->
http://www.extreme-nepal.com/images/WM91024test.wmv

and I am wondering if there is a better way before I go furhter. All my 2d black&white source is in PSD layers. My plan is to just use that, lay down a set in ppro, place actors on that, and use motion/effects to give it that old-fashioned cartoon effect. Some scenes require live motion set with animated characters on top of that (in 2d). My question really is: is PPRO the tool to use? I know how to use ppro somewhat and i use in conjuction with AE6.5, no problems there with the help of many kind souls here. thanks again!

Well, what do you all think? I've looked into Poser5 to animate the characters, but I don't think I want a 3d look, although that may be an easier way to animate a character...dunno. looks pretty complex. For samples of my source see my website:

http://www.extreme-nepal.com/bonus.htm

ps. little nagging questions so far:
1. optimize stills or not?
2. does resolution matter in the source? it's all set up for print now. understood it needs to be scaled to 720x576 with safe borders but does dpi mean anything here?
3. i plan to just go to tape for broadcast here but if i want to use adobe media encoder is there anything about this type of source that i need to be aware of? i've noticed strange things in testing with QT. WM9 looks good but file size is insane.

THANKS!!!
jigs

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/DivXToDVD.htm

DivXToDVD is a 1 click solution to convert your movie files to a compatible DVD playable on your home DVD player. DivxToDVD supports most popular format such DivX, Xvid, Mov, Vob, Mpeg, Mpeg4, avi, wmv, dv and stream format.

Hope this helps.

In general, I'm getting all confused with plug-ins. I have both PPRO1.5 and AE6.5. I have plugins that say they support both, but most installers don't have any instructions on where to put them. Let's take Trapcode Shine as an example. Wonderful plugin. The installer did the trick, but placed the plug in so it shows up under effects/video effects/trapcode. makes sense. but how do i install that for AE? or can i?

Now take the cycore set of CC plugins. Those are scattered all over the place in the effects menu. I can't remember what I did to install there.

Now, my biggest mystery is the Twixtor 4.1 plugins, which when i install, just asks for a directory, starting at the root c. no matter where i put them in the plugin directory structure of AE or PPRO, they dont show up in any effects menus.

I feel rather stupid. Did I miss something somewhere about plug-installations in the help or FAQs? I've looked. In fact, the forum/support site for revisionFX never mentions the word installation. I wonder why?

Thanks all!!
jigs

i am doing this a lot now with XLS1 footage, and i started just saving the AVI with original project settings (recode not checked) and bringing into Nero 6.6.0.6 NeroVision Express 3. If you have less than 1 hour of AVI and use the highest quality settings, things look pretty much the same (very little loss in quality). If you have more than 1 hour (and are using 4gig media), things get tricky but even then, if you have less than say 2 hours, using a bit rate of 5073kbit/s 2pass vbr (nero calls that standard play) things look pretty good - but sports scenes and other fast motions get whacky. After that things get bad. I keep reading about dvd-9, which is double layer, but not yet available here in nepal:). That would help out recording longer movies at the highest quality.

I have never gotton ppro export to DVD to work well - so many options! I wonder if anyone else has? I guess I don't understand it. Does it intergrate somehow with encore? I don't see why you would want to write a DVD without a menu, and creating a menu in Premiere would be nuts yes? Unless it's somehow assembled later? but the codec used: MainConcept MPEG Video seems to be pretty good....and I think that's what really matters.

jigs


good luck!

You would probably do better using Macromedia Director to do animation. I say this, because Director has "tweening", which fills in multiple frames between keyframes for you. I haven't used PPro, so I can't say whether it has a tween feature.

I would also drop the framerate to 15 fps, which is very smooth animation. It will save you tons of time.

Once you have the animation done, you can export it as aN AVI OR MOV, which you can finish up the audio synching using PPro.

I'm having problems w/ the Track Matte Keying in Premiere Pro using a matte created in Photoshop 7. In Photoshop I create a white-filled shape w/ a black background and then import it to Premiere (as a .tif file). But the keying doesn't seem to work. When I create a matte using Premiere's titling tool it works ok.

Is there something I'm doing wrong in Photoshop, like a format probem? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

<<<-- Originally posted by Keith Forman : You would probably do better using Macromedia Director to do animation. I say this, because Director has "tweening", which fills in multiple frames between keyframes for you. I haven't used PPro, so I can't say whether it has a tween feature.

I would also drop the framerate to 15 fps, which is very smooth animation. It will save you tons of time.

Once you have the animation done, you can export it as aN AVI OR MOV, which you can finish up the audio synching using PPro. -->>>

Thanks Captain for that! I used Director in another lifetime for CD rom production, that was before the internet (oh no not that scripting language). I am sure it's improved over the last decade or so and surprised it's still around.

Hmmm. the project plan is to mix live action video street scenes with animated 2d characters on top. I guess I will have to play around with getting one track to be a different frame rate then the 25fps footage in the background. The speed duration setting?

Not sure about photoshop integration with Director, but perhaps its there and supports import of layers like ppro does. that's a must to save time. I've used tweening in imageready but only ever made .gif output...gotta check to see if it will save as avi...i don't think it does...

thanks again.
jigs

PPro will let you move, scale, rotate and fade your 2d images, and layer them above and below each other. AE6 does the same thing with more options and control - for example you can add motion blur and set the virtual shutter angle for that blur. I think more people would use AE6 than PPro for what I think you are suggesting.

Neither program tweens in the traditional animation sense - you'd want to be looking at a vector-based package like flash, moho or toonboom studio for that (I think all 3 let you specify a video clip as the background, though I may be wrong about that).

15 (or 12.5) frames per second would be sensible if you are doing frame-by-frame animation, in which case you may want to use PPro or AE to slow your live video down to the same speed. But if you are just moving and scaling bitmaps, stick to normal framerate.

1. optimize stills or not?

Do you mean in terms of color (e.g. web pallate) or in terms of resolution?

2. does resolution matter in the source?

If you are aiming for SD broadcast or DVD then as you know you want to end up at 720x576 (for PAL). So your source needs to be at least that size. And maybe somewhat bigger if you are going to move it across the viewing field. But not HUGE .... importing very large images from raw scans will work but will slow rendering down and possibly may give you memory problems. Ignore dpi and just figure out what the actual pixel dimensions of each image are.

3. i plan to just go to tape for broadcast here but if i want to use adobe media encoder is there anything about this type of source that i need to be aware of?

Still images are often so high-res that horizontal lines are essentially only 1 pixel wide at 720x576 - this leads to flickering when they are broadcast onto an interlaced monitor. The usual solution is to deliberately blur the image slightly. Premier has an anti-flicker option which I assume does much the same thing. DV magazine has a excellent couple of articles about using stills in NLEs that was online about a year ago. May still be there.

>WM9 looks good but file size is insane.

File size for WM9, QT and mpeg is determined by both image size (720x576?) and degree of compression. 720x576 is usually destined for playback on a standalone player from a CD or DVD in which case large filesize may be acceptable. For web distribution, it is rare to see video even for broadband to be presented at much above 320X240, with considerable compression.... in which case the filesize will be much smaller.

Hello Donald and welcome aboard DVInfo.net!

When you saying keying doesn't work can you please elaborate
on what you are exactly trying to do? The matte in titling doesn't
need keying since it has an alpha (transparancy) channel that
your TIF does not have (unless you where to upgrade the black
to transparancy in Photoshop).

Make sure you tell the Premiere keyer that it should key out the
black color (default is probably blue or green).

Hey Rob,

Your hint about the titling having an alpha transparency was it. I created the matte in Photoshop w/ an alpha channel. When I imported it into Premiere it worked! Thanks a lot for the help! And the welcome to dvinfo. A great site.

I am totally lost trying to use this effect.
Does anyone have an explaination or link to
info on how to manipulate this effect?

Hello! I am trying to fix a slideshow a co-worker made a few months ago. I just need to edit out a few pictures and put a simple zoom in effect on a few of them. The problem is that he didn't leave the source files. And so I just had to rip the DVD and use those files. So I have been able to pull it into Adobe Premier (I am not all that experienced) and have been able to razor out the pics that were not wanted and put in new ones. But here is where the problem comes in. I do that, but when I render or output, it puts the old images in, or flashes them really quick. I cant find it in the timeline where these images are, but they keeping showing up. Also, it makes it when images are being zoomed in on (ones I haven't edited) they skip, it goes in, and then skips back a few frames it looks like, and continues in. I have been banging my head agains the wall on this and I have still not been able to find a solutions! Any help would be SO appreciated I might just run over there and give you a hug:D Jk But yeah, it would be a life saver if someone could help me understand what is going on!

Using Premier Pro

Apologies for a quick half-answer that may be wrong, but I'm about ready to hit the rack...will check back tomorrow.

You can rename clips and duplicate instances of clips in the Project Window without the actual file name of the source clip changing. Do a (Right Click) >> Properties... on one of the misbehaving "new" files in the Project Window and see if its path actually points the OLD file that renders. If so, you've managed -- as I've obviously also done before -- to simply tell PPro to call the old, original clip by the name of the new clip you meant to have in its place.

If that's it, the simplest thing to do is simply unlink media and re-link to the new, correct clip. BTW, for the purposes of this problem, starting with still pictures doesn't matter because PPro is repeating the still frame to produce video anyway -- so it is still functionally a clip as far as the timeline is concerned.

If that's not it, will try again tomorrow. For tonight, G'nite!

Hi dan,

I can't seem to find that shatter effecst in Premiere Pro?

What version of premiere are you using? Is it a 3rd party plug in? What sort of effect are you trying to make?

Thanks,

Dan,

If you're referring to the third party Boris FX effect, I'm not personally familiar, but here's the link to the instruction manual:

http://www.borisfx.com/download_files/Red3GLUserGuideVolI.pdf

It is discussed around pp 79-82 as printed (pdf pp 58-62).

I assume you are talking about the Shatter effect in After Effects.

What is it you want to know?

You need to make sure the force and radius are sufficient to shatter the image.

This is my first try at using Shatter:

http://www.premiereuser.com/videos/T3AS_Shatter.wmv

I recently shot some footage for a project using my university's oh-so-shiny DVX100 in 24p mode. I'm hoping to edit it at home on my old Premiere 6.0 system. The DV tape plays back alright in my DV953, but I presume if I capture it without getting the settings right in Premiere, it'll wind up back in 30i. Can I set up Premiere 6.0 to take 24p, or will I have to resort to fighting for time on the FCP rigs at school?

I need to make a jump from my current 1.4 P4 due to crashing problems with Studio 9.

Dell currently has a good deal on Premier. Vegas seems like a good choice too.

Thinking about a dual Xeon but I've also heard that P4 hyper threaded might be just as good. Getting only one processor now and updating later seems to be a bit more trouble than it would be worth.

Any comments before I spend lots of money. I wonder if I will be greatly inconvenienced by getting the cheaper graphice card?

Dell Precision Workstation 470 Intel® Xeon™ Processor 3.00GHz, 2MB L2 Cache 4D302 [221-7724] 1
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Memory 1GB, DDR2 SDRAM Memory, 400MHz, ECC (2 DIMMS) 1GE2 [310-4985] 3

Graphic Cards 128MB PCIe x16 ATI FireGL V3100, Dual VGA or DVI + VGA Capable ATI128 [320-3958] 6
Boot Hard Drive 80GB SATA, 7200 RPM Hard Drive with DataBurst Cache™ without RAID 80SAT [341-1138] 8

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I believe I need help. I have been trying to apply "Alpha Glow Effect" in PPRO 1.5 However I can't see the effect take place. I have searched the forums. Tried key framing, Adjusting the brightness and Glow, Copying the same clip to the track above and applying 50% opacity but nothing works. I know it's something simple that I'm not doing. Could someone walk me through it. Thank you in advance.

Harry

1- With dual processor systems, you are paying significantly more money for very same performance gains. This depends highly on the program though.
Final Cut / Mac takes advantage of dual processors well. ~70% improvement in render times.
Premiere I don't know.
Vegas it's like 3%. With Vegas you can have two copies running, in which case you can render at full speed with one copy and edit away in another copy. It's generally not worth it to get a dual processor system for Vegas.

2- If you do go with Premiere, look into a hardware acceleration card like the Matrox RTX100. You should also check motherboard compatibility if getting that card.

3- Graphics card: Some compositing applications like After Effects and Combustion can take advantage of openGL acceleration from the graphics card. If you don't do that then you can get away with the cheapest dual monitor card available. Nvidia cards are better than ATI cards for video editing when you're dealing with the gaming/normal cards (as opposed to the workstation cards, like the nvidia quadro and ati fire lines).

4- Sound card: A sound card like the M-audio revolution will give you better quality analog-digital converters at about the same price. The drivers should also be less bloated.

5- If you want a cheaper system, look into custom computer builders like local computer shops or online vendors like monarchcomputers.com. Monarch for example charges street prices for parts (I think their prices are pretty good), they charge a small fee for building your computer ($50/75), and you may not need to pay tax depending on where you live in the US.

Dell's upgrades are quite overpriced. Their base systems can be good deals and they make their profit off the upgrades. If getting a mid-highend system, you might want to look at specialized vendors for video editing like DVLine and Promax (I have absolutely no experience with those two companies and don't necessarily recommend them).

6- You might also want to look into other NLEs like Vegas and Final Cut. Basically ask yourself what you need to do and then figure out which system is right for you. Things you might want to look at:
stability
ease of use
formats handled (would you need HDV, uncompressed, or HD support?)
advanced editing things needed- compositing, audio post, DVD authoring + encoding package, etc.
speed (related to above)
workflow for the kinds of projects you do
multicam
total cost (Premiere, Final Cut, and Vegas systems are roughly the same cost. Vegas is probably cheaper, but that would be neglible if you are using the system for a living.)

7- Budget for lots of hard drive space and dual monitors. Mac and Dell charge you more for more hard drive space than installing your own hard drives or a custom build would.

Hi Ryan,

I'm using PPro 1.5 and AE 6.5 so my memories of Premiere 6 are pretty dim. You can capture and edit your 24pN and 24pA footage with Premiere 6, but you'll have to use 60i settings throughout. You must export at 60i; 24p isn't available and 30p would mix fields from different frames, making it look really bad.

So you could edit and export a 60i file at home, then at school bring it into FCP or another 24p aware program such as After Effects or PPro 1.5, make sure the pull-down cadence is correct, and re-export. That'll cost you an extra render generation, but if time is short, that'll save some of it.

I don't know if this will help you, but when Premiere starts, you have the option to customize the settings. I tried using Quicktime setting, and could set it for 24 fps. I didn't play around too much, but you can try it.

On a side note, why are you doing this in 24p?

I don't have Premiere, but could this be an effect that applies a
glow to the ALPHA channel of an image? If so you need to have
this channel (which video does not have!).

Rob
I'm thinking that yes it does apply the effect to the alpha channel. I could be wrong. All the other effects that I have tried I can see the effect take place. Not this one.

I hadn't used this particular effect before, but you piqued my interest. Clips do have an alpha channel within PPro; if they didn't have their own upon import, PPro makes sure that they do anyway...clip opacity, keying, garbage mattes and all that kind of stuff depends on the ability to use the alpha channel to adjust opacity.

Turns out that if you haven't placed a key or matte on the clip first to give the alpha channel some edges, the Alpha Glow has nothing to make glow. According to the help:

The Alpha Glow effect adds color around the edges of a masked alpha channel. You can have a single color either fade out or change to a second color as it moves away from the edge.

My quick little test went like this: I took a green screen test clip of my daughter and applied a color key to it so the green area turned black (representing transparency). Then I applied the Alpha Glow effect and voila! Just like that, a colored glow appeared around her that I could adjust at whim in the Alpha Glow settings.

One GOTCHA in it though...if you want to adjust the color with the little eyedropper-shaped Color Picker tool, you have to DRAG it to the area within the Monitor Window where you want to select the color from, not just click to select the tool and then click in the window.

Although I haven't used this effect so far, I suddenly think I could find uses for it. Thanks for pointing it out!

Thank you for responding.
Yes, I was asking about After Effects that I use with Prem Pro.

After posting the question I stumbled across the answer to my problem. I didn't know that you have to change
"wireframe+force" to "rendered" to correctly see what the effect is doing.

Now I'm having a great time playing with it!

Steven, your examples are great! Thanks for sharing them.

Dan

Hey guys,

I am looking for an effect for creating a title that looks and sounds like you are typing onto the page over video image.

I am on a pc working with Premier 6.5 - Has anyone seen this effect on associated plug ins?

head to adobe.com for the free update which covers HDV templates, and capturing... havent had much of a chance to check it out though.. but its there.. released today in fact..