<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : Have you enabled the "remove/reduce interlace flicker" option? -->>>

The only program I have seen that option is DV Film. Where is it in Premeire Pro?

Besides, I doubt that is the problem. When I play it in Quicktime it looks normal. It only happens when I play it in WM Player.

I don't know where it is, since I'm not using Premiere anymore. I'm
certain it is there though.

You should've added this extra information to your original post!

Anyways, it sounds like you need to check the settings in the
windows encoder/template. Are you by any chance rendering out
as interlaced or at a different framerate?

I figured how many frames off I was (21) and imported the new AVI in a new project. I inserted 21 frames of black at the beginning and exported the file as a DV-AVI. Using this file in the original project, the problem was solved.

Lesson learned, always use an inpoint when capturing.

Now I have questions about the DV-AVI format.
I find that if I exported it as an uncompressed AVI the file gets huge and quickly used up valuable HD space. So I exported it as DV-AVI, it rendered much quicker and created a file size very similar to the original. Now I'm wondering if was recompressed at the cost of image quality.

Remove Flicker is under the clip menu bar option. Select the clip, then select the Clip menu item, then I think its field options or something like that... flicker removal should be under there.

Working off of memory since I dont have premeire available at the moment.

Hi Greg,

It may actually be a WMP problem with handling widescreen 24fps, rather than PPro's...although the jury is still out. I'm wondering if PPro might flag the widescreen files in a peculiar way that WMP doesn't like, but that is entirely speculation/wondering. Here's a thread where several of us scratched our head about this:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37100

Anyone who's learned anything further on this 24p stuff is MOST welcome to chime in!

BTW, hearty welcome to DVinfo...I see that you've been quite active during your first week as a member!

Yes, DV uses a lossy compression algorithm (5:1 ratio) which throws
away information that you (hopefully) cannot see (depending on
scene complexity as well).

Hi all, I was able to export to dvd the first three times probably with the dolby encoder and now it wont export even without the dolby. It always stops about 3/4 of the way through with an encoding problem or a write failure. This is without the dolby, just stereo. What do you think? Thanks TAG

Hi Terry,

If you're using XP SP2 and getting a "failed to return video frame" message when using the Adobe Media Encoder to render or transcode, there is a simple workaround:

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330380.html

Solution #1 worked for me. If that isn't it, could you please describe what happens in a little more detail?

Cheers,

When I burn a AVI to a DVD from the Premiere Pro timeline it does not look as good when played on my TV, via DVD player.
On my computer monitor play back from AVI , the video image looks great . Does encoding to DVD really cause that much loss of quality in the finished DVD.
I am using a Canon GL2 camera.
Any information would be helpful
Thank you

Please take a look and the time to thoroughly read through the
following thread (and the threads it links to):

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36443

In a nutshell:

1) it depends on your settings (VBR is better than CBR, higher bitrates are better)

2) it depends on the quality of your encoder (although the Cinemacraft encoder that PPro uses is decent to good, it isn't excellent)

Read that thread etc. for more information!

Thanks Joshua, I will try that next time.

I was finally able to fix the problem by exporting directy to mpg using the adobe media encoder.

Hello all.

Was just wondering if anyone knew what version of adobe premier is bundled with the Matrox RTX.10 / RTX.100 ?

These seem to be very good deals (An editing card, adobe premier, encore, & audigy), for about £ 500, and was wondering if there is any catch ??

Also, are these Matrox cards graphics cards, or are they dedicated editing cards (or is this one in the same). Reason I ask is that I already have a good graphics card, and was wondering whether getting a Matrox card was really necessary, or ahould I just stick to purchasing the 3 adobe products seperately.

Many Thanks,
Richard.

Hi Richard,

You only live 20mins away from me... Welcome to DVI!

It should be the full and latest version of Premiere Pro, which is Version 1.5. However your best bet is give Matrox a ring or e-mail.

If it was me I would go for the RTX 100, you get so much more real-time capability than the RTX 10. These cards are dedicated editing cards, you still need a graphics card for it to work.

Personally I would buy the RTX 100 as it costs pretty much the same price of buying Premiere software only. Even if you decide not to use The RTX 100 card you still should be able to use Premiere in software only. If you do decide to use the RTX 100 make sure that you system meets the recommended system spec from Matrox's web site.

Hope this helps,

Ed

As Ed says make sure your system meets the required spec, I will go one further and say make sure you build a new system up using just the recommended hardware that Matrox suggest on their site.
I have been using the RTX 100 with pprem 1.5 and encore 1.0 and it is really good but you have to ensure you download the updated patches from Matrox' site.
It takes some setting up initially and everynow and then will crash, but hey, thats windows! For best results only use the system for editing video. Have a look on the MaTROX user site, they have a forum where a lot of your questions will be answered.

I'm editing on Adobe Premiere 6. When I crop or mess with any aspect of my 60 interlaced footage I capture it automatically converts it to 30 fps without me asking. Is there anything I can do to prevent this. It stays 60i when I just edit it. What am I doing wrong. I have a project due soon and I need assistance because I have to the footage to fit 16x9.

In Vegas, I would look at the project properties. I have no idea about Preemeer.

Hi James,

Been a while since I used version 6, but I'll do my best. I'm not quite understanding what you're seeing...is this to do with the appearance of exported footage, or actually what you are seeing in the monitor window of Premiere?

Backing up to the beginning...all DV is actually 60i; in the DV world, 30fps really just means the two fields of a frame were taken at exactly the same time, rather than at 1/60th of a second interval -- thus eliminating interlace artifact. Premiere doesn't show the individual fields in the monitor window, so both interlaced fields of a frame will appear together and depending on the motion in the frame, might or might not show visible interlace "combing." All the better editing programs have settings that allow the user to minimize interlace artifacts, such as "de-interlace" or "frame blend."

I'm going to guess that you have a de-interlace setting wrong somewhere in the mix and whenever you do something that causes Premiere to render so you can preview the result, the de-interlace is applied, giving you the impression of 30p in the monitor window.

Take a look through your project and clip settings and see if a setting may be wrong. If this idea doesn't seem to be getting you anywhere, post back with some more details.

Hi
I can recommend the RT.X100, I bought it mainly for the real time export to DVD compliant files, the rest is a bonus.
BTW I use Encore 1.1 & 1.5, no problem.


Regards.

Peter.

how come adobe premiere 6.5 processes my video soo slow? i first made this video in windows movie maker (lol). then i added some black bars likes its 16:9. but then when i export it it goes so slow? and my video is all skippy when i play it back but when i export videos from movie maker it procces it fast?

Update:
Me & My big mouth.
Both Encore 1.1 & 1.5 have suddendly decided that trying to render motion menu`s will crash the program. go figure!

Thats what I get for bragging!


Peter.

I checked and all the de-interlaced options are off. As I said before. When I just cut footage and not change the aspect ratio, the 60i stays the same. It's when I change the aspect ratio that it starts playing back at 30fps. Any more suggestions you offer please?

It still isn't clear to me what causes you to think the footage is changed from 60i to 30p. What are you seeing on screen, and at what point in the editing process, that is telling you the footage has been interpreted from 60i to 30p?

If I understand, you're capturing 4:3, 60i footage (30fps, interlaced) and when you crop it in the timeline / monitor window of a 16:9 project so that it fills the full width, the program gives you some indication that it has de-interlaced the footage to true 30p?

Please list your capture or import settings, project settings, and export settings. Anyone else around who is using Premiere 6 and can help?

Okay it does this whether it's NTSC full screen or widescreen.

It's going at the usual frame rate of 29.97.

Microsoft DV compression.

Depth - Millions.

0.9 pixel DV ratio.

Import DV/IEEE 1394 capture.

Lastly it doesn't do this just the preview on the monitor, it exports it this way as well. It only does it when cropped though. When uncropped it stays 60i.

Plus in the clip settings section it's the only one saying "unknown"
in the RENDER section. Every other column is identical. It says FOR OPTIMAL PERFORMANCE CAPTURE,PROJECT, AND CLIP SETTINGS SHOULD BE IDENTICAL.

Hi James
What aspect was the project set up as?
I'm not an expert with Premiere, but I thought that the aspect ratio is set when you first start a new project. Once you start editing there is no way to change the aspect ratio?
Also a DV NTSC widescreen project of 720x480 frame size at 16x9 the pixel aspect ratio should be 1.2?

It happens if the aspect ratio is 1.2 or 0.9.

I've been up all night trying to fix this but to no avail. It's really strange though it only does this when I crop the image. I'm cropping a 4:3 to a 16:9 so as to fit and it does this. Is there a problem with my software. Was Premiere having a problem with this? I'm getting frustrated. I'd like to thank everyone for being so helpful though. I appreciate the assistance and I would appreciate anymore suggestions.

As said in the first reply I really think this has something to do with the fields adjustment. IS there any way to adjust the fields as I crop so as to keep the 60i.

I decided this time to edit a project on my neglected 6.5 for the fun of it.

Everything was working fine until I opened my saved the project the next day and the timeline layer of adobe 6.5 wouldn't display making it impossible to continue with the project.

All I see in the backgroung was the win xp bliss screen, the effect control and the transition/video/audio control box.

What can I do to get back the lost screen layer. Already I've tried unistalling/reinstalling adobe 6.5. It wouldn't work,

I'm at a loss James. I've searched the Adobe forums for similar problems and found none, and dusted off Premiere 6.5 to do a little test with a couple of MS DV AVI clips, and no problems appear. I placed 2 MS DV AVI clips on the timeline, placed a cross dissolve, used the crop effect on the first clip, and did Timeline >> Render Work Area. Then I took a screenshot.

In Project Settings >> General... I have Editing Mode set to DV Playback.

Here's a link to the page on my web site where I have placed a screenshot of my Project Settings Viewer for this test:

http://www.geosynchrony.com/scratchpad.htm

Notice that the clip field order shows as "unknown" as it was upon import into the project...which I guess makes sense, since there's no way for Premiere to inherently "know" which field is intended to be first by the camera (even though NTSC DV is always SUPPOSED to be lower field first, there's no guarantee that the particular file is ordered that way). But for capture, Project, and Export, they all show "Lower Field First."

So I'm sorry that unless some new info comes to light, I'm unable to help you solve this problem. It doesn't seem to be a known bug in the software, but FWIW, PPro 1.5 is light years better.

Okay, so I shot a scene in a small theatre at my highschool against a greenscreen using a sennheiser mke300 for picking up audio. The scene is supposed to take place outside, but the audio still sounds like it was shot in a room, what effects can I apply to the audio to make it sound right, Im using premiere pro.

Update 2
Just as a matter of interest I got motion menus back in Encore 1.1 by uninstalling Ulead DVD movie factory 3 disc creator.
Apparently the problem in Encore 1.5 is well known & no fix apparent at the moment, although I was able to do it before.

Regards.


Peter.

Ideally you'd want to try the remove echo/reverb as there is no echo outdoors (other than an early initial reflection off the ground). You're not going to be able to remove echo in post though.

A noise gate can remove echo in the quiet parts when no one's talking, but when they are talking you will hear the echo/reverb. It won't really help your problem.

Other options:
1- Add outdoor ambience and wind rumble.

2- If you were shooting this, mic very close and hang up sound absorption to change the ratio of signal noise to echo/reverb noise. You could also choose a less echo-y room too, which is along the same lines of adding sound absorption.

A lav microphone would be the best option for putting the mic the closest, unless the talent can wear a headset mic.

3- ADR/loop it. Takes a lot of time.

4- Shoot it outside??? (probably not practical I'm guessing, because of the green screen lighting issues.)

That's all I can think of.

James if you can't get the aspect ratio correct, is it possible for you to take your project as is to a local production house and have it converted to the aspect ratio that you require? You need to find someone who has a peice of hardware that is known as an ARC. An ARC can convert footage to any aspect that you require, 16x9, 14x9, pillarbox, letterbox etc, etc.

Or, if you're disposed to upgrade, PPro 1.5 handles multiple aspect ratios easily. IMHO, it is REALLY worth the upgrade.

Sorry I'm not able to crack the code for you. But if there's some new info to work with, will be happy to try again.

If it's any consolation Peter, I have have had to unload all my Ulea stuff. One day it was no problem then suddenly it was. ULEAD removed and everything works again!

I really appreciate everyones helps and attempts. I may have figured out why I can't. Me thinks my software is limited. I'm using version 6.0 LE. Is that why? I am getting pro 1.5 in a week or two.

That totally depends on a lot of things:

- your project settings
- your input footage
- the effects you applied (only black bars?)
- the final format you encoding/exporting to

If you go out to MPEG-2 or a high quality Windows Media codec
it will take a lot of time to render. The more effects you add, the
more it will get. This is just the nature of the beast.

You didn't tell us which fileformat and codec you exported to, so
it is impossible to tell why the skipping is happening, but:

- somewhere your settings where wrong (usually in the project settings of during the export) in regards to framerates
- you exported to a bad codec
- your player is corrupt or has some other problem

For example, a web encode template might have 15 frames per
second instead of the usual 30, that might look choppy. Or if you
exported to uncompressed your harddisk can't keep up....

If it is for the fun I would simply load the project into your current
edit system (I assume PPro). Saves a lot of trouble.

Otherwise, there is a way to reset Premiere settings etc. You need
to hold down certain keys while starting Premiere. I think it was
the shift key or the shift and ctrl key (the ones on the left side of
the keyboard). Not 100% sure on that though...

outside.. well th e world is literally open to you..

i perioodically go out and record sounds for films i work audio on.. from clubss/bars to traffic, to rainforests.. i then use these as fills..
create an ambience with the sounds of your outside scene by going to a real life environment similar to your scene and record the audio.. then mix wisely grasshopper :)

Hi I recently installed premiere pro 1.5. I use a matrox Xtreme pro card, so i had to uninstall that and reinstall it after i upgraded from premiere pro v1 to 1.5. only problem is that i can't install the matrox software. As soon as the installation starts, i get a message saying that i need to have premiere pro v1 or higher....and i have prem pro 1.5. Also now premiere comes up with a message that it cannot play audio and so it won't even start up. I didnt have this problem before and the previous version of premiere pro worked fine with my matrox card...for the most part.

I have reinstalled prem pro 1.5 a couple of times already and i don't know if i can get anymore activation numbers from Adobe. so i'm hoping i dont have to re-install it again.

Any suggestions?

i have a p4 pc, an intel D865PERL mother board, 2gig memory, 3.2 ghz processor.

i'd appreciate all the help. thanks.

Don't know for a fact, but I'll bet the "LE" is it...they probably disabled some features, like perhaps widescreen handling in the "Lite" version. I've definitely seen that in other software packages as well, like the DVDit Lite that was bundled with my DVD writer...no widescreen handling at all.

None of this will be a problem with PPro 1.5 (or Vegas, just to give equal time to those who prefer that!)

To reset preferences in 6.5 it is Shift + Ctrl while opening the program.

Do you get the timeline on newly created projects?
Have you gone to the Windows menu in premiere and selected the timeline option. Try changing the workspace.

You could also try starting a new project and then importing the problem project into the new one, to see if that helps?

Cheers,

Try the following...

Make sure you download and install Xtools version 6122 which is only compatible with PPro 1.5, then there's the hotfix 2 which Matrox just released.

So to make things a bit easier here are the steps I would do to make sure everything installs fine...

1-uninstall all versions of Premeire (to avoid confusion)
2-Installed only PPro 1.5
3-install Xtools 6122
4-install Hotfix 2
5-download and install a couple of new effects Matrox reelased (assuming you are running the Matrox RT.X100)

Enjoy :)

Regards,
Elie

Anyone purchased the Mastering Adobe Premiere Pro dvd on ebay or elsewhere? I'm wondering if it even compares to the 150 dollar jobs out there. Anyone know?

Jay

1. What are all the prefered settings for film transfer? (Deinterlace, Flicker Removal, etc.)

2. 30i or 60i? (I want it to look closer to film)

3. When a film shot on DV is brought to a home medium like DVD or Video (28 Days Later, Chuck and Buck, Open Water), is it transferred from the film reel at 24fps or the 30/60i DV.

* Note I'm shooting with the good ole VX1000 and a 2000. Both aren't progressive.

I'd really appreciate if someone let me know for my upcoming project

If you were to transfer it to film, you wouldn't export it. Just lay it off to tape.
If your wanting to add a film look, try generts Sapphire film effect.
Sapphires are by far my favorite plugin package.
add a frame of strobe to help the motion a bit. If you wanna take the time, cinewave and cinemotion for AE are both great tools for this.

I currently have premiere 6 and will soon be buying pro 1.5 and upgrading my pc to amd xp3200

My question is - is it fine to install premiere 6 and then the UPGRADE to 1.5 or am i better to purchase the pro 1.5 FULL version?

Are there any differences between the two and where would you suggest buying it from?

Many thanx

The upgrade would likely be the full version, rather than a patch.

As far as having both versions on the same drive, I can't see any reason to do this, except for older filters that might be left out of the newer version. I can't see why you can't, but it might be best with one or the other.

You would be best off using a clean install to avoid conflicts.

It is always nicer/safer to do a clean install of the latest software, but if the price is significantly less for getting Prem 6.5 + PPro 1.5 upgrade than just getting full 1.5, I'd say go ahead.

I just realized recently that I forgot to uninstall 6.5 on one of my computers when I upgraded to PPro 1.0. Also subsequently upgraded 1.0 to 1.5 with no issues. In the process of trying to help a fellow DVinfo member, I tried the old leftoever 6.5 version I noticed that I had in my start menu, and it worked just fine.

And I gotta say, as clunky as 6.5 felt compared to PPro 1.5, I have NO problem complying with the license agreement to uninstall the old version! But, at least on my system, they did both co-exist just fine.

I just upgraded from 6.5 to Pro 1.5 and I can verify what Keith said -- the Pro 1.5 Upgrade is a *Full* version. You *do not* have to have a previous version installed to upgrade -- just pop in the Pro 1.5 disc and it will ask you for the valid serial number for your previous version. Enter in your 6.0/6.5 serial number and Pro will install fine. It's always better to do a clean install this way instead of trying to upgrade on top of an existing installation.

Very true on the clean install. dll files and other shared resources can cause conflicts.
BUT! Some previous projects might have difficulty opening in PPro. So far my machine has been just fine with both versions onboard. I often need to open projects in old premiere due to the third party titles that are not supported in PPro.