Best Way to Get a DVD VOB File into an AVI that PPro can edit? I have nero recode, but that only goes to .mp4. Then I have QT Pro that goes from mp4 to avi (its running now, very slow). Isn't there a better way? Thanks! is River Past Video Cleaner PRo something better to use? Suggestions needed...thanks!
jigs

update, tried River Past, converted VOB to WMV using a specific profile. Tried to edit in PPRO and export the movie using the same profile in Adobe Encoder, but I don't think they are the same across programs. Frustrating that Endoder. I just need settings to play the result full screen as WMV and look halfway decent. I am not concerned with all of those audiences! I just have one: file played off CD inside powerpoint. Arg....

The VOB file is just an MPEG2 file so try copying one of the the VOB files from the DVD to your hard disk and renaming it with an .MPG extension. Then go to your PPro project an import the MPG file into a bin and drop it onto the timeline. It should play fine- you can then make your cuts and export the timeline as an AVI or other format in the normal way.
This works fine with 6.5, but as MPEG2 doesn't store every frame, it may be difficult to do frame-accurate stuff. You may need to try all the VOB files as I haven't worked out a way of deciphering which VOB file relates to which chapter on the DVD - Anyone?
Hope this helps!

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/videogetb.html

Follow this guide. It makes it so you can edit accurately with mpeg2 footage using avisynth.

I currently run Prem 6.5 with a DVStorm2 card on a dedicated editing PC for corporate and show work. It works very well and does most things I use in realtime - essential for workflow. I use After Effects and Photoshop as well, so the video preview plugins for the card are really useful. So my question(!), What extra features will Pro give me that will make upgrading worthwhile?

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/videogetb.html

Follow this guide. It makes it so you can edit accurately with mpeg2 footage using avisynth.


Follow the guide? Sure, give me a week to get thru the install...(that had to be the most complex one ever)...anyway, this is like following the yellow brick road! Seriously, I appreciate that but I am looking for something that can convert a vob into an editable clip in less than a two-week learning curve. All that to get around lousy directshow? wow. anyway, it's all on my list of things to learn before i die.
:) jigs

The VOB file is just an MPEG2 file so try copying one of the the VOB files from the DVD to your hard disk and renaming it with an .MPG extension. Then go to your PPro project an import the MPG file into a bin and drop it onto the timeline. It should play fine- you can then make your cuts and export the timeline as an AVI or other format in the normal way.
This works fine with 6.5, but as MPEG2 doesn't store every frame, it may be difficult to do frame-accurate stuff. You may need to try all the VOB files as I haven't worked out a way of deciphering which VOB file relates to which chapter on the DVD - Anyone?
Hope this helps!

i know which vob i need (i just play each one in MS player), and its the onlyclip, and this sounds simple...giving it a try now! Thanks!!!!
jigs

i know which vob i need (i just play each one in MS player), and its the onlyclip, and this sounds simple...giving it a try now! Thanks!!!!
jigs

well, I just did that and while it's a nifty trick, the audio track is dead. Fortunatly i saved one my previous attempts using River Past (VOB to WMV) and subbed that audio track (this is just a 4 minute music video). While the source is great in PPro, anything that comes out of Adobe Media Encoder is crap. I can't figure out any optimal settings and there are thousands of variations. So I guess learning Avisynth might be faster then trying all of these....
jigs

It pops up when I try to open a project file. Also, since it's been popping up, there are times when after I render, the program will just close as I'm watching what I've rendered.

Graham,

I have been a 6.5 and Matrox RT2500 user for some time now and likewise looked at upgrading to Pro. I downloaded the demo and used it for a couple of days and although I liked it, I determined that 6.5, After Effects and Vixen for color correction does 99% of what I need to do very effectively. So for me the upgrade didn't make sense. At some point I will upgrade when I move up to shooting DVCPRO 50 but thats at least 2 years away. I would suggest trying the PRO demo.

Regards,

Mark

From the file name in the error message it appears to be encountering the error condition when reading the cut list.

What version are you using? Click the About command in Premiere and you should see a release number.

You can try to reset the Premiere Preferences by holding the Ctrl and Shift keys when launching Premiere. Then create a new project and see if this project has any problems. If this works fine, then you can try to export your cutlist from the problem project and import it into your new project. I use Premiere Pro so 'm not sure the way this was done in Premiere (maybe it’s the same way).

Have you posted this problem on the Adobe support website?

Have you tried any of the earlier versions of this project. Premiere saves copies of the project file. Look in the directory of this project and under the Premiere folder, you will see a folder named Premiere Auto-Save. Open that and you should see previous versions. Open some of the earlier files and see if they also had the problem. If not, find the latest version that worked fine and start editing off that one. But first save a new copy of that version.

I am getting ready to export a film from premiere and must have unwittingly hit a button where my audio tracks have completely disappeared. Anyone know the fix?

Rick

Hi Mark
Tried out the demo a week or two ago and feel the same as you. 6.5 + hardware provides a very stable solution. I think I'll probably wait until the market settles down over HD before upgrading.

Hi Jigs
Don't use Adobe media encoder myself - I tend to render everying out as a DV AVI file and then use Discreet's Media Cleaner XL to produce the web video (on another PC top improve workflow!) Might be worth looking at a demo...
I guess the audio problem you had when importing the VOB file could be to do with because the soundtrack was 5.1?

I've played with the Pro demo, and I just can't get used to things being so different from v.6 that I'm using now. The one that gave me the most crap was duplicating an audio channel from an avi file. v.6 you right click on the audio layer and select duplicate and whatever side you want. Pro, I had to do all sorts of work arounds, reverting the stereo file to 2 mono files, and then copying one into the timeline. What a pain. I guess until I sit down and force myself to get used to the interface I'll stick with 6.

I guess PPRO just can't do this. I managed to get my edit done USING NERO VISION EXPRESS 3! Then exporting a type2 DV, THEN using WINDOWS media Encoder 9. (I just had to cut the opening/closing credits off my video). But why have I payed all those $$$ for PPRO when it can't even make a decent wmv file? (Okay, I payed for a great editor for pure DV). But still, I am kinda ticked off about the hassle this project was, and I am wondering if I should just go to Avid for all future work. Not that I know Avid will do any better, but I am just pissed. The WMV profiles in Adobe Media Encoder do not match the ones in WME 9. So what good is that?

And working with WMVs is a problem in itself. Gspot does not read the files (ASF) so how can one even start to create a matching PPRO project? Perhaps there is another tool to figure out which profile was used to create the wmv?

WARNING: if you follow this guide you will wreck your editing bay:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guid...videogetb.html
that's if you have a simple machine like mine (Sony TR3 with tons of external harddrives). That software package is so bad that the only good thing about it was that the uninstaller took it ALL off without damage. The guide itself is a rambling in video technology and the tools themselves are unstable and unintelligible to the normal video editor.

The River Past product had the right idea, but it's execution is lame. So...I am still thinking of doing another project for a friend that takes lot's of bits from DVDs and edits them together, then exports a wmf for use on a CD or pendrive, but I have no way doing the edits in my favorite editor du jour: PPRO 1.5.

Another idea I had was to just export the whole project out to tape, recapture it, save as type2 DV (ppro avi using some decent codec), then try Windows Media Encoder 9 on that. but man o man.....
cheers, jigs

Hi Jigs
Don't use Adobe media encoder myself - I tend to render everying out as a DV AVI file and then use Discreet's Media Cleaner XL to produce the web video (on another PC top improve workflow!) Might be worth looking at a demo...
I guess the audio problem you had when importing the VOB file could be to do with because the soundtrack was 5.1?

Graham, thanks. I'll download that and report back. The audio problem was strange. it was not 5.1, just PCM as far as I could tell.

So I have to worry about which compression setting to use 24, NTSC, or PAL with MS DV Avi Export from PPRO? I guess I'll run that result thru WME9 and see what happens....
cheers!
jigs

I am trying to export an edited sequence that runs an hour and three minutes. Around minute 58, the tape just goes to black. I am using 83 minute dv tape. This has happened thrice and I'm in desperate need for a fix! Please help.

Rick

Hi Rick,

Have you rendered the whole movie? If so, provided you have DV playback set, you should be able to press record on your deck player/ camcorder and press space bar to play the timeline. And then stop on the deck/ camcorder and stop the timeline once the movie has finished playing out.

You could try rendering the whole movie as an DV AVI file and then opening a new project, importing the newly created movie and try exporting that way.

Do you have any software running in the background? Anti virus, spyware detection etc?

How much sapce do you have left on your harddrives?


Hope this helps,

Ed

Hi Rick,

Do you still hear audio on your speakers? Have the tracks physically disappeared from the timeline window?

Just a few further questions...

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to fake fisheye or similar effect in post production.

Thanks,

Daniël

Hi Jacob
I have the same feeling - it's not that I'm a Luddite, but unless there's a good reason to upgrade, why do it. The conforming audio "feature" of PPro seems to really slow things down. How often have you needed to cut a soundtrack at sample level. I just pre-prepare my audio using Cool Edit befor import. Any Ppro users that can give us some reasons to upgrade?

I think you can use the lens distortion effect in premiere to get what you want

If you mean that the waveforms do not appear it can be 2 things:

- if you're looking at audio from a nested comp, you need to render audio
- if you're looking directly at audio from an imported file, then maybe the conformed audio files are gone?

To achieve the wide screen look, I use the clip effect and the motion anchor point.

If the clip is centered good I use clip top = 30 and clip bottom = 30.

If the clip is no centered good for wide screen, I use the clip effect with clip bottom = 60 pixels and clip top = 0 pixels. Then I use motion effect and set the anchor point = 180. This shifts the clip up 60 pixels and centers the black bars.

This all looks good on the preview and the final movie. Unless I choose to deinterlace the video during the video export movie. Then the clips no longer line up. And they appear to be clipping 15 pixels instead of the 30.

Basically for some reason, deinterlacing the video during the export, adjust the effect of clip pixels and anchors pixels. Any ideas why? Any work around?

For doing any kind of effects like that, it may be in your better interest to deinterlace the footage before editing it. Also never use Premiere's deinterlacing. I know for a fact how bad 6.0's is, and I haven't heard anything good with the latest versions, so I figure it hasn't improved at all since.

Also Premiere's clip filter isn't pixel specific. You might want to just use it to get an "idea" of how your widescreen would look, but when you render from premiere, turn the filter off and do the cropping in post-editing to where you have more control. You don't have to do this however, it's just a suggestion.

WARNING: if you follow this guide you will wreck your editing bay:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guid...videogetb.html
that's if you have a simple machine like mine (Sony TR3 with tons of external harddrives). That software package is so bad that the only good thing about it was that the uninstaller took it ALL off without damage. The guide itself is a rambling in video technology and the tools themselves are unstable and unintelligible to the normal video editor.



As far as I know, NO ONE has ever had their computer or any editing station damaged, or harmed anyway by the AMVapp installation or the programs that are installed by it. Of course it would of been better to of suggested not to download it cause I forgot that several unnecessary programs come with it that do not concern editing mpeg2 footage.

All you need is: AVIsynth, DGMPEGDec (aka DVD2AVI in earlier versions), DGDecode.dll, and the AVIsynth Plugin for Premiere (Premiere won't read AVS files without it). AVIsynth version 2.5x or higher may crash older machines on older OS's, suggest digging up v 2.0 if you still can.

The guide linked to you is a longwinded one, but is a crash course into DVD footage for someone who would know little to nothing about the subject. You only need to tip toe through jargon to get to the instructional parts.

However if you still don't like it that's up to you. This is the only method that I know of to directly edit mpeg2 footage in Premiere, and has proven emmensly useful and efficient even for those editing on pc's as slow as 500mhz, sometimes (though rarely these days) worse.

I think the cable might be the culprit ... try a known good 6 footer... the easy trouble shoot is to attempt again with your xl1 and the deck... As to why only the XL2 allows for a clean transfer is odd ... it should also be suspect if the cable was too long / defective...

i'm still waiting for new cable (my other ones are too short to reach the deck). but during my last capture session, we had some success with the xl1, but with repeated trials per clip using batch capture.

It could be the fact that camera head has shifted it's position during day three. (Also, one should unfortunately never use the cleaning tape before tapeclog problems arise since they actually "grind" the heads.)

If you record something again, just as a test, are the results the same in the Jvc deck (bad)? If so, I would make a digital backup copy of the day 3 material (fw from the XL2 to the jvc deck), and send the camera in for a check up. Remember to make the copy BEFORE you send it in, if you're unlucky your "malfunctioning" XL2 could be the only player that can actually play the tape correctly.

We (I'm working parttime as a reseller) have unfortunately seen this problem before with both XL1's and XL2's. And a customer made the misstake in repairing the cam BEFORE making backups, rendering about 20 important tapes useless.

/Max

thanks for the backup advice, you might have saved my life...

so if the head shifts, is the shifting the same with record and playback, which explains why the camera can play its own recording cleanly?

also, the ticks seem to have a pattern- intermittent around 5 secs, pixellizing in the same place, and ticking audio only on the left channel...

Hi

I get following error message when finally export to DVD.

Could not complete the last command because: video picture size larger than buffer (DVDErr,-1)PGC Info: name=Movie 1, ref=Apgc, time=583.75

Do u know what this means and how to get rid of this. I have used Panasonic MX 300 (DV, 3CCD camera)to record the musical prog. Total edited video clip+1hr 52minutes. I have added some sponsors advertisements in title pages, after adjuting the size of the advertisements. Also I have added about 10 video transitions to the movis. Awaiting yr advice. Thanks

Pushpa de silva

pushpas@hotmail.com

What would you use for deinterlacing? Is there any good premiere pluggins for this?

What would you use for deinterlacing? Is there any good premiere pluggins for this?

I'm sure there are some good premiere plugins, I just do no know of any other than maybe Magic Bullet, but some others on these boards should know. Try doing a search on deinterlacing and see if any older topics have the answer. If you're familiar with AVIsynth, there's some filters by Donald Graft http://neuron2.net/mine.html that deinterlace quite well. I use the old 2.0 Decomb filters which work well enough.

In order to do slow mo in ppro, you have to deinterlace and frame blend. Both of these has too much resolution loss for me.

I have used some virtual dub filters that have done a good job. I have also tried the "slow mo" programs and those also do a good job.

I am really looking for a ppro plugin that I can just drop onto my clip and experience the same results. Has anyone seen or used such a plugin?

What about a plugin that simply converts 60i footage to 60p footage. In otherwords, it takes the 60 interlaced fields and converts them to 60 full frames. When played at normal rates this would be slow motion of 50%. The tool would still have to interpolate half of each frame, but at least the frame blend step could be avoided. If there is such a tool, you would not have to do frame blending if you wanted 50% speed. Again, I have seen this type of tool for virtual dub.

I captured my footage with adobe premier pro 1.5. The footage was shot widescreen with the Panasonic DVX-100a. I captured with a sony trv-950. When I import the captured footage and begin to cut, the footage shrinks itself down and leave large black bars all around it.

Heres and example of what I'm talking about
http://www.verbalstreet.com/images/boxy.jpg

If anyone could help it would be greatly appreaciated.

Can anyone tell me what is the best way to make a bad reception clip. What I mean is that I want create the effect of a television that has not cable so it starts with that snow like picture and slowly gains reception of the image. But while gaining reception the clip is still distorted if someone is playing with the antenna then clears up at the end.

Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow.. I never knew that.. lol!

It does look better de-interlaced and frame blended.. yeah the rendering sucks.. I use the RT.X100 so if I don't mess with the field options it's realtime slow or fast..

Best Way to Get a DVD VOB File into an AVI that PPro can edit? I have nero recode, but that only goes to .mp4. Then I have QT Pro that goes from mp4 to avi (its running now, very slow). Isn't there a better way? Thanks! is River Past Video Cleaner PRo something better to use? Suggestions needed...thanks!
jigs

update, tried River Past, converted VOB to WMV using a specific profile. Tried to edit in PPRO and export the movie using the same profile in Adobe Encoder, but I don't think they are the same across programs. Frustrating that Endoder. I just need settings to play the result full screen as WMV and look halfway decent. I am not concerned with all of those audiences! I just have one: file played off CD inside powerpoint. Arg....

I just copy the .VOB to the hard drive rename it to whatever.mpeg and import the mpeg. It takes a while sometimes at least for me I think it's the audio portion stalling it up.. but anyways after that I export it back out as an .AVI and then bring it back in as an .AVI (not slow then). Audio works also..

So I'm thinking about the new Sony HVR-Z1U as my next camera purchase. (Using big DSR-300 DVCAM now.) I don't plan on doing HDV editing for awhile (not one single request as of yet) however I am intrigued by the native 16:9 capture of the HDV cameras.
If I record 16:9 SD in the camera, can I use my current DSR-30 deck to play back the tapes for capture? I do not want to put additional headwear on the camera.
Does the image get recorded to the DV tape in a way that the DSR-30 (DVCAM only w/DV playback capabilities) can read it?
Thanks - Ray

Does it also look like that when you export? Check over some of your project settings to see if something is amiss.

Did you check to make sure the settings are not a PAL. I shoot in NTSC and one I got black borders on my clips, but my settings were to set to PAL. Once I changed them to NTSC the picture was fine..

If you record in SD, you'll be able to play it back on any DV deck or camera.
Since you have the Z1 and you may choose to record in DVCAM, then the choices are less, though you seem to be covered there...

Robin

Does it also look like that when you export? Check over some of your project settings to see if something is amiss.

Yes, it exports the same way. When I watch in full screen mode, there is about an inch or two of black around the edge of the screen with my footage in the middle.


I'm working in NTSC. When I first started the project, I picked the panasonic 24p preset to work in.

Actually, I think I figured out my problem. When I export, I usually export for widescreen. When I export for 4:3 it works.

the dvx100 doesnt shoot in true 16x9, it just adds bars to the top and bottom of a 4:3 image. so edit it all in a 4:3 project and that should solve your problem just fine, unless you want to stretch the footage out to fit 16x9... you will lose quality though.

Hi Pushpa,

Can you tell us what software/ version you are using?

What happens if you only burn a samll propotion of teh project to DVD, do you still get the same error?

What spec is your PC? What settings are you using to export to DVD?

Has the DVD reached it max capicity?

Have you been able to export to DVD before, using the same steps?

Cheers,

Hey guys,

I'm editing a wedding for an old employer and the second camera is really back lit. It's a nice shot, indoors, looking down the aisle at the bride and groom but behind them is three large windows. Is there a way to bring up the foreground with out blowing out the windows. (they is a nice view out the windows). I don't think I can just matte the windows out cause they are in front of them. But Premiere has to have some filter telling the program to lift all dark images, right?

I'm on premiere 6.0 but I do have AF 6.0 as well. I don't have any other plug ins, just what was out of the box.

Thanks for any help guys & gals.

Just wondered if it does or does not background render... NOT for preview but real render.. I can't find it and this really bugs me.. thanks

Hey guys,

I'm editing a wedding for an old employer and the second camera is really back lit. It's a nice shot, indoors, looking down the aisle at the bride and groom but behind them is three large windows. Is there a way to bring up the foreground with out blowing out the windows. (they is a nice view out the windows). I don't think I can just matte the windows out cause they are in front of them. But Premiere has to have some filter telling the program to lift all dark images, right?

I'm on premiere 6.0 but I do have AF 6.0 as well. I don't have any other plug ins, just what was out of the box.

Thanks for any help guys & gals.

You should be able to auto-contrast the image and see what happens, if the information is there (recorded correctly) should give you what you want. You might have to tweak the image a little to get it right.

Let us know how you do.
Miguel

I captured my footage with adobe premier pro 1.5. The footage was shot widescreen with the Panasonic DVX-100a. I captured with a sony trv-950. When I import the captured footage and begin to cut, the footage shrinks itself down and leave large black bars all around it.

Heres and example of what I'm talking about
http://www.verbalstreet.com/images/boxy.jpg

If anyone could help it would be greatly appreaciated.

under project settings in premier pro, there is a check box for maintain project aspect ratio, if you're working in 16:9 make sure it's checked to maintain that ratio, same goes for 4:3, I use it to make sure that my stills import correctly into projects but this might do what you needed.

The shadow/highlite filter is the best way to fix this. I recently saved some outdoor footage using this filter that had trees heavily backlit in the background behind my subjects whose faces and bodies looked too dark overall in the dappled shadows they were standing in. It worked great to brighten up the actors while at the same time actually bringing more detail out of the foliage behind them.

Brian,

You can also use the Levels filter, lowering the master gamma adjustment to bring up the shadows. The highlights should gently roll up but not clip. There is a limit to how much you can adjust this before you start to reveal nasty DV artifacts.

Josh