Thanks for your reply Ed, yeah I had heard there was some kind of filter that will make your video appear similar to the 24p "film" look, but I haven't seen it anywhere. I will just keep using the color correction and balance plug ins.
Thanks again and Take care.

anyone know of a way to preview a 5.1 mix in premiere or audition with a 5.1 home theater reciever?

i have a premiere pro 1.5 and audition 1.5
soundblaster audigy 2 platinum optical in/out, spdif in/out.
sony reciever with digital coaxial in, and optical in.
windows XP pro
1.7ghz
1gb ram

I hope someone can correct me, but as far as I can tell you can't do it through the digital ports as you've described. THAT would be sweet, but I've tried and died on that; either the sound card won't put PCM out at more than stereo, or consumer receivers can't decode more than stereo PCM -- not sure which, but I think it is the first one. The other possibility would be for the computer to convert the multi-channel PCM audio from within the software to Digital Dolby 5.1 for output that of course the receiver could decode and play, but I think we'd need special hardware to do that.

You CAN hook up 5.1 as analog using 3 mini-stereo to RCA cables from your Audigy to the analog inputs of the receiver...not as clean but it works.

i'm using DVD LAB pro to compile a dvd project, and it requires mpg2-dvd format.
i would like to know what is the best setting for me to export mpg2-dvd in adobe premiere 1.5 media encoder. Which settings do i need to tinker for the best possible quality, etc.

thanx guys

I hate to say it, but I doubted Pete. So I tried it with my Logitech Z5500.

The 3 mini stereo analog cables, that I usually use when I'm doing my surround mix, do work out of Vegas (I'm sure Premiere would be the same). I hooked up my coax to the Audigy2 output and my surround disappeared. However, when I play my AC-3 encoded DVD using PowerDVD, the coax output does produce surround audio. The surround audio needs to be compressed to be output digitally. I checked the Audigy documentation and it indirectly confirms this fact.

So to make a long story short - Pete rules! (and I learned something new).

p.s. - the analog output sounds quite good. My Sony amp does have analog Dolby 5.1 inputs. Maybe yours does.

Anyone know how I could just chop the first 40 seconds off the file and leave the rest the same?

if you need to retain the original mpeg2 format, then the best option is to probably use the software at www.womble.com ...check out the trial download... i think that it will take vob's/ac3 directly off of dvd, and let you chop out sections, then export without recompressing... it's a great tool.

Thanks David, I appreciate the link. I downloaded CineForm yesterday and have been able to capture in HDlink, edit in Premiere, then export to tape with HDlink (3 minute clip) with no apparent issues with the same laptop I posted about above.

I will do some more archiving tasks with this to get a feel for how this setup will perform, but for now it looks like it might be more cost effective to go this route than to buy a new PC.

You can get some ideas off of my article on matching cameras:
http://www.glennchan.info/matching/matching.htm

Unfortunately, I don't think Premiere Pro has secondary color correction.

As far as getting the 24p look, you can de-interlace 60i to 30p. Virtualdub has smart de-interlace filters which help preserve resolution.
Then just shoot 30p on the XL2.

Or, you can convert 60i to 24p. There are no free plug-ins, but Vegas and a bunch of other programs do a good job of that conversion.

Thanks David, I appreciate the link. I downloaded CineForm yesterday and have been able to capture in HDlink, edit in Premiere, then export to tape with HDlink (3 minute clip) with no apparent issues with the same laptop I posted about above.

I will do some more archving tasks with this to get a feel for how this setup will perform, but for now it looks like it might be more cost effective to go this route than to buy a new PC.

Cost effective - maybe...

Resource efficient - unlikely!

If you do any HDV project of half reasonable length in time terms - like say a 30 to 45 min. piece, then your laptop Hard disk is gonna be crying out for a bullet in it's platters!!

The biggest advantage you're going to find in a desktop, is the luxury of fast and large hard disk RAID arrays. Don't worry about the RAM side of things...

Besides, what are you gonna dump your HDV material too once you've captured/edited/re-encoded?

At some point you'll need the desktop, even if it's just to offload tasks from your laptop - you'll end up appreciating having the extra option!!

I went to an Adobe seminar, and they were showing off the new features in Pro. One of them, was an eyedropper type tool, that would change this clip to match that clip. Or was that Photoshop? I'm still using Premiere 6.something, so it really doesn't do me any good either way.

I don't have 1.5 Media Encoder, so I'm not sure of the settings and options, but I'm gonna take a stretch.

Make sure the basics are right.

Such as Framesize is 720x480, or 720x567 depending on the format

Make sure you have the correct AR (Aspect Ratio) flag, be it 16:9 (Widescreen "Anamorphic") or 4:3 (Full Screen, or Widescreen "Letterboxed").

Your Rate control mode (how the bitrate is handled) is up to you. Preferably a Constant Quality (CQ) or 2 Pass Method would be your best choices, just make sure your max bitrate stays at and/or doesn't go over 8000kbps, unless you are stressed for space on the dvd, then lower it if necessary. If you are going for a lower bitrate, a 2 Pass Variable Bitrate Method may be the better choice.

If a VBV Buffer Size option is available, just make it 224kb.

Profile and Level should be MP@ML (Main Profile @ Main Level).

Video Formate either be NTSC or PAL (x480 for NTSC, x567 for PAL).

YUV format should be 4:2:0, if I'm wrong on this setting please correct me. I've been using it for a few years and haven't seen anything wrong.

If the option of DC Component is available, set it as high as it can. What I use goes as high as 10bits.

Same for Motion Search Precision if you have that option. The higher the better.

For audio, 384kbps at 48000mhz.

For the more finer details like GOP structers and Quantize Matrix or anything else is somewhat greek to me, so unless there is some kind of preset for those, I'd just leave them be.

Hope this helps.

Helloo, if anyone can help me, i will be extremely grateful. I have been toiling over this for days and cannot figure this out. I'm making a simple kaliedescope by cropping an image so that its just a corner [cropping 50% right and 50% top for example] and then copying the chunk of footage that i've cropped and pasting three copies below it. Then i do a vertical flip on one copy, a horizontal on the next, and a horizontal and vertical on the last. In my preview window, this creates a perfect kaliedescope, but when i export it, there are two glaring problems that are COMPLETELY invisible when looking at the rendered movie in adobe. Problem 1 is that some scenes contain a thin black line right through the centre. problem 2 is that all of the sections that were flipped have been visibly degraded in quality. I tried exporting to tape, and the same thing occurred. Pleeeeeeeeeease help!!

It may be the Crop. I still use Premiere 6.0, so I dunno if it's changed any, but when you use the "crop" filter, it crops and zooms. Meaning what you take out, the remaining footage with take up the rest of the screen. This will cause your footage to be pixilated and stretched. "Clip" if the later versions still have it, is basically cropping without the zooming, meaning what's cut out is cut out and it leaves it as that.

Also, where is this black line occuring? If you could please, make a screencap of this and post the picture. You can use www.imageshack.us as an image host if you don't have one.

Are you trying to do this with images?? or Video??

Image - you can export the frames from Premiere and put them all together in Photoshop. Make all your effects adjustments, the canvas should be 720 x 480 and import the psd back to Premiere.

Video - way to complicated for Premiere. You can try After Effect for that.

Hope that helps.

I'm curious to know if anyone is using the Smartsound plugin for PPro.

I want to know the similarities between the plugin and the full version.

Specifically, I created this musical soundtrack for a client that was timed to the video presentation. Well the client decided to add additional footage that incrase the time of the video.

I don't want to add a loop to stretch out to the added time and it will take a lot of time to recreate the soundtrack and add new elements for the additional time.

Hi Stephen,

I just shot/edited a cooking show pilot called "Dish to Dish" using the smart sound plug-in w/ p pro 1.5. Very fast workflow New-Smartsound-Select music-Select variation(calm, fast, aggressive, ect)-Select duration-save.

John

which reciever do you have? i dont believe mine has 5.1 input...

Hello Everybody,

I just recently upgraded to premiere pro from a pinnacle program. So I have taken a big leap. One big question I have is that I am trying to pull stills in from photoshop and I cannot drop it to the right size without losing part of the image. Any hints for the Adobe beginner?

Sorry for the basic question, if it has been addressed somewhere else, just point me to the right thread but my previous searches were not that successful.

Thanks,

Joe

Hi Joe,
Welcome to the Adobe world :-). To export a frame from your timeline.

File > Export > Frame

...pull stills in from photoshop and I cannot drop it to the right size without losing part of the image. Any hints for the Adobe beginner?
1. Select the still on the Timeline and go to the Effect Controls Window
2. Twirl down Motion and adjust the Scale on your image
3. Repeat step 1&2 on all stills if nessesary

Thats one way to do it, still by still. There are some other ways if you have a lot of stills on your Timeline.

If you work a lot with stills a valuable opinion can be found in Project > Project Settings > General. Check Scale clips to project dimensions when adding to sequence. This setting has no effect if the stills already are added to your Sequence, it must be checked before you add the stills to your Sequence.

Over and out!

/Roger

The good part about that is that you have headroom to zoom in/out or pan around. Having the extra pixels is great and I can't imagine now using a still image that was exactly the size of the video (720x480) as it would be pretty boring in todays style of editing to just use a static shot. There are a lot of resources to view on doing this if you do searches on the "Ken Burns" effect (I believe that's who it is) Hope this helps.

i'm getting glitches when capturing, and it looks like this-

you can see them on the bars

http://www.geocities.com/moiseszee/frameerror.bmp

it's accompanied by ticks in audio.

i don't know how to troubleshoot this. would like some suggestions. thanks.

footage is shot on xl2, no problem when capturing with the xl2.

problem is when i capture using my jvc sr deck BUT it doesn't appear during capture (on the pc monitor and tv), only when playing back the captured file.

the jvc sr deck has been serviced and its tape head has been replaced. that didn't help.

signal flow:
jvc sr- firewire (25')- storm2pro- svhs(video) - tv monitor
jvc sr- firewire (25')- storm2pro- rca (audio)- mackie mixer- jbl lsr speakers

any help appreciated. thanks

All of the above is valid. A few warnings: Best to use .psd files not jpeg in PPro. Skippy / odd renderings can occur. Watchout for pixel dimensions in excess of 1500x2000. This can also cause unwanted hiccups in PPro in large projects. I didn't think 2 gigs of ram and a fast p4 with 256 Video from the approved list would cause problems ... just plan well and keep your frames tight.

Is this your first cature of 16x9 content with the deck? Perhaps the 1.2 par is an issue. Has the recording drum been serviced on the deck? Perhaps swap out the cable?

Just a few ideas...

Try another low end single chip camcorder for capture to see if the trouble can be duplicated...

Hey thanks for the help... the black line issue I figured out - in case your wondering, the preview screen was shrinking the image down to the point where it wasn't displaying all of the lines of pixels, i guess, and as a result i couldn't see that black line, which was essentially a gap between the images. I fixed it by setting the display to 100% rather than 'fit'

as far as the clip Vs. crop goes - thank you greatly. I havent tried this yet, but I hope it works... i'll do it as soon as I get home...

it is video, by the way, that I'm making these kaleidescopes from, and they appear to be working aside from the blurrines... strangely enough, it also only blurs it when doing a vertical flip. horizontal is fine... you know, come to think of it, the clip vs crop thing shouldn't work since its not the crop thats distorting it, its the flip. the first of the 4 images, the one that i dont flip in any way [ and the one that just has a horizontal flip] looks perfect...

any other suggestions anyone??

Hey Pete,

It was actually a hard drive problem. I am using quite a few external hard drives, and I was capturing to I and the video/audio was getting conformed to J drive. J drive was at capacity. So I moved around some files, created some space on J, loaded the project and let it sit for a couple hours. The audio turned up.

Rick

Is this your first cature of 16x9 content with the deck?
nope. been capturing 16X9 with this xl2 for about a year now, and the problem just came up lately. oddly enough, for this shoot, the clips which are bad/good seem to be divided by the day the clips were shot (day 1 ok, day 2 not ok, day 3 not ok). this is all in 1 dv tape. i remember cleaning the xl2 head before day 3 shoot, though.

Has the recording drum been serviced on the deck?
deck, yes, and replaced. cam- no. but plays back and captures ok on cam.

Perhaps swap out the cable?
will try this. would cable length matter for firewire? i kinda suspect this to be the problem.

Try another low end single chip camcorder for capture to see if the trouble can be duplicated...
did this, even worse. same with using my xl1. it just works with the xl2.

what i don't understand is why the artifacts don't show up during capture- only when playing back from the captured file.

thanks jimmy

This might be impossible but here's what I'm trying to do...anyone know if this is possible.

Lets say I'm editing a baseball game and it's going to be streamed in flash over the web. Beside the video viewer window, there are two spaces for text.

Is it possible to add xml, text, or some type of metadata to the timeline in premiere pro which, once encoded in flash, can act as a signal to change the text displayed in the two boxes beside the player.

For example...in the first inning there are three batters and two pitchers. I put some kind of marker in the timeline that can be used to signal a database to update the info in the boxes once the batters switch and the pitchers switch.

Anyone?

Rick

Hey Folks,

It is me again....

So I am trying to set-up to do some voice over in adobe premiere pro. I get everything going once I say the first thing while actively recording it starts looping what I am saying back into the recording, almost like it is an echo effect.. Now when I am in the audio mixer view there are no effects on the recording channel. I really don't want to record through audition...cause I want to see what I am voicing over....

I am using a basic electret unidirectional mic (I am poor) that is run through my Audigy2ZS Soundcard.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Joe

PS- Thanks for the help with the stills that rocks and for those that helped me in PC design. I do like the dual core pentium.

I am working on a soundtrack to accompany a storyboard.
I have two *.aiff files from Valentino soundfx that for some reason have no sound when they are imported and conformed. I have a bunch of other files also from valentino that are *.aif files, and they play fine. I am able to play the two *.aiff files in quicktime, so I'm not sure what's going on when I bring them into premiere. If anyone can help me figure this out, I thank you in advance. I am relatively new to the editing experience, so layman directions might be needed:).

Thanks!
Erica
(BTW--I am using Premiere Pro 1.5 on a PC[celeron, 1gig DDR])

The bluriness in vertical flip vs. horizontal flip might have to do with interlacing field orders. Vertical flipping changes the order of the fields and Premiere might have to do some interpolation on the image to display the fields correctly. De-interlacing the video first might fix this, and this would work better with a third party de-interlacer (such as Magic Bullet) than doing it in Premiere. Otherwise, maybe you might try flipping the video in After Effects if you have access to it.

But I might be wrong...

If your aiff have a long duration, it might take some time for PPRO to conform the audio, and the file won't play until this is done. Check on the right part of the status bar for a "Conforming Audio" message.

If that's not it, it might just be that a camcorder is connected to your PC. By default, Premiere disables audio from the timeline to the PC speakers when it detects a firewire connection; audio only plays on the camcorder. You can change that behaviour in the preferences.

The old Adobe Premiere used to have a storyboard feature where you could lay out your clips in a window and then export the sequence to the timeline with any chosen transition in between. I can't seem to find this same feature anywhere in Pro. Is it gone, or am I just not seeing it? The reason I ask is because I'm doing a photo montage for a customer and that feature makes the process alot easier.
Thanks

Nevermind that. I found it right after the post. Thanks anyways.

One possibility is your microphone is not muted for playback in Windows.
You can check this in the Volume Control window (double click on the speaker icon in the taskbar).

When you encode the video for Flash (I am talking about Flash 8 here, not sure for the others), you will have the possibility to add cue points. And these cue points will trigger events in Flash, for example displaying text...

Yeah, I knew that I had to wait for it, and that wasn't the case. Its only a 2 min aiff file, which shouldn't cause any problems. And I don't have a camcorder connected either. I had initially accessed the file via an external hard drive, but thought maybe I would have better luck if I copied the files to my desktop, then imported the files. Unfortunately, the same thing happened. I also updated quicktime, thinking maybe the codecs were missing, but that didn't do anything either. I'm really just totally dumbfounded about this one.

Hi Erica
If it were me, I'd try bringing the AIFF file into another editor - Cool Edit, Audition etc and exporting it out as a WAV file. I've found Premiere (v6.5)likes those best. The other problem I found was with differing sample rates - Premiere likes to have all audio at the same sample rate for a project i.e 48kHz, 44.1kHz etc so it may be worth checking the files to make sure the sample rate is the same (N.B it may be that Ppro's "conform" feature sorts this out...
Hope this helps

Graham

Hi Joe
I may have the worng end of the stick here, but it seems your post concerns images being cropped when you bring them into Premiere. If you're viewing them on a video monitor (rather than a PC monitor) it could be that video monitors overscan and chop off the edges of images anyway. Does it crop them in the monitor window on the PC screen?
I always do all my stills work in photoshop (I have a plugin that allows me to preview Photoshop output on a video monitor) and don't have problems.
Hope this helps

Graham

I will be working with flash 8. Will I encode the video and then, in flash, add these cue points? I can't do this from premiere before the encode right?

Also, I am new to going from premiere to flash. Does Flash Studio 8 give you a plugin or some way to encode straight to flash from premiere...do i have to go to quicktime first? Whats the best way of doing this?

Rick

Rick,
To accomplish this task, you will need Flash 8 and not Premiere Pro. You need to export your file from Premiere Pro as an AVI or MOV (or a bunch of other formats), then open up the Flash Video Encoder > Encode your file > Import into flash and add the trigger points.

Well I've just been retained to shoot upcoming Cheerleading competitions with three cameras. I've got two events to shoot and edit before 12/20.

Now come on Adobe, release 2.0 so I can upgrade to the new version and not have to purchase United Media Multicam as well. Cause I know you're going to have multicam in 2.0, right?

I guess I'll give them till late next week and then I'll have no choice but to give UM my hard earned money.

JayH

Thanks,

We just got in our copy of flash so I'm going to try it.

Rick

I think the cable might be the culprit ... try a known good 6 footer... the easy trouble shoot is to attempt again with your xl1 and the deck... As to why only the XL2 allows for a clean transfer is odd ... it should also be suspect if the cable was too long / defective...

Ok, here's what I've discovered so far.

I can export directly to flash video from after effects. I just open my premiere clip in AE and that's that. However, I'm editing the footage in 720x480 and I need to export the video to 360x240.

When I resize the output in AE, it just crops. Same thing when I resize the video in the timeline. Anyone got a solution here?

I can export to a smaller screen size with Quicktime from Premiere, but I'm prepping for a big job and being able to cut out that step would be nice.

Do they make a plugin that allows you to go straight from PPro to Flash?

Rick

However, I'm editing the footage in 720x480 and I need to export the video to 360x240.

that tells us that you aren't using square pixels, which is what computer monitors use... you should be exporting at 320x240(half of 640x480)... some apps may want you to select square pixels manually.

if your final picture size in flash is 320x240, do some experimenting and see if the flash quality is better when you start off with the full-sized frame of 720x480, because you'll be giving the flash encoder more picture info to work with... if for some bastard reason the flash encoder can't handle deinterlacing and resizing, try exporting a full-frame, square-pixel avi(640x480).

after affects has xlnt quality, but you have to really work hard to learn how to use it.

and of course ALWAYS use two-pass encoding, and vbr if possible.

It could be the fact that camera head has shifted it's position during day three. (Also, one should unfortunately never use the cleaning tape before tapeclog problems arise since they actually "grind" the heads.)

If you record something again, just as a test, are the results the same in the Jvc deck (bad)? If so, I would make a digital backup copy of the day 3 material (fw from the XL2 to the jvc deck), and send the camera in for a check up. Remember to make the copy BEFORE you send it in, if you're unlucky your "malfunctioning" XL2 could be the only player that can actually play the tape correctly.

We (I'm working parttime as a reseller) have unfortunately seen this problem before with both XL1's and XL2's. And a customer made the misstake in repairing the cam BEFORE making backups, rendering about 20 important tapes useless.

/Max

Mine is model STR-DE525. I believe it's an older model - my dad gave me his when my old JVC amp gave up the ghost. One day I'd like to hook it up to see how it works with my sound blaster, but I use my logitech Z-5500 5.1 system for my initial mix. I like to listen to my mixes on different systems, including a normal stereo and just an ancient mono TV to hear what it sounds like. I notice that Douglas Spotted Eagle recomends doing just that in his "Vegas 5 Editing Workshop" book.

When I open Premiere 6.5, I get an Assert Failure message. It says:
Failure: prtSegment->inListPos=>
File: c:\work\rockford\Wind\c\Cutlist.c
Line: 176

Does anyone know what this is about? What do I need to do?
Thanks!
Tricia

This is a debugging statement put in the program by one of the developers. Do you get this message when you start up Premiere or after you try to open a project file?