Hi Richie,

The only thing that you could do is to get the tape converted by a 'production' house to NTSC. There will be no way that you will be able to capture the footage (unless you have PAL camcorder/ deck), plus you would need a PAL TV if you wanted to see the pictures on a TV screen while editing. Sorry but there is no easy way to use Premiere or any other editing software to do it with out capturing first in PAL and then converting it to NTSC (which Premiere can do, but I personally would get it done by a professional 'production' house).

Cheers,

Hi Dan thats a bit strange.

I take it that when you play it back on the timeline ith DV playback on its OK? or when you playback on your desktop?

Have you made sure that any rendering that needs to be done is done? (Push RETURN just to be sure).

Does it do the same when exporting the movie to an DV AVI file?

How about trying to export the movie as a DV AVI file, create a new project, and import the DV AVI file and then try exporting back to tape?

Just a few things to try...

I think I may have found the solution - I disabled McAfee VirusScan and was able to export a 30-minute sequence with no problems. I hope that fixes the problem permanently. Likely something with the latest update of McAfee.

Thank you ed. That is what I figured. I was just hoping for the video gods to make me lucky this one time. Thanks again

Richie Cruz

Bronx, NY

That would explain it. It is not a good idea to be running any other processes on a computer when editing video. If possible, one should have the computer set up with only the programs needed for video editing (and no Web surfing!).

If you are already familiar with this, please forgive me. Since this info was so hard to find I had to post it to help others. I looked all over Adobe's site for the page below and couldn't find it. The link is in the device control menu within Premiere, brilliant Adobe........dumbasses!

I don't normally use device control and was never able to get Premiere 6.5 on my laptop to control my DV-2000 deck. Well, after trying all options in the menu in Premiere including DV-1000, standard, generic and alternates 1-5, I noticed the edit knob on my deck that I had never used. I don't know why the DV-2000 is not in the menu or listed on Adobe's site as a compatible device. Near the firewire port, the deck has a knob with 6 positions and two that are a position apart and are labeled Edit and DV. The others are blank but probably serve a purpose with other different devices and/or software. Anyway, I tried DV-1000, standard, generic and alternates 1-5 in Premiere's device control menu and set the deck knob to DV and...... I was controlling the deck remotely! So, not having the knob set to DV on the deck is what the problem was the whole time. I still won't use remote control that much but I am happy to see that something in Premiere is working properly.

Device Control - once there, scroll down to find your device compatibility
www.adobe.com/products/premiere/dvhdwrdb.html

Last night I exported my short to MPG2-DVD from Premiere 1.5.1. I then took it into the Sony DVD authoring package, whipped up a quick menu and then burned it to a DVD-RW.

I fired it up on my progressive scan DVD player that is feeding my 30" HDTV set via component video. Everything looked GREAT! Except for the credit crawl at the end. The text looks terrible. On the PC in WM9, it's smooth as silk and looks great. Part of the credits involve panels that fade in and fade out and these are followed by the crawl. The text in those panels looks perfect. Only the crawl has issues.

Can anyone shed any light here?

I have DivX Pro that I purchased from the vendor and installed. When I run Sherlock, it shows all of the DivX codecs as installed and working. When I try to encode to the DivX format from Premiere, the codec does not show up.

I select Microsoft AVI or DV AVI and in the Codec list is all of my codecs EXCEPT for the DivX one.

Anyone have any idea why this might be?

TIA!

Just a thought, but in Premiere did you set optimize stills?

Hmmmm, not sure. I will check that tonight :)

Hey,

I can't search the forums for some reason (I'm using firefox) so sorry if this quesiton has already been answered.

Here's my problem. I have a feature length documentary that I've been working on for quite some time. I am working off quite a few external hard drives and now when I open the project, most of the audio is not there. The block where it's supposed to be is there, but it's blank. A few music tracks are still there and some of the audio linked to video is there, but the rest isn't showing up. I've checked all the captured video and the audio plays fine when I open it in quicktime. Anyone know what's going on?

Rick

I just upgraded my system recently. Got a Pentium D dual core 2.8Ghz after certification from the salesman that Adobe products were optimized for this (dual CPUs). Also got 1024Mb of memory (two 512Mb working in tandem). Motherboard is an Asus P5Ld2.

Now when I try to export to DVD, I get "out of memory" errors. For a 100min. project, PPro (1.5) will just create a 200Mb (or just about) m2v file and then continue with the ac3 audio. Then it performs the assembly with this bogus video file and gives me an "out of memory" error and stops.

Tried to export an MPEG2 file too. Same result. I get a "Adobe Premiere Pro failed to return a video frame. Cancelling the operation" error message. Is my work trapped in a PPro timeline forever? Half-kidding of course, since I'm able to export a DV file (thank god).

Now what the hell is this? Yes, an other bug, they come a dime a dozen with this crappy piece of software (sorry for the short fuse but this is not the first time I experience a head scratcher of this kind in PPro, especially when working with 24p), but does anybody here have already experienced this? Found a workaround solution? Any ideas as to what or where I should be looking? I'm desperate. This editing software is eating at my sleep time and my client is anxiously waiting for his DVD. For crying out loud I just want to get this on DVD, it shouldn't be that complicated!

The "Adobe Premiere Pro failed to return a video frame." error is one that I would get when I would maximise PP1.5 and then minimize it using the little pop-up window that shows the rendering progress when I was outputting video. I got much better results when I kept my damn hands off the app while it did it's thing.

I know, seems weird, but that is what happened.

This might help (same solution in both threads):

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=36022
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=39156

If it doesn't work, let us know.

Could be other problems like unusual source audio format or something, but chances are the audio IS there in PPro, but is being conformed to 32 bit which apparently can take a while for long clips. Check out the recommendations in this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=37092

If the issue isn't related to conforming, let us know a little more about file types and settings.

On the DVinfo SEARCH function: this is a glitch from a recent software upgrade; the webmeister is working on it. I've found that I CAN still search from the main page: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf

There is no "optimize stills" option for the MPEG2-DVD selection.

http://www.creativecow.net/articles/hodgetts_philip/titles/index.html

Ok the MainConcept update worked. Didn't know there was a known problem with dual CPU machines. I'm keeping this Adobe database in my favorites from now on. Thanks for the help. I'll finally get some sleep tonight.

I created a DVD a while back and mistakenly deleted my project and never created a master AVI file. SO, I pulled the vob files from the DVD and threw them into Premiere. When previewing the files everything works great. As soon as I render or create a test .avi file, the sound is way off and I seem to lose a lot of frames. Any way around this?

since the pc is of course non-interlaced only, i guess that you want it to look like that on the tv.

how did you render the footage? did you try to de-interlace it at some point? or was it shot in progressive mode?

not a fix for your problem, but you are aware that re-rendering mpeg2 like that will ruin the quality, right?

mainconcept has an mpeg plugin that is supposed to not re-render, but it's pricey... are your project framerate settings the same as the vob was encoded at?

Yeah I am aware that vobs are mpeg and re-rendering can be ugly. I actually had to name the extensions .mpeg in order to get them to work in premiere. I was just trying to tie them together and output to .avi so I can use later. I told premiere to not recompress, or leave as is, but that didn't seem to work...


The project and code settings are the same as I burned the DVD str8 from premiere using the same project template. Scratching my head on this one...

Hi Ben,

I don't have an answer for you but I'd definitely be interested in one. I use an XL2, PPro 1.5 and a DVStorm 2 and would love to edit in 24p.

Let me know if you find anything out and I'll do the same.

Thanks,

Matthew.

VirtualDub and DVD2AVI will both reconvert mpg/VOB to AVI. As previously mentioned, not nearly the quality of the original AVI. Of the two mentioned, I think VirtualDub does a better job.

taking it to avi and then to mpeg2 again is re-rendering the footage twice... that is a worst case scenario.

i would encode the vob straight off of the premiere timeline into the final mpeg2, see if it makes a quality difference... leave out the avi intermediate step.

Actually, the answer was to add a small amount of yellow to the white text and change it to sans serif. Now it looks stellar!

Thanks for all of the responses here!

Hello there,
My question is quite simple. Can Adobe Premiere Pro 7 capture two different audio input channels ?
I have an on board mic connected and also a tie clip mic connected to audio 2 on the side of the handle of my Canon xl1s. I set the camera to 12 bit stereo 1 + 2 and I can toggle between the two audio settings and they both register on the lcd display. The first attempt reviewing the capture, only recorded the on board mic ? Any help will be appreciated. I hope I dont have to go to an external program like scenalyzer just to record two audio channels. That sounds crazy !
Thankyou
Chris

hmmm. I am trying to get a useable avi for later use. As later I will take that avi and make wmv, rm, mov, and mpg clips out of portions of the whole. I'll try going str8 to mpeg from the timeline, maybe that will at least solve the out of sequence and time sync issues.

Thanks for the help thus far.

Hello there,
My question is quite simple. Can Adobe Premiere Pro 7 capture two different audio input channels ?
I have an on board mic connected and also a tie clip mic connected to audio 2 on the side of the handle of my Canon xl1s. I set the camera to 12 bit stereo 1 + 2 and I can toggle between the two audio settings and they both register on the lcd display. The first attempt reviewing the capture, only recorded the on board mic ? Any help will be appreciated. I hope I dont have to go to an external program like scenalyzer just to record two audio channels. That sounds crazy !
Thankyou
Chris

You mean Premiere Pro 1.0, right? Either way it is the same in 1.5, it can only capture one mic source at a time. Scenalyzer Live is the way I capture from my XL-1 or VX2100, it is a great DV capture/organizer/backup app anyway. If you want to only use Premiere, I think you have to capture your footage twice to get the audio from both mic sources, and change the camera settings to the audio source you want to capture. You should make an feature request through Adobe.com if you are outraged at this limitation. I have to use Scenalyer Live anyway to make XL-1 footage's video/audio stay in sync during capturing (a known issue), but I have grown to depend on this app for all my DV capture and DV video backup which is a lot in my case.

Newbie here. I have finished working on a project in Premiere Pro 1.5 and am attempting to export it to mpeg2 (still VERY new at this) for playback on dvd. Its 30 mins of movie.

In any case, I continue to get this error:

"Adobe Premiere Pro Failed to Return a Video Frame. Cancelling the Operation"

This happens at approx 17% of the rendering process. What the heck am I doing wrong? How can I fix this? How do I determine where the failed frame is exactly? And what do I do once I find it?

Sorry for the list of questions.

Jerry

I recently shot a few weddings and I used a Canon ZR90 as my b-cam to capture some cut away shots while I was zooming in or changing my shot composition with the a-cam. Well obviously, the 1ccd chip camcorder is a whole lot different in comparision to the XL2. I've messed with the color correction and brightness/contrast filters within Premiere. Are there any filters or plug-ins I can download "hopefully for free" that would help with this issue of getting the b-cam look as close to the a-cam look as possible?

Thank you for your time and thoughts.

Josh Woll
JW Productions

Thanks for the straight answer Jim. If I was to go with scenalyzer what is the procedure ? Do I capture everything with it then import to adobe. I have just downloaded this so am looking to get my dual audio into premiere. The strain is showing, yes it is pro 1.0 !
Thanks again

I have ripped some of my video off of a DVD burned by a real-time DVD recorder. The 16 minute file is about 220MB, but it has about 40 seconds of dead space in the beginning that I have to get rid of.

I put the video on the timeline, got rid of the initial 40 seconds and exported the movie as an AVI file with the same Codec used in the source file (MS MPG 4 V1).

My problem is that the resulting video file is 50% larger (350MB) and the quality is horrible. There is streaking on the motion grahpics that make it truly unwatchable.

I am really confused as to how the same codec with the same data can produce such wildly different outputs.

Any ideas?

Anyone know how I could just chop the first 40 seconds off the file and leave the rest the same?

Thanks in advance.

The ‘Flip’ 3D transition has a default background colo[u]r of mid gray. By double clicking on the transition, it is possible to set this to background to another color. Rather than having to reset every transition individually, is there a way to change the default color used by Flip?

Thanks!

Ken

I've been using my 2.66Ghz laptop to attempt capture of HDV video from my FX1 with Premiere. I am only getting about ten second captures maximum, with only 8 seconds or so of clean video/audio. After ten seconds or so, the clip cuts off no matter how long I've been capturing. That is, a two-minute capture will act as if it has captured the full 2 minutes, but the captured file will only be ten seconds long with a/v dropouts, pixelation and noise during the last few seconds of the clip. Some of my captures are only maxing out at 4 or 5 seconds regardless of how long I actually captured.

The clean part of the capture looks great and plays back in realtime. I have 512MB of RAM on this computer. It almost seems that the capture is just filling up memory and cutting off when it is full rather than writing it to the hard drive on the fly. I could upgrade the memory to 2GB, but would this just increase my captures to ~40 seconds?

When the video plays back in Premiere's preview window before the capture is started, the video and audio is jerky and there is a long lag between what is playing on the camera and what is playing in the capture preview window. When the capture starts the preview window goes blank (as expected).

I was skeptical that this computer would handle HD and I am planning on purchasing a new dedicated editing PC, but if I can get this to work then I might be able to hold off on dropping $1k on a new computer for a while.

My short film has an opening that includes my company logo "blah blah blah presents" and it builds this logo over the course of about 100 frames and then holds for about 25 frames while some music builds to a cresendo. At about frame 130 there is an electric guitar that starts the movie's theme and when the first CRASH of the guitar's power chord is struck, the whole logo blows apart and transitions into the film's opening title sequence.

Now, during that 25 frame hold period, I have a starburst that flashes quickly off of the corner of one of the letters in the word "Presents".

All of this stuff was created in a CG application called Lightwave 3D. The starburst is created by putting a point light on the letter where I want the effect to occur. I ramp the light intensity from 0 to 100 and back to 0, add a star filter to the light and a lens flare ring.

I render this crap out as uncompressed AVI in HDV resolution (1440x1080 Pixel Aspect 1.33).

I drop it into premiere and it looks killer...Except that I get no starburst. I can see that the light blast has affected the other items in the sequence (since lightwave ray-traced all of that) but I do not see the burst.

So I load the sequence into media player (It's uncompressed - about 1GB of data) and it plays it - Albeit VERY slowly but I can see each frame and sure enough, there is my starburst in all of it's glory...

Does anyone have ANY clue why Premiere would do this? I overcame it by re-rendering the sequence as a series of TIFF files and dropping that into the timeline. When I did that it worked perfectly...

When I try to capture HDV footage in Premiere, it never works. I use CapDVHS and it works perfectly. You should give it a try.

http://hdvforever.com/hdv/hdrhc1/freecapture/default.htm

It's real easy with Scenalyzer Live. Download the new version and install it, and go thru the settings to select the option to capture second audio channel as a .wav file. You then capture your footage to a folder with the app thru firewire from your DV camera or mini-DV tape deck and then import the resulting .avi files (containing the primary, on-camera mic's audio) and the corresponding .wav's also. To edit your dual-audio footage you just drag the .wav's into the timeline on audio 2 below the .avi on video1/audio 1 and they will line up properly to keep it all in sync. It is easiest to trim the clips in the timeline and use the on/off buttons on the left to listen to one or both audio channels this way. I actually sometimes have three channels of audio when I film with my XL-1- incl. stereo audio from the on-camera mic and up to two mono channels from my two handheld Azden mics that transmit into my dual antenna Azden receiver plugged into the audio inputs on the side of the XL-1 handle. Works pretty good for an inexpensive audio kit.

It's generally well known that Premiere and Divx don't get along for god knows what ever reason it may be. Similar problems occur with Premiere with some other codecs. If you want to encode to divx, you may have to export to a lossless avi format, I use HuffyUV, and then compress it to Divx/Xvid* in VirtualDub.

*I'd recomment Xvid over Divx being it's free, and open source (there's always new builds comming out every month or so)

One thing that boggles me some is the fact you spent money on Divx? It really isn't worth paying for, at least not for any reason I could possibly concieve since the features on he free version is all you'd really need.

Anywho, I hope this helps. Hopefully someone else may be able to provide a more technical reason or solution to your problem.

The free HDV tools that come with Premiere Pro do require a 3Ghz PC with an 800Mhz FSB do function correctly. 2.66Ghz is a little underpowered and is likely running on a slower (533) memory system. Aspect HD will likely work for you, maybe even for Premiere based capture, if not you can use the HDlink tool to capture and convert to AVI in two passes (completely avoiding the glitches you are now getting.) The trial verison is available from www.cineform.com

David Newman
CTO, CineForm

I've been having to use premiere pro 1.0 to capture from minidv because 1.5 does not reconized the device. But, latley for some odd reason, when i go to capture in premiere 1.0, it captures for about 10 or so minutes and then automatically stops no matter what tape it is or camera. I reinstalled premiere 1.0, and that did not fix my problem. So i was wondering if you have any suggestions on what to do next, and mabye know about any updates for premiere 1.5 that would allow me to caputre there. Thnx

Try making sure premiere didn't mess with the transparency settings when you loaded the clip into the timeline. I've had premiere auto assume that a clip should have a transparency before, though it rarely happens.

Should this be in a different category? Anyone?

So you ripped the mpeg2 footage from the dvd, converted it to MS MPG4 V1, threw it into premiere, then exported it out using the same codec again? If this is so, then it's easy to explain the quality loss. Never use MS MPG4 V1 (aka Microsoft MPEG-4 V1), ever. What happened is you used a bad mpeg4 codec to compress your footage, then imported it into premiere, which is a no no, cause premiere doesn't like working with mpeg4 "anything", though it can if you fight with it. Then you exported, compressing the footage again with a bad codec, thus ultimately making your footage look snafu.

Now incase I read you wrong, and you only used the MS MPEG-4 codec when exporting from premiere, then it isn't as bad as I thought, but still bad.

DISCLAIMER: Some information below may be wrong, out of place, or possibly just too damn confusing for both the reader and the one typing this. If errors are made (which is very likely) and found PLEASE by all means correct or suggest an alternative method, there are certainly plenty out there.


Now here is a process that might work for you.
1. Will involve DVD2AVI, AVIsynth, and VirtualDub.

What you do is load the mpeg2 footage you ripped into DVD2AVI (Without converting the footage to anything other than what you just ripped off the dvd). Go to File, and select "Save Project" and let it make a d2v file

Then you go d/l Avisynth. Not quite sure what the newest version is now.

You then open up Notepad, and type in:

LoadPlugin("C:\AVSFilters\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
MPEG2Source("D:\xx\xxxxxxx.d2v",cpu=1,interlaced=true)

Now the locations and file names will be different obviously, so correct as needed. Also you may be using a newer version of Avisynth than I do, since I can only use v 2.0 without my pc crashing on me. If you are using 2.5 or above please use the following:

LoadPlugin("C:\AVSFilters\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
MPEG2Source("C:/yourfolder/yourprojectfile.d2v",ipp=true,cpu=4,upconv=true, info=true)

ipp=true - means that you are telling the plugin that your DVD footage is interlaced. If it is not, change it to false.

cpu - this settings designates the strength of the post-processing. The values are from 1 to 6 with 6 being the strongest. I find that 5 and 6 blur the material a lot but 1 to 4 simply improve quality, so I almost always use setting 4 to reduce mpeg2 blocking and ringing.

upconv=true - this outputs YUY2 footage instead of YV12. This is HIGHLY recommended if you are going to make clips or edit with interlaced footage as this will guarantee that the chroma in the image is upsampled correctly depending on whether it is a field-based or a frame-based encoded image.

info=true - this prints useful information about the decoding of a particular frame, good for debugging.

Whenever to you get the settings right, save the file as MyVideo.avs. Make sure the extention is .avs or else it won't work right. Open the avs file in Virtual Dub. From there you can select what portion of the video you WANT. When you have it selected, you can save as AVI.

Now I dunno what your intensions are exactly for this clip. If you want to make it so you can burn it back to dvd, I suggest you save the avi in an uncompressed or lossless format. If you thought 300+mb was big, using a lossless codec (like HuffyUV) will make this file end up roughly 8-9gb, about 1gb every 2 min, but there will be no quality loss, and quality loss is bad.

You can then covert this file to mpeg2 using Tmpgenc's encoder, found here: http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html

Or what ever mpeg2 encoder you like to use is up to you.

There should be a 30 day trial period where you can encode to mpeg2 with the Tmpgenc encoder. I certainly hope you can do that on your own since this post is getting a little bit big as it is. After you make the mpeg2, you can burn it back to dvd.


NOW if you are wanting to make some small avi file to show to your friends or whoever, then don't make the uncompressed, or lossless avi file. Instead, use Divx or Xvid. The most simple way is to use the CQ or Constant Quality feature (Xvid has this, not sure on Divx anymore), set it to somewhere around 80-100% (may take some experimenting to get the filesize right) and you should have a decently sized video file with good quality. Also consider resizing the footage to lower the filesize some.


I hope this helps, and like I said, if anyone sees anything wrong, do not hesitate to correct it, since just about everything used in that process I use older versions of (haven't the need to update yet). So the steps and settings are a little iffy for me.


PS. You can also edit AVS files in premiere if you like, just make sure you have the avisynth premiere plugin installed.

It could be a video transition. Look at about 17% if you have a transition and remove it. Then render again to see if the problem disappeared. It also can be transitions on top of other transitions or transitions that are too short.

I had problems when my video finished with only music and no video. I had to add black on top of the music to make the encoder happy. But obviously it is not this problem that bothers you now.

If you still can't get it to work, try to render a lossless compressed avi and convert to mpeg2 in your authoring program.

Hope that helps.

Follow the links and it should solve your problem:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=53619

If not, let us know!

yeah I'd check where that 17% ends up at and see if it's some transition or effect setting that's stumping it. More than often you can just make a small adjustment and you should fine.

Hi Josh,

I don't think you'll find any plugins that will magically match your b cam to your A cam, the only plugins that you might find will be colour correction tools just like the ones you already have in Premiere. Your best bet is to fiddle around with the colour correction, plus the use of video effects to try and get them matched - this will take time.

Thanks,

Thanks for everything Jim. Got it nailed and it works just fine !

James,

Thanks for the detailed response... very helpful.

I am not an MPG fan, but my customer had asked me to use it because they are loading it on to their network server (IPTV) and that's what they wanted. After digging some more I found that they could take it another way so I am giving them a WMV.

Thanks again.