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Rob Lohman
September 6th, 2005, 06:21 AM
Hi Leonard. That sounds like a bug to me, however, I'm not using Premiere (Pro),
so it could be some setting somewhere as well.

Good luck!

Ryan Douglas
September 6th, 2005, 12:13 PM
I have searched but couldn't find exactly my problem. I am using an XL1s with a shotgun mic and a wireless mic recording to 2 seperate channels (12-bit S1 S2). When I capture the video in Premiere Pro 1.5 it comes in as one channel with left and right tracks. What I need to learn how to do if possible, is capture the 2 channels on two seperate tracks like I did when i was using a Sony camera and avid dv express.

The other issue i am having is editing the audio tracks. In the past on other software i would just add keyframes and i could change the audio levels in between the keyframes to do different audio fades and such. I have not figured out how to do this on premiere. As i said, i am used to using Avid.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Ed Resuello
September 6th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Thanks Rob.
I've googled and found the download. Haven't tried it yet, but from reading the text, it appears a bit more involved than point-&-click! I'll definitely let you know how it goes. In the meantime, if you know of any other potential solutions, please reply.

Amir Shehata
September 6th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Hi,

I have been using PPro on my labtop (Pentium 4, 1.9 GHz, 1GB ram, XP home edition, service pack 1) and it has been working fine for me. Now I baught a new computer, which I was hoping would make things faster (Pentium Dual core 820, 2.8GHz, 2 GB ram, XP Prof with service pack 2, Radeon AX550GETP Dual VGA 256 MB, Asus P5LD2-VM Intel 945G motherboard), but when I started using PPro on my new computer, I started observing strange behavior:

1. If I apply CineLook on a clip on sequence A, and then embedd sequence A in sequence B, then try to export sequence B, once PPro trys to render sequence A, it crashes. If I render sequence A directly, it works.

2. After a while of using PPro, I start observing weird behavior with Still images (JPEG). They wouldn't be displayed on the monitor, I just see black, or they would appear upside down. Once I shutdown PPro and start up again, it's fine.

3. After a while of using PPro, when I try to export a movie, I notice that not all tracks are rendered, only Video track 1. If I shut down PPro and start it up again, it works.

I can get around these querky behavior, but it's very inconvenient. Is there any known issues with my hardware setup and PPro 1.0? Would upgrading to PPro 1.5.1 help? Is there any strange hardware configuration issues I need to be aware of?

Thanks for your help
amir

Rob Williams
September 6th, 2005, 05:36 PM
In answer to your second question, select the Audio portion of your clip, then look at the Effects Control window (I think that is the name but I don't have the app in front of me right now). You can twirl down the Volume control parameter and keyframe it. You can also add any audio effects and adjust their parameters in that window as well.

Leonard Van Gelder
September 6th, 2005, 06:14 PM
I'm hoping it's not a bug because I never get much response from Adobe, hence i'm trying here. Anyone else have any clue what I could be missing?

Dan Euritt
September 6th, 2005, 08:08 PM
i think that the mics you are referring to are mono, not stereo... so what it sounds like is that you really only have two channels of audio to begin with, not four... you should be able to record the standard 16-bit stereo, with one mic on the left stereo input, and the other mic on the right stereo input.

you could then add an extra stereo pair in the editor, duplicate channels for left and right, etc.

Christopher Lefchik
September 6th, 2005, 08:49 PM
The increased system demands you heard about for the Premiere Pro 1.5.1 patch most probably relate to the HDV features that were added, which would only be applicable for those who edit HDV. In that case I think you should be fine updating. (Just in case something did go wrong you could add a System Restore checkpoint before updating.)

I did come across one other person on the Adobe User to User forums who reported the same type of problem you are having (see http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?50@78.kXcVeJjhZEI.22@.3bb9ab9a). He didn't say if he had applied the 1.5.1 patch. Unfortunately, no one answered his post.

Hugh DiMauro
September 7th, 2005, 01:05 PM
For anybody who wants to know, I figured it out. You use the matte tool in the titles menu. You can shape the matte to whatever crop shape you want.

Richard Broadhead
September 7th, 2005, 02:27 PM
I know this might not be all to much help for you but I've been experiencing the same exact quircky behaviors with PPro myself. At first it was only a mere nusciance, but after a while the problems seemed to increase and occur more often. Even after I bought a setup similiar to yours I still came across the same issues. The only thing that stopped all the problems was when I reinstalled PPro, but even then it started up after a few weeks. I'm not sure if this is a common occurence or what, but I sure hope Adobe has a fix for the problem. Good luck.

Amir Shehata
September 7th, 2005, 02:31 PM
I just upgraded yesterday to PPro 1.5 and I removed Cinelook plugin, it seemed to resolve the issues. But time will tell. It might start happening again!

Ronnie Murtagh
September 8th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Hi again

This problem is still with Premiere Elements it wont load the file

Please help...

Thanks
Ronnie

Ryan Douglas
September 8th, 2005, 05:50 PM
Like i mentioned earlier, I shoot High School and College sports. Unfortunately i can't just break out the digital camera and take pictures of the action. Is there a way I can take a single frame of my video in PP 1.5 and save it as a jpeg picture file that i can edit in Photoshop or Msft PictureIt?

Sheila Ward
September 8th, 2005, 07:20 PM
1. Select the frame you want to export in the timeline so it shows in the monitor.

2. Chose File->Export->Frame from the menu

3. Save as a TIFF file.

Edit and convert to jpeg as needed.

Hope this helps!

Sergey Bosh
September 9th, 2005, 04:37 AM
Hi there!! i've recently found screen capture tool that is an easy and fastest way to take video screen captures from Windows screen.Its quite nice tool, i have checked!!! http://www.geovid.com/Screen_VidShot/

Leonard Van Gelder
September 9th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Thanks Christopher, upon your info I upgraded to 1.5.1 and from what I can tell that has mostly resolved the issue. I am however, receive a bit of the 24p stutter when I play the DV with desktop player (Which did not occur in 1.5.0), but I'm no longer seeing the resizing on the effects, which was important, but I still have some slight issues with the Filmstrips, I will try a little later on to re-export, apply my changes and see if it imports properly this time. I assume it's currently just related to the export from 1.5.0 that is causing the filmstrip issue. If it all works out, I'll make another post detailing the solution.

Marco Wagner
September 9th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Wow thanks I needed to know that shortcut as well!!!!!!!!!! You saved me a great deal of time too.

Marco Wagner
September 9th, 2005, 07:25 PM
Hey Steven do you have any green screening walkthroughs for AE 6.5? I have green screening nailed in PPRO1.5 but I KNOW AE can do it better. I just got AE and haven't learned it yet. It seems a little overwhelming like Premiere was 5 years ago, lol....

Chris Metts
September 9th, 2005, 09:14 PM
Hello,

I've been trying to do a somewhat over done effect for a client of mine with no success. I've been trying to create the effect were realilstic looking light rays sweep behind my text from left to right. I've searched the site for any post on this subject and have found nothing. I also searched google and the only thing i could come up with was an article about AE 5.5 and using the "Trapcode's Shine" plug-in. I was hoping there is a way I can do this effect without having to get this plug-in. If anyone can tell me how to do this effect please let me know. (It will really save my butt)

Thanks,

Chris.

Jun Tang
September 10th, 2005, 10:59 AM
After a avi file is captured and stored in a folder, how come when you move the avi file to another location it appears Offline on premiere? I try to link the media but it says the file is unsupport format or damage file.

How can it be damage, I just dragged and drop. I also copy and paste. Does it make a difference?

I also try to copy and paste the avi file back to the original location. And still nothing. Do I have to capture the whole file just because I drag and drop it someplace else?

Ed Smith
September 10th, 2005, 02:11 PM
Hi Jun,

If you capture to one location and copy and paste the clip to another location, Premiere will certainly complain about it, its reference is now lost, and you will will have to manually tell it where it now resides.

However as for the "unsupport format or damage file" messages this is not good. It could be plausable that during your copy and pasting the clip could have got currupt, can you play the clip OK in windows media player, or movie maker? Can you import the file into a fresh new project in premiere?

If you can't then you will need to recapture the clip. If however you can play it fully in WMP or Movie maker but not in a new project in Premiere then you could export it again from Moviemaker as a new DV AVI, and see if you can import the new file. If you can import the clip into a new project then, there is probably something wrong with the project file.

Hope this helps,

Jun Tang
September 10th, 2005, 02:26 PM
Hey Ed,
Thanks again for your input. I learn what you said the hard way, but atleast you confirmed it. I think it lost the reference. No...it doesn't open either in premiere or as windows media. I think I have to recapture...very exciting.
But this is what I experiment already. I drag clips that were OKAY (meaning they were still linked and working order through premiere) and put them in another folder. Then premiere gave me that same message. I tried to link it to the new folder...but that doesn't work. So I press Ctrl Z to undo. So it goes back to the original folder okay. But it is still unlinked. Then I go into premiere to re-link...works find.
I guess if you don't go and UNDO and shut the computer off in which the undo is no longer an option....bad news is that you have to reimport the footage. I will experiment further with another external harddrive to see if it's the ext harddrive. Because I call adobe tech support...said that it could be specification on the ext hard drive.
Thanks for your help. Hopefully that help you and others as well. will post what I find.

take care and look forward to any respond you or others may have

Steven Gotz
September 10th, 2005, 02:58 PM
I am not very good with Keylight yet, but there is a very good PDF file in this directory on your system, if you installed in the default location, and you have the Pro edition:

C:\Program Files\Adobe\After Effects 6.5\Support Files\Plug-ins\Keylight

Read through it - it should help get you started.

David Lach
September 11th, 2005, 08:26 AM
I have a pretty long shot that I need to use but as is it's unuseable. The shot is fixed on a tripod but it was shot using an XL2 at full telephoto and since the optical stabilizer wasn't on, there is some mild (but too noticeable) shaking from time to time (I'm not the one who shot the footage).

I'd like to hear anybody who knows anything about stabilization plugins for Premiere Pro, some that actually work. I've tried Steadymove Pro with no success (it will do odd things to the image). This is a plugin I'm feeling I will be able to use on a regular basis so I don't mind the price as long as it's not at the Magic Bullet Suite level. The footage to be corrected is pretty basic stuff. Just an old lady reading a prepared speech in front of a mic. But there is no way I can start manually correct each and every frame by hand, this would take me weeks to do.

I'd also like to hear about a basic sharpening plugin, one with minimal adjustment features, that will work with Premiere Pro. You know, like the basic sharpening filters you'll find in Photoshop. I was quite surprised there was no default sharpening plugin bundled with Premiere Pro (well there are 2 in fact, but they are useless as they completely destroy the image). I need one on a specific shot that is just a tad too soft. I thought about importing the sharpening plugin from Photoshop but it is not in the plugin directory, so if any of you knows about such a plugin, let me know. This thing, if it exists, should not be very expensive, it's a pretty basic feature, one that should have been there from the start.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Ed Resuello
September 11th, 2005, 10:11 AM
I've tried this. Downloaded bbtool19 (found on google), installed, etc. I guess I'm not as techie as I thought - it's too complicated. I'd have to go into C: and then name particular files, syntax, etc.

I'm open to other suggestions. I've also since copied other 30min DVD movies to hard drive (using Video Vault), and those movies play just fine using the 'clip' mode. But once i try to play in 'timeline' - after rending the clip - the video is fine, but audio sound disappears (no sound waves, nothing).

Anyone else having this problem?

Christopher Lefchik
September 11th, 2005, 01:21 PM
If you have After Effects 6.5 try the "Light Sweep" and "Light Burst" effects. Duplicate your text and apply the effect to the lower layer.

If you don't have After Effects 6.5 then I'm afraid you will just have to purchase Trapcode Shine. From what I've heard it is a great plugin.

Christopher Lefchik
September 11th, 2005, 01:31 PM
If you have After Effects Pro, you could give the stabilization feature a try.

I thought about importing the sharpening plugin from Photoshop but it is not in the plugin directory, so if any of you knows about such a plugin, let me know.
In your Photoshop directory, look in the "Plug-Ins\Adobe ImageReady Only\Filters" folder for the UnsharpMask.8bf plugin (why they stuck it in the ImageReady folder I'll never know).

David Lach
September 11th, 2005, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the heads up regarding that Photoshop plugin Christopher. I'll give it a try.

I no longer have AE, only Premiere, so I need a plugin that will work with it (AE plugins work fine too).

Chris Metts
September 11th, 2005, 08:19 PM
Alas I only have AE 6.0 professional version, well at least I wont go anymore crazy looking for it in AE. I geuss I'll just have to go buy Trapcode's shine, Thanks for your help Chris.

Chris.

Armin DeFiesta
September 11th, 2005, 08:29 PM
I recently installed Magic Bullet, but the "Magic Bullet LOOKS SUITE", all with .mbl file extensions (versus the AEX extension all the others seem to have) are not working/showing. Anyone have this happen to them after installation? The Magic Bullet Looks Suite is in my ...

ADOBE/After Effects 6.5/Support/Plugins folder.

Thanks in advance.

Mike Quinones
September 11th, 2005, 09:40 PM
Funny that you guys mention this. I'm running a Compac 3.06 with 1.5 gig of ram and I'm having very much the same thing. If I don't save my project often then I loose every thing not saved. I think that tomorrow I will call Adobe to see If they know of anything. Good luck to you guys.

Brian Doyle
September 13th, 2005, 10:52 PM
I'm running premiere 6.0 here and I was wondering if anyone knew an effect that would let me mute all the colors but one. I understand that even a dress that looks red on video is made of other colors too but there must be some way to let a strond bright color stand out and mute everything else in the shot. Even if I have to play with what color red that is. For ex. if there is 80% red and 15% green and 5% blue dress what would let me let that color run and everything else run black and white or at least very mute.

I'm hopeing to have that effect of still photos. There are popular ones of small kids a flower and only the flower is in color....

Thanks for any help out there....

Calvin Wong
September 14th, 2005, 02:12 AM
I think there is an effect called "color pass" in premiere that lets you do that.
Go to: http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotutorial/tut_premiere60.htm and check out the color pass tutorial. FYI, if you want to fine tune it you can boost up your brightness and contrast settings...sometimes the black/white seems a lil flat but thats just me.

cheers,
calvin

Calvin Wong
September 14th, 2005, 02:23 AM
ya i remember that happening to me as well when i had premiere 6, but ever since i got pro i haven't encountered it since. I remember making title layers and it would tint the footage behind it same with freeze frames. Sorry i couldn't be of help ...at least now you know your not alone : )

-calvin

Brian Doyle
September 14th, 2005, 08:23 AM
I'll take a look tonight, thanks. That sounds like a efffect name that would work.

Jesse Parsh
September 14th, 2005, 03:02 PM
Color pass will work but a color like red will have other colors standing out also. Any orange, pink and so on will not be b/w.

Paul Kepen
September 14th, 2005, 04:37 PM
It took a reinstall of Premiere Elements to get it working.

Gorey Andrews
September 14th, 2005, 08:13 PM
Hello, I'm new to the world of editing and I accidently took some footage in full screen rather then in letterboxed mode, I was hoping it would be possible to fix this error and add black bars to the top and bottom of this piece of footage to have it blend properly with the rest of my footage, if anyone could be of help that would be great. Thanks.

Ronald Lee
September 14th, 2005, 10:01 PM
I just noticed that moving titles, either scrolling across the screen or up and down the screen, look aliased. Terrible.

Can anything be done about that in Premiere 6? I can't find an anti aliasing option for titles anywhere.

Some fonts are particularly back, all blocky and hard to see.

Ed Smith
September 15th, 2005, 08:39 AM
Hi Gorey,

This is no problem.

The best way I think is to create a title with title designer, and create 2 black boxes the size of your black bars, 1 at the top and 1 at the bottom. (I even think that there is a 16x9 matte template you could use).

You can then add this to a track above your video. Hey presto you now have widescreen.

There are quite a few topics about this, please try the search^

Hope this helps,

Rick Step
September 15th, 2005, 10:05 AM
Does anyone know if there is a plugin that allows you to export to flash from Premiere Pro? Thanks

Rick

Ajai Thirumalai
September 15th, 2005, 12:37 PM
Is there a way to capture video clips in chronological order, when they are sprinkled across many tapes? This happens when I want to minize the number of tapes I use, and the scenes(clips) are of varying duration, that I can't afford to lose due to a tape change during a scene.

I use an XL2 and Premiere Pro, use scene detect during capture, and can sort out the clips using the timestamp when they are all in one tape, but not many.

E.g., If my tapes are labelled A, B, C, and my clips in chronological order are 1,2 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 8, 9, and are recorded onto the tapes as

A1269
B347
C58

can I get back to my original sequence of clips 1 through 9, which I can then proceed to edit?

Or do I have to keep track of what I did and unravel the clip sequence manually? I think the XL2 can put on a "time of day/date stamp" but am not sure how to go about this if at all possible.

Any advice is welcome!

ajai

James Emory
September 15th, 2005, 01:50 PM
I know this thread is old and he's probably found the solution by now but just in case.

Scott. Simply right click on the audio track, choose audio options, then choose which channel that you want to seperate and use, take left or take right.

Scott Silverman
September 15th, 2005, 04:13 PM
Thanks for the reply James, but I have since upgraded my NLE several times, and now am on a Mac with Final Cut Pro.

What's really amazing about your post is for me to think that I posted that only 3 years ago. It shows how far I've come in such a short time!

Greg Jacobson
September 15th, 2005, 06:08 PM
no, the audio track toggle switch is not "off". I can hear the aduio when I scroll through the timeline fast but when I play it there is no audio. I can see the levels in the meter but no sound.

When I render the clip out and play it the audio is fine in the clip.


Anyone ever have this problem?

Steven Gotz
September 15th, 2005, 09:19 PM
I believe people use After Effects for that. I don't know of any such plugins.

Mike Rinkunas
September 15th, 2005, 09:42 PM
Rick....

currently, the only way that i know of to do that is to export the file as an avi and then compress it with another program, like sorenson squeeze.

just a note on sorenson squeeze 4, it imbeds incorrect metadata on the video length, so if you're are going to use some form of a scroll bar, it won't work properly - they won't correct this bug until atleast version 5.0, however this isn't an issue with version 2.0

~Mike

James Emory
September 15th, 2005, 10:45 PM
Yep. I figured you would have figured it out or changed 3 years later.

Saturnin Kondratiew
September 15th, 2005, 11:29 PM
i'v done it before i just cant rember how...
how do i make a round vignette around the scene
Thanx
Saturnin

i figured it out thanx
go into
video effects
render
circle

Ed Resuello
September 16th, 2005, 08:49 AM
similar, though just the opposite:
when i play through the "clip" (not timeline) mode, i hear the audio, but when using the timeline mode, no audio. in fact, no audio waves or any sound.
if you figure this one out, please post.