It could be outputting back to your camera, you woiuld get a sort of Jerky effect on your monitors in Premiere if you are? To check:

1) Is your camcorder switched one while you are playing around in the timeline?

2) Have you got DV Playback set in settings?

3) If you have got your DV camera connected, check the viewfinder to see if its playing through. If so simply hook up a TV/ External monitor to the anaolgue outputs on your camera and you should hear sound and full motion video on the TV screen.


Hope this helps,

I would first process the picture files to the desired resolution
(which is 640 x 480 for NTSC video) etc. I ASSUME that Premiere
can load an image sequence (find out which format).

Get a program like Irfanview (www.irfanview.com) which can batch process frames to
do the cropping and output to your desired format (if Premiere
can't read TIFF for example).

Then load this image sequence into Premiere (make sure it knows
that 1 frame is 1 frame etc.) and do your brightness corrections
etc. there. Then render (output) to your final format.

Welcome aboard DVInfo.net Ted! I've moved your thread to our
dedicated Premiere forum.

First two questions:

1. I assume you are indeed on Windows XP since you are running PPro?

2. Which version of PPro are you using?

Usually either of the following is wrong:

1. NLE is corrupt, reinstall Premiere in this case

2. drivers are corrupt, reinstall Windows

3. firewire port on either your camera or computer might be broken / blown (blown can happen quite easily if you plug equipment in or out that is ON), usually testing with different equipment can help you sort that out

4. firewire cable is broken or not good enough

The best way to get all of this figured out is to dance around with
equipment. Try your camera on another (friends?) computer and
see what it does there. Try a different cable. Try a different camera
on your computer (it may have worked in the past, but that is no
garantuee that nothing is corrupt now).

This should help you to identify where the problem lies. Also
previous versions of Premiere required you to set which camera
you had attached (in the preferences somewhere).

What have you done in Premiere to identify you have a capture issue?

Hi, Rob.

So you'd recommend cropping and resizing the TIFFs first as a batch, then presumably correcting the brightness/contrast/colour balance, all before importing the sequence into Premiere.

So I'd be handling a smaller number of smaller files -- ideally just enough for the scene.

I can see that if Premiere is for some reason choking on the .AVI because it can't understand the codec, working with the raw still frames will overcome this.

I'll try playing with a very short clip, and see if I can import the frames and render the clip from there.

Regarding the image size, can you see any advantage in resizing to the eventual output size, which is likely to be smaller than 640px as it will only ever be appearing as a QT online?

I'll report back.

Al

No, you should do the correcting of brightness/contrast/colour
balance IN Premiere, not BEFORE. Do the cropping BEFORE
indeed.

Yes, you could crop to your final output size. However, if you
would like a DVD or something then I would go with 640 x 480
resolution.

No, you should do the correcting of brightness/contrast/colour balance IN Premiere, not BEFORE. Do the cropping BEFORE indeed.

OK. Is there a reason for that which I need to know about?

Yes, you could crop to your final output size. However, if you would like a DVD or something then I would go with 640 x 480 resolution.

OK. This is purely an online trailer. The DVD will be coming later and we'll be producing it using FCP. The small task I'm doing is a DIY (doe het zelf) exercise.

Al

Speaking Dutch are we? <g>

Reason for which of the two?

The reason to do the cropping BEFORE Premiere is two-fold:

- it significantly reduces the size (in both resolution and filesize) of the frames which will greatly increase processing speed in both editing, correction/effects work and final rendering

- you don't need the resolution to begin with (unless you want to pan across an image which you indicated you didn't want to do)

It all makes it much faster and responsive.

The reason to do the correction in Premiere is that it is designed
to work as a video system instead of a still system like Photoshop.
You already indicated you had problems with Photoshop and
Premiere can easily do the task as well. It has brightness, contrast
and all sort of other filters to process the footage. The advantage
is that it does this natively on your complete file (even if it is
composed of stills), Photoshop might support this as well, but as
you indicated you had problems with that. Why not simply use
a native system that was designed for the task?

OK on the cropping before importing the files.

As for the image brightening etc, I confess I was still thinking along the lines of batch processing it using IrfanView or something similar, but IrfanView is possibly a bit too heavy-handed for that purpose.

I'll play with this later, when I've caught up with the morning's work.

Tot ziens!

Al

Ugh...I suspected as much :( Thank you Brandon for verifying..
I really found 6.5 much zippier than 1.5. Sluggish beast :)
I guess I'll up my ram and cpu (3gig cpu and 1gig ram) and we'll see how that goes...

Thanks again for the reply :)

Have you tried adjusting the playback quality to either Automatic or Draft? There's much more pixelation but you'll have a better idea of how your transitions and effects work because playback is smoother. You can switch back to Highest quality when you are doing static work such as adjusting filters.

Following up my earlier post.

Curses! IrfanView doesn't do cropping, so can't use it to batch process.

Got to think again.

Maybe if I don't try to use the .AVI file but import a few .TIFFs I can crop those top and bottom in Premiere before brightening up the image.

Al

Yep, I definitely tried that...it helped a bit..but as soon as there were effects and transistions...ouch. Even on just draft with the monitor window tiny tiny.
So strange why they would allow 1.5 to be more sluggish than 6.5...

thanks a lot...i didn't realize having the camera connected would cause such a problem. thanks again.

Thank you very much for replying so quickly. I will try these out and see if i can narrow it down. When i reinstal Premiere will all the previous videos I have made within it be deleted or what will happen to them. Thanks alot.

Vance,

What sort of setup do you have? Processor, RAM? Do you have a second physical hard drive set up as your scratch disk, or is everything operating off of one HDD?

No question that PPro is demanding. But performance depends both on the your hardware and how your system is set up. If you have an "older" system with a 1GHz processor with 512MB of RAM, your performance isn't going to be the best and that's all there is to it. But even a "fast" system can do poorly if not optimized. For instance, the difference between using a single, mostly filled, highly fragmented "C Drive" and using a second defragged, nearly empty drive as a scratch disk can be night and day.

Also, 24p 2:3:3:2 processing is highly demanding of the CPU.

I found this page referencing a PPro 1.5 update to 1.5.1 on the Adobe PPro downloads page, but as of this writing there is no link to the actual update file:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2654

One would like to assume from this that an update is actually imminent. It is a new page...I check for updates for the Adobe Video Collection applications pretty regularly.

All they advertise is HDV support; no mention of bug fixes...of course, some of us will be checking out 24p behavior and other known issues as soon as this update is available.

NOTICE though, they've upped the min system requirement to a P4-3GHz and 1GB RAM...I don't know at all yet whether that represents a real change to the code or just an attempt to reduce complaints about performance, or is aimed specifically at the demands of HDV support.

Just wanted to get the word out quickly so DVinfo users can be the first on the block with the update...whenever it actually is posted!

Well THAT'S a real tease .... (Adobe, that is, not you Pete)!

Would have to conclude that the release is indeed imminent for them to have that webpage up.

Looks like an Adobe goof. It was an HDV update and was up last night for a few hours but disappeared by midnight or so.

Thats OK,

Sometimes the easiest is not always the obvious...

Cheers,

Well, I am currently using a P3g with 1 gig of Ram...fairly fast machine..
I have 3 physical harddrives...but perhaps I should see how I can optimize my hardrives a bit better, like you are mentioning..

Anyone have any suggestions on the best optimal setup? Like, where Pro should be installed and where the scratch disk should be, the actual source videos etc?

Thanks!

There's a section in the PPro manual / help that goes into a little more detail, but basically just have XP, PPro, and you project files on your C Drive and use a separate drive (ie, D Drive) for capture and scratch files. Regular defragging and not letting them get close to full does make a difference.

Although good news for those who do HDV, a disappointment for those of us hoping for SD enhancements and bug fixes. It does turn out to be only an HDV plug-in. It no longer shows up in the PPro downloads area as an update. You have to register to be notified by email when the NOT YET AVAILABLE HDV plugin actually is released:

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/reghd.html

Ah, well. Patience is said to be a virtue...not that I believe it!

Yeah, here's the latest:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37606

Sigh...

Is there a way with Premiere 6.5 or the Sony DVgate program (which is what I usually use to capture) to pull both channels of audio off a miniDV capture?

I did some recording over the weekend, with both channels on one source, but at different levels, or with two different sources going into each channel and I want to be able to adjust the level of each channel independently in Premiere.

The second audio track isn't hidden on the stereo AVI file and we just can see it, right? Sorry, I'm not really an editor, but I've got some big projects which I would Like to edit Myself.

Is it easy to synch the second audio track (the wave file) to the video in Premiere 6.5 if I capture with Scenalyzer?

<<<-- Originally posted by Pete Bauer : There's a section in the PPro manual / help that goes into a little more detail, but basically just have XP, PPro, and you project files on your C Drive and use a separate drive (ie, D Drive) for capture and scratch files. Regular defragging and not letting them get close to full does make a difference. -->>>

I agree with this completely. I did this and it did help the 'snappy-ness' of premiere. However, my processor being as slow as it is, it did not allow me to do any more realtime things within premiere, as these are not hampered by hard drive accessibility.

I guess the only thing to really do is push your processor and ram to the absolute maximums available or buyable with your budget.

--Which is about nowhere with my budget. ;) --

anyone???

Hi Peter,

I have not really played around with 5.1 in Premiere. But I think that all the audio panning and mixing of 5.1 tracks is done via the audio mixer, and not done in the timeline.

Try looking in the help file. Search for 5.1 and there is a chapter about applying pan or balance settings that will help you.

I hope to work with 5.1 in the future, but as yet I have not needed to use it.

Hope this helps a little.

I am getting a new computer and I just also bought Premiere Pro 1.5. I understand that hyper threathing can cause problems for Premiere Pro?
Should I not get hyper threathing on my new computer?
I am getting 2 G of ram, 3 hard drives @7200 rpm,
128 Meg video card
P4 3.0 cpu
Any suggestions about what is good and bad for running Permiere Pro 1.5

Thank you

There's a simple workaround for an SP2 issue:

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/330380.html

I use a 3.00 GHz P4 with 2GB DDR on an ASUS i875-based motherboard. PPro works very nicely with that hyperthreading system. Renaming a file as outlined in the Adobe document solved the Adobe Media encoder issue for me.

BTW, multiple physical hard drives is a big plus, so you should do well with your system.

Cheers,

Hi. I recently captured some footage and when I play it in adobe, only like the first 2-4 minutes I get audio, then the rest of the footage I don't hear anything. I can play the captured footage on other editing software (demo for vegas...pinnacle) and I can hear it fine, playing it in windows media & quicktime also works fine, it's just when I play it in adobe I get audio for a few minutes then nothing...

Anyone here ever had that problem? What did you do to fix it? I feel like I did everything I could in the preferences-audio and whatnot, I seriously need some help :( , thanks in advance.

Hi Jay,

What version of Premiere are you using?
What is your system harware/ software specs?

If you are using Premirer 6.5 you can try resetting the preferences file. I think its SHIFT+CTRL while opening Premiere to reset everything to default.

If you have Premiere Pro you might need to wait for it to conform the audio.

Cheers,

thanks for that..

im lookin at jumping ship permanently to PremPro with either an RTx100 or Axio soon, and by what ive seen with Prem's 5.1, its seems very tedious.... so i might jsut do the project and do the audio in Vegas... least with a MAtrox i dont have to render for 20 bloody hours..

I'm using adobe premiere pro... I have a 2.6ghz, P4, 768ram. How do I conform the audio? Is it something it does automatically?

I edit the DVDs I own for private viewing to remove objectionable content and make them family-friendly similar to what commercial vendors like "Cleanflix" do. However, after ripping and converting to AVI using Decryptor, DVDshrink and FlashMpeg and importing into Premiere the 5.1 quality of the audio is reduced to stereo. Can someone advise me how to keep the audio at 5.1?

Hi Jay,

Conforming audio happens automatically -- in fact, you can't stop it if you want to, which some people take offense to. You're on the low side for RAM (acceptable, for sure, but on the low side)...it may be that conforming is taking a while for a long clip. As a simple test, try loading up the file in PPro and go do something else for a short while. Then see if the audio is behaving or not.

BTW, file conforming was something Adobe worked on between PPro 1.0 and 1.5. Which version are you using? 1.0 would not let you start working on a file until conforming was complete, whereas 1.5 will let you do it if you want to accept the performance hit of editing while the conforming is going on.

Other stuff to check: best to have scratch disks, including conformed files, on a separate physical hard drive (such as a D Drive) from XP, PPro, and your project files, all of which would normally reside on your C Drive. If your drive is getting full or fragmented, that'll kill performance in PPro. Make sure DMA is enabled for your IDE Channels. Especially since you're on the low side with RAM, make sure no other apps are running. Maybe one of these tips will, uh, tip the balance in your favor. Let us know!

I recently switched over from Premiere 6.5 to Premiere Pro and one problem I have with it is with the audio.

Bascially while I edit the video and play it on the timeline, the audio is fine. But when I export the finished project and watch it under Windows Media Player, I can hear the static and cracking sounds from the audio.

What I had to do was go back to Premiere and turn the audio down, but this was annoying because I had to turn the audio down, export as a Movie, and watch it under Windows Media to see if the static/cracking noises persisted. If the static noise was still there I had to do the same process. In the end, the audio turns out more quiet than other videos I watch under Windows Media.

Why am I having such problems? I never had it when I used Premiere 6.5. And the origianl audio the camera recorded was not distorted at all.

Any help would be appreciated.

That might be the problem, when I load up my footage (which is an hour long at 13.2gigs), I usually just can hear the first minute or so...then nothing, then I get pissed and shut Premiere down...that could possibly be the problem. I'll load up Premiere, then my project and let it go overnight, it could possibly work...thanks!

By the way,

Premiere Pro tells it is conforming with a status bar on the very bottom right hand side. If the video is an hour long I think you could expect a 2-3 minute conforming process. Maybe as much as 5.

Supposedly this conforming allows premiere to create a higher quality audio editing enviroment.

Yep, that was the problem, thanks guys!

Glad to hear it!

I should add that what's happening is any audio that isn't 32-bit quality is conformed to that for use within the program. This is done to give some "overhead" for processing audio and still having high quality output.

PPro saves the conformed audio files in a scratch folder unless it doesn't have the room on disk to do so. As long as it can save the scratch files, it won't have to conform again; if it can't save the files, or you change the location of files, then it will conform again next time you open the original file.

So creating your folder structure as mentioned earlier and leaving everything set up the same way will really go a long way to minimize the pain of conforming audio.

^^^Thx for the tip.

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : thanks for that..

im lookin at jumping ship permanently to PremPro with either an RTx100 or Axio soon, and by what ive seen with Prem's 5.1, its seems very tedious.... so i might jsut do the project and do the audio in Vegas... least with a MAtrox i dont have to render for 20 bloody hours.. -->>>

Peter, why are you looking to jump ship on Vegas?

rendering mainly.. no other reason really.. Vegas is probably one of, if not THE most advanced software tools out there.. when compared to Prem on its own.. i can work 3 times faster.. then i get hit in the head with the rendering.. :(

i dont like the idea of having my HDDs, which hold numerous projects at a time, running the risk of a HDD failure. even with a mirrored drive, the risk is just too high

I like the program... hell iof Vegas could be used with a Matrox RTx100, it would be the bees knees.. but i seriously need a realtime option for the kind of work i do.. and 25hr renders just arent an option anymore....

I'm preediting a documentary on my PC with Preimere Pro. In about a week, I'll need to move over to a Final Cut Pro HD system to do color corrections, tighten up the edit, ect. Moving machines is neccesary.

Is there a way to export an EDL to a file that Final Cut Pro will read and batch capture? What are my options here...whats the best way to do this. Thanks,

Rick

If the EDL doesn't work, try Automatic Duck.

http://www.automaticduck.com/

It may or may not translate all the complex parts of the Premiere Pro project to Final Cut, so research that beforehand or stick to simple stuff in Premiere (i.e. cuts and dissolves with placeholder titles).

I have Pinnacle Liquid Edition and Adobe Premiere 6.5. i am purchasing a Panasonic DVX100A and am switching to Vegas. I've downloaded the demo and love the stability and workflow so far.

Editions 5.1 is a joke.. no seriosuly.. ive tested it extensively to se what benefits it offers over any other app (i sell this stuff) i dont like the idea of not seeing my video when creating a surround pan..

even though Liquid is using a licensed encoder, it still doesnt cut it with true to form live work..

VST plugins are good, but i can run VSTs in Vegas with Amulet (a VST to DX adapter)

ive been tryin to get into Prems 5.1, but its pretty useless considering that u cant access this if workin on a matrox rtx100 based project..

Axio seems liek a good system, but i still dotn see any 5.1 support.. im not expecting a hardar DD encoder, but i was expecting at least, audio to go through the soundcards surround mixer.. with an NLE interface (like vegas) and with ASIO driver, latency should be non existant or barely noticable at least..

i wonder when Matrox are gettin off their butts to get AXIO out..
Ive got a stinky old digisuite here waiting to be upgraded..

"i wonder when Matrox are gettin off their butts to get AXIO out.. "

The word on the street is pretty soon! They said at IBC that it should arrive in the first quarter of 2005. However what matrox say sometimes should be taken with a pinch of salt...

Its a shame that Matrox did not write any drivers for the digisuite range to run PP. But the good thing is that when AXIO is released you should get a pretty good discount if you have a digisuite card!

Cheers,

Premiere Pro should be able to export pretty much any industry standard edl list, and FCP should be able to read them.

I would do some research. First find out what FCP can acccept and then see if PP can write to those files.

Are there any plugins for Premiere 6.5?

Are these plugins for free or fee based?