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James Darren July 4th, 2005, 07:29 AM hi,
No I cant playback any audio, not even an audio CD in windows media player. In control/audio it says theres no playback device. I have an Intel 915pgnl which I assume has built in audio hardware. I downloaded an audio driver from intel but still not working...
David Schamis July 4th, 2005, 07:55 PM I know that Encore 1.5.1 works with dual-layer DVDs, but does PremPro 1.5.1 allow you to burn directly to a dual-layer DVD?
I have tried and I can't seem to make it work.
David
Jimmy McKenzie July 4th, 2005, 08:21 PM Notice that there is a disk analysis window in Encore because it is a complete dvd authoring program where Premiere is best left to it's devices as an NLE. Premiere and after effects have their place in the work flow as does Encore and each should be used for their intended use especially when dealing with expanded functionality as you have described.
Brian Handler July 5th, 2005, 07:12 AM Is the onboard audio turned on via bios?
Henry Cho July 5th, 2005, 09:20 AM yeah... as brian said, as long as you installed the correct driver, there's no reason your on-board audio shouldn't be working unless your audio is turned off in your bios.
before you do that, make sure to check your control panel's device manager to see if there's any audio hardware being recognized. if you don't see your audio hardware in there, it's turned off in your bios (or broken). if you DO see your audio hardware with a warning flag (question mark or exclamation point -- i forget which one it uses), your driver is not installed properly.
Chris J Martin July 6th, 2005, 09:23 AM Hello everyone
Is there anyway to remove a watermark or logo off a piece of footage. It remains in a fixed position throughout the clip. I have after effects 6.0 and adobe premiere pro 7
Thankyou
Chris
George Odell July 6th, 2005, 09:56 AM There are a couple of filters available for VirtualDub that allow you to remove or at least reduce the level of a stationary logo.
Jimmy McKenzie July 6th, 2005, 10:00 AM You can paint on the frame. There are a few options to have this persist, but if the underlying video is constantly changing, you have a pile of work ahead of you.
If the logo or bug is small and you are in a 4x3 environment, perhaps you can drop on top your 16x9 bars overtop on a layer in Premiere...
Steven Gotz July 6th, 2005, 10:15 AM Cover it with your own logo?
It is difficult for the software to show what is not there.
Brian Handler July 6th, 2005, 10:22 AM It's freakishly hard.
If the video is somewhat static I could see you doing some "stamp" tooling on it, but I highly doubt that would work.
Generally I put my own bug or watermark over the existing one and call it a day.
Chris J Martin July 6th, 2005, 11:45 AM Thanks everyone for the prompt responses.
Had a look at that virtualdub but it will not allow you to import a wmv file (microsoft legalities I think) so that sort of leaves me stuck. Has anyone heard of any plugins for after effects ? Premiere pro is my choice but I know that Pinnacle studio has a plug in called logoaway that does the job nicely.
I may have to resort to cropping the piece off above the logo, thats going to lose the bottom fifth of the capture; but hey its an artsy/wierd piece anyway so I will just have to try and be inventive unless I can tap into your brains again and anyone can think of anything else.
Thanks again
Chris
Ed Smith July 6th, 2005, 11:49 AM Hi Harry,
It pretty easy to do. As soon as you start to use Photoshop you'll probably understand it better.
This is what I would do:
Create a new 'canvas' to the size you wish, that will allow you to fit the images you want all on one page.
Open up 1 image you wish to use, and then use the move tool and drag it onto the new 'canvas' you created first of all. Repeat for the other images you want to use.
Each image will appear as a separate layer in you new canvas. Simply move each one into the position you want.
Save file as a PSD (photoshop file) and open in Premiere.
Hope this helps,
Brian Handler July 6th, 2005, 12:19 PM If it's artsy why don't you make spikey cool letterbox borders at the top and bottom with photoshop and just alpha the center. Then you can say it's bordered for an effect.
Jimmy McKenzie July 6th, 2005, 12:26 PM Agreed with Brian.
Then add some frame jitter and film projector messiness with hair and scratches and that'll sure be abstract/artsy. Then you can animate the motion path of some alpha objects to have moving reveal of the underlying track ... etc....etc....
Harry Lender July 6th, 2005, 04:50 PM Ed
Thanks for your reply. I did manage to find out how to do and it was like you said. I was easy. Thanks again.
Harry
Matthew Weitz July 7th, 2005, 10:33 AM I noticed an option in Photoshop that would allow me to adjust the pixel aspect ratio of the pictures.
Should I convert them to .9 before importing them into Premiere? Would that help?
Doug Boze July 7th, 2005, 04:38 PM This is weird, but PPro slows my mouse movement way, way down. I'm using a Logitech Trackman Marble, with Logitech's driver under XP Pro, and it zips all over the place just the way I like it to. But inside PPro, it's spin, spin, spin that ball to get the pointer where it needs to go. This is especially annoying with dual displays. Any ideas?
Doug Boze July 7th, 2005, 04:42 PM I discovered that having the capture window in the second monitor will not display the video from the source VTR, just a blank window. Dragging it to the left monitor and hey, presto! there's the live video from the tape. I suspect this has something to do with the video card? It's a Matrox G550 dual head. Odd thing is that the monitor windows do work in the second, right-hand display.
Henry Cho July 7th, 2005, 07:23 PM many consumer dualhead video cards do NOT support video overlay to 2 monitors. the only fix i'm aware of is to put all your video windows on monitor 1 (the monitor connected to port 1 of your video card, not your windows-defined primary monitor -- in your case, monitor 2).
Henry Cho July 7th, 2005, 07:24 PM that is odd. did you check your mouse control panel and see if anything changes when you launch premiere pro?
Henry Cho July 7th, 2005, 07:28 PM yes, the .9 pixel aspect ratio is a new feature of photoshop cs.
personally, i find working in the .9 pixel aspect ratio in photoshop a little wierd. i guess when working with images only, it' cool... it just does a lot of funny things to type -- jagged edges, etc.
you can work with either or... the way i suggested above is a comfortable way for me.
Doug Boze July 8th, 2005, 03:42 AM I haven't checked that, since the mouse behaved normally in all other apps and the system outside of PPro. Then a while ago I made an even more bizarre discovery: I had set the system to power down the monitors after 15 minutes of inactivity, which it did. Upon moving the trackball to get them on again, I noticed that the speed of the mouse is as I had intended within PPro! Really, this is weird. On another machine, after playing a game that uses DirectX, the same method of powering down the monitor is disabled, softly. I say softly, because the settings are not changed. They are exactly correct. It just ceases to work until such time as I look at the settings and it works again as planned. What in the world is Premiere (and BTW, earlier versions did the same) doing vis-a-vis the mouse to screw it up? And why does power saving restore it?
Ken E. Williams July 8th, 2005, 09:01 AM On the PPro timeline I have about 30 still photos (each 26MB PSDs) that are linked by simple dissolve transitions. Each 15 second clip has some changing motion and scaling applied via the Effect Control Window. The problem is that a few of the clips have, or cause, bad rendering. Symptoms are that the rendering may quit early; the resultant preview is a green screen; and some of the video preview files are created with a size of 0 bytes.
The system has 20+ GB of free defragmented space on each drive. The project uses the default DV NTSC D1 settings.
I have recreated the clips using the same photo and applied new motion & scale key frames [only start and end key frames]. This didn’t give any improvement. Sometimes deleting the most recent few video preview files and re-rendering gives a good rendering of the clip. I’m looking for a consistent workaround or fix.
Does anyone have a solution or idea about this problem?
Thanks,
Ken W.
Joshua Provost July 8th, 2005, 09:38 AM Ken,
Try deleting the Preview File directory from disk, and launching the project again. Sometimes those files get corrupted. Also, try an actual render out, Export > Movie to a good format and see if the results are what you want. I've never fully trusted Premiere's preview feature.
Peter Ferling July 8th, 2005, 12:39 PM The best workflow:
1. Make a copy of images to a seperate folder for your project.
2. Make a an action in Photoshop to down convert your images to the NTSC spec and do a batch on the folder.
3. Important and edit in premiere. Even if you plan to pan and zoom, use the low rez files as proxies to keep things moving along in realtime.
4. Note which images require high-rez, and then replace them in you image folder prior to final render.
Rob Williams July 8th, 2005, 01:39 PM I have experienced the same thing. What DPI are your stills? I have seen this happen when I have had stills with a 600 DPI setting. When I reduced these to either 150 or 300 DPI the symptom went away.
Ken E. Williams July 8th, 2005, 01:48 PM Thank you both for your fast and helpful replies. It's great to have some ideas to try tonight.
Joshua:
I'll delete the Preview directory and try an actual render out (Export > Movie)
Rob:
That's interesting. These are big picture files. I'll reduce the photo's dpi. Perhaps that is why only some pictures have rendering problems. Similarly, I'll check if the problem pictures have been sharpened.
Thanks!
Ken W.
Rob Williams July 8th, 2005, 01:56 PM I had previously tried deleting the pre-rendered files and also exporting to AVI but I still had the green screens. I doubt that any photo enhancing you have done will cause this (it never mattered on mine). I also found that while the project would render fine at first (with high DPI images), it would eventually start this symptom as the project size grew (in numbers of photos). I also tried importing the assets as JPG instead of PSD files and no change. But if I lowered the DPI (in either JPG or PSD) formats, everything worked.
I can't explain why this happens I only know if I lower the DPI of the stills, the problem never comes back.
Ken E. Williams July 8th, 2005, 02:15 PM Thanks Rob.
>I also found that while the project would render fine at first (with high DPI images), it would eventually start this symptom as the project size grew (in numbers of photos).
Yes, this is exactly what I'm seeing!
It's great to see that someone else has seen these strange symptoms and already has a fix. Excellent!
Miguel Lombana July 8th, 2005, 06:55 PM Has anyone (or is anyone) used one of the Dell Power Edge Servers for Premier? I'm seeing where these boxes are on sale this week for about 1k with 2 XEON 3.0 processors and a ton of other upgrades.
I spoke with Dell and they advised me that the PE1800 is a hot box but they don't support things like an AGP slot eventhough it has one. Not sure if I can add a video card in via PCIe or what other limitations I may have by running a box like this.
Would appreciate any advice, I'm looking to upgrade from my single processor 2.8gHT chipset box to something a little more extreme to save render times etc, but need to make sure from someone with experience on these units that it will do what I need rather than having to get up-sold by Dell to a 2000+ dollar workstation.
THanks in advance,
MIGUEL
Brian Handler July 8th, 2005, 09:34 PM Not like you'll not have a responce by monday, but I'll ask my manger. He is using that exact box for editing..also has a matrox card in it...but i'll ask him how it was before that.
Doug Boze July 9th, 2005, 04:21 PM In the mouse properties under the motion tab, unselect "disable acceleration in games" and that will fix it. Apparently PPro is a game...
Henry Cho July 9th, 2005, 08:20 PM that is really interesting. i wondered why directx 9 was a mandatory install with premiere pro. prior versions mandated a specific version of directx in it's system requirements, but i don't ever remember it self-installing with the main application. i'm guessing premiere pro's updated engine relies pretty heavily on directx acceleration -- which is why your mouse thinks it's a game :). good to know. thanks...
Brent Ray July 10th, 2005, 10:40 AM I had that exact same problem, and solved it the exact same way. I think because Premiere is such a resource-heavy application, your system thinks it's a game. Glad you solved your own problem though.
Miguel Lombana July 11th, 2005, 12:55 PM Not like you'll not have a responce by monday, but I'll ask my manger. He is using that exact box for editing..also has a matrox card in it...but i'll ask him how it was before that.
Brian I would really appreciate that, seriously thanks!
Allen Lu July 11th, 2005, 04:10 PM The similar problem I had with the GR HD1 was that the IEEE handshake was not correctly done. Premiere 1.5.1 never saw the cam and thought it was alrways offline. I just unplugged the IEEE cable and plugged it back in.
Maybe the green screen is actually playing something, just too dark to see. Does teh JVC HD capture get anything in the mt2 files? (need to use remuxTS) to convert from transport stream before you can view them on a PC media player.
Brian Handler July 12th, 2005, 09:13 AM He has the computer at home for editing. He says he's replaced the mobo so it was compatiable with the matrox card...but he said it was pretty blazing before the upgrade though. The dual processors def helped cut down render times.
He said his AGP port worked after he reflashed the bios.
Look into that.
Miguel Lombana July 12th, 2005, 09:41 AM He has the computer at home for editing. He says he's replaced the mobo so it was compatiable with the matrox card...but he said it was pretty blazing before the upgrade though. The dual processors def helped cut down render times.
He said his AGP port worked after he reflashed the bios.
Look into that.
Well I guess than I have a major question, it was a DELL PE1800 but he replaced the MOBO, so what is it now? Is it still an 1800 with a new stock MOBO and if so what happened to the original MOBO? Or, what it that he modded the MOBO in order to allow the AGP card to fit?
My understanding is that Dell takes the AGP slot and adds 2 shims so that you can't place a card in the slot, kinda like a restricter. I've seen on another forum where guys are using hot knives to slice the shims out to allow the AGP cards to fit. If you can find out if this is what he meant. Then I know that I can start to make an order.
Miguel
Brian Handler July 12th, 2005, 10:23 AM lol, hes gone for 2 days now so I'll ask when he gets back
Ken E. Williams July 12th, 2005, 12:39 PM Thanks Rob & Joshua.
Deleting the preview folder did help. However I hit the 'Green Screen' problem again soon. Using Rob's idea, I halved the picture sizes. Since then I have double the number of stills on the timeline without any errors.
Thanks for your useful help guys! DVinfo is great!
Ken W.
Dan Mumford July 13th, 2005, 12:54 AM Has anyone else had this problem? In Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and Encore 1.5, neither one recognizes Photoshop CS. I tried to "Edit in Photoshop" from Encore but I get a message that "It does not appear that Photoshop is installed." Trust me, it is. I spent 12 hous learning how to make a cool menu in PS and imported it to Encore, but can't export the same file.
Premiere Pro has Photoshop greyed out from the "New> Photoshop file menu.
Any suggestions?
Dan
Henry Cho July 13th, 2005, 02:33 AM i believe this has to do with the order of installation. if you installed photoshop AFTER you installed premiere, premiere won't see photoshop. this also happens with other apps in the adobe suite of tools, like audition and encore... someone else might be able to clarify the correct order of install for all these apps to work in harmony.
Dan Mumford July 13th, 2005, 05:38 AM That would make sense. I bought Photoshop after the Video collection. I guess I have to remove Encore and PPro and reinstall them. I hope I don't have to go into the registry. I'd hate to have to find all the Adobe instances and figure out which ones need changing.
Thanks,
Dan
Kyle Edwards July 13th, 2005, 01:32 PM Is it CS 1 or 2?
Dan Mumford July 13th, 2005, 01:37 PM CS 1
Dan
Wes Coughlin July 13th, 2005, 08:55 PM Im most likley retarded, but whenever i export a 16:9 frame, and try placing it back into a timline, its in 4:3 format. I make sure all the exporting settings are correct, and the summary concurs with the export settings; its just premiere pro (1.5) is picking the frames to be 4:3 not 16:9. I double check by importing into photoshop, and the frames are in 16:9, like their appose to be. Anyone suggestions???
Scott Lovejoy July 13th, 2005, 09:19 PM Dan -
Have you tried just making a menu in Photoshop and opening it in Encore after you've finished it?
It's kind of a way around it, and saves you from uninstalling/reinstalling, unless you need to do something more with it.
Dan Mumford July 14th, 2005, 07:44 AM I made the menu in PS and imported to Encore as a menu. However, to make a modification, while saving the original Encore file, I need to "edit in Photoshop," otherwise I have to create a new file. (Encore will send PS a copy of the file and after making the changes, they are updated in the original.) I'm just going to reinstall Encore and PPro, so they will see Photoshop. The thing is, I think I knew this because when I first got the Collection, someone told me to install After Effects first for the same reason. (It's funny what you remember when it's too late!)
Dan
Dan Mumford July 14th, 2005, 08:19 PM Just in case someone else does a search for the same problem, here is the solution. After doing a reinstall of Encore without success, I called Adobe. After some discussion, he told me to uninstall Photoshop. I did the unistall and checked the C:\program files\adobe\... for Photoshop to make sure it was gone. I did an install and guess what? It works!
Dan
Peter Robert July 15th, 2005, 06:38 AM I recently boought a Sony Z1 HDV. I start to think about the editing process by using PC.
I always use Vegas 5.0 to edit the footage shot by JVC HD camcoder. Vegas is able to edit and then export mpeg2.ts file which could be exported to D-VHS by other software as long as the data rate closed to 18.3 MB.
Basically, I could do the same to the footage shot by Z1 and I am able to export to D-VHS.
But I want to try Premiere Pro1.5. Importing the footage to the timeline seems to be fine. Then I check the functon of Premiere encoder which is a Mainconcept encoder, I find out that the max data rate is 15 MB. I think the video quality may be worse than that of Vegas. And I don't know whether Premiere can export ts file which is a must if I need to put it back to D-VHS.
If I need to buy other plug-in software to Premiere to achieve what Vegas could do for me, then I will stick to Vegas.
Do you have any suggestions?
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