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Eric Holloway
June 12th, 2005, 07:31 PM
I'm using adobe premiere pro 1.5
windows xp, service pack 1
2 gigs of ram
2 striped 240 gig raids
3.4ghz
Matrox Parhelia APVe
Matrox RTX.100 Extreme Pro

Now, I've created a sequence (sequence 1) with disolves from one scene to the next. When playing it on the timeline, it plays smooth..

BUT, when I create a new sequence (let's call it sequence 2), and add sequence 1 to it, the video on sequence 2 plays smooth until it gets to a transition (disolve). It kind of studders for a second (maybe 1 frame) and then continues on through the disolve smoothly.

It doesn't need to be rendered and when exporting to dvd, it plays the same when when I nest a sequence... Smooth until it gets to the transition, then studders for a frame, and the continues on smoothly until it gets to the next transition... and so on and so on...

Has anyone experienced this behavior? I'm kind of thinking it has something to do with the matrox cards. On my other computer system, AMD 3200+ with 1 gig of ram, I can nest sequences and it performs perfect...

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Eric

Adam Kampia
June 12th, 2005, 08:24 PM
You mention exporting to DVD. Have you tested an export to plain old AVI?

I too had this problem, but never after exporting. I'd have to do some testing, but I think the problem also went away one or two RTX100 driver build updates ago. Have you updated your Matrox drivers lately?

Also check the Matrox forums. Matrox tech support is not stellar, but I've had a lot of help from other users on the forum.

For a workaround in the meantime, you can import your MTX project into a new standard PPro project. Then export. Yeah, rendering. Sometimes we can't avoid it.

Linda Walker
June 13th, 2005, 06:25 AM
Thanks everyone for your great replies to my question. They are very helpful. I am still new to Premiere Pro so it is great to have people that are willing to give of their time and knowledge to help people like me. I really appreciate it.

Nate

In Premiere Pro, use the shadow feature to add the glow. Use the color wht, use the angle to place the shadow directly behind the text, then use the spread ( I think that's what it's called) to "spread out" the shadow. This will give it a feathered look.

Good Luck.

Linda Walker
June 13th, 2005, 06:40 AM
I currently am using the Matrox RTX100 with Premiere Pro 1.5. I placed a 24p clip in the timeline but am unable to view this clip on my tv monitor. So my question is: can you use 24p footage in Premiere Pro while using the Matrox?

Thanks.

Linda

Gary Bettan
June 13th, 2005, 07:22 AM
Sorry, RTX100 does not support 24p. There are no plans to add 24p support.

gary

Eric Holloway
June 13th, 2005, 11:40 AM
It does this on the timeline and will do it when I export to any format.

I don't have hotfix 1 or 2 installed so maybe that might be the problem... I'll have to try and install hotfix 2 tonight and see what happens...

Eric

Richard Lewis
June 13th, 2005, 03:44 PM
I have the exact same intermittent problem using the Matrox RTX100.
I'm afraid that I haven’t found a fix either.

Sorry to hear someone else is having problems too.

Matthew Weitz
June 13th, 2005, 04:39 PM
The NTSC size will cut down on rendering, provided that your images are only 72ppi. If they are more (150, 300), then you might as well nto have resized them.

You're saying that if my original pictures were ~ 72 ppi I should resize them, but if they are around 150 or 300 ppi I shouldn't? Why is that?

Either way, you can just check the box in Project settings-> General to "scale clips to project dimensions" and you don't need to do any resizing prior to import. (Just re-import your stills if they are already in Premiere).

I assume that it will fill the rest of the area behind the picture with a black screen?

Thanks for responding so quickly! :)

Eric Holloway
June 13th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Have you updated your Matrox drivers lately?


Can you do me a favor and check your driver date and version in your systems hardware config for your matrox rtx.100 card?

Thanks,

Eric

Jimmy McKenzie
June 13th, 2005, 08:05 PM
Here's the diagnostic test. Try your project with no hardware support. I have been working for over a year now with no 3rd party real-time card. I have yet to find a reason to go back. O.K. once in while the really neat page curls I am without can be inticing, but then I think about the creative muscle I have since installing AFX and I wake up.
So far I have nested 4 layers deep with no affect on the final output.

David Yuen
June 13th, 2005, 11:55 PM
http://news.com.com/Adobe+flaw+puts+PCs+at+risk/2100-1002_3-5744677.html?tag=cd.lede

A flaw in several of Adobe Systems' popular graphics design applications could expose users to hacker attacks, the software maker has warned.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2955

This update addresses a potential vulnerability in the Adobe License Management Service, which is installed with various Adobe products that require product activation. It affects only computers running Windows®. Note that Adobe is not aware of any report of malicious code that exploits this vulnerability, but Adobe wants to be proactive by providing users with a simple mechanism to protect their systems.

Pete Bauer
June 14th, 2005, 06:23 AM
David,
Thanks for posting this; I had just cruised Adobe's site this weekend and didn't run into this. ALL of us who use any Adobe application that requires Product Activation (including Photoshop CS and PPro) need to run this patch!

Roger Averdahl
June 14th, 2005, 07:27 AM
Eric, i think your solution is:

In PPro, go to Project > Project Settings > Video Rendering and uncheck Optimize Stills.

When you are exporting to avi make sure to uncheck Optimize Stills as well.

/Roger

Pat Sherman
June 14th, 2005, 08:16 AM
I would check out the forums for the RT.X100
http://forum.matrox.com/cgi-bin/rtx100/ultimatebb.cgi

Some users have been able to fake it and trick the matrox preset to doing 24p or something along those lines.. I would search their for more information. But Gary is right, it doesn't support 24p.

Pat Sherman
June 14th, 2005, 08:19 AM
Ed pretty much covered everything..

basically if you have alot of fades or other action sequences the higher bitrate is needed, I believe I read somewhere if you have a black screen with simple white title it only needs .5Mb for good quality.. So VBR will go through your video twice and select the best bitrates for each scene.

Adam Kampia
June 14th, 2005, 09:44 AM
What really made me take this seriously is the fact that Adobe actually admitted a flaw.

They didn't try to pass it off as a "feature enhancement" that needed to be "optimized" by this patch.

Must be very bad indeed.

Derek Brameyer
June 14th, 2005, 12:41 PM
Hey all,

I'm using Adobe After Effects 6.0 to do some "cloning," and it seems that whenever I see the video, there is a noticeable amount of pixelation. This is especially apparent when I add it to a Premiere timeline with other non-edited film. Is this normal for AE? The pixelation is small, and would be overlooked normally, but upon closer inspection it is easily seen. I'm doing cloning with raw .avi footage, and rendering in a lossless format, and in both the previews and the renders, the pixelation is there. I'm just wondering what the cause of the pixelation is and how I can fix it.

Thanks!

-Derek

Steven White
June 14th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Are you rendering using "Draft" settings perhaps? (as opposed to "Best")

-Steve

Clarence Walker
June 15th, 2005, 10:48 AM
I just purchased PPro and was saddened to discover the lack of fancy fonts (most look the same). Specifically I'm looking for ones used on wedding titles that look like caligraphy/handwriting.

Is there software with additional fonts that can be added to the PPro title designer (or is Photoshop the answer), or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.

K. Forman
June 15th, 2005, 12:46 PM
You can go online, and search for fonts... And that is where the fun really begins! Most programs will use fonts already installed, so just start looking at the millions of sites that have fonts, and download a few you like.

Aanarav Sareen
June 15th, 2005, 01:46 PM
You can go online, and search for fonts... And that is where the fun really begins! Most programs will use fonts already installed, so just start looking at the millions of sites that have fonts, and download a few you like.
Agreed! Take a look at http://www.dafont.com.

K. Forman
June 15th, 2005, 02:49 PM
Should I warn him, he is about to enter "pop-up Hell"?

Derek Brameyer
June 15th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Nope..."Best" Settings and "Lossless" Output (with audio added). The pixelation is bugging me now, and I don't know why it's happening. It's completely different with Premiere...looks like a normal .avi. But footage in AE looks terribly pixelated, even when I just import it into a composition, no effects. I just noticed it since I started working with Premiere. Anyone know what the problem is?

Clarence Walker
June 15th, 2005, 05:05 PM
Thanks Aanarav and Keith:

Just loaded the fonts onto a CD here at work. Now I'm going to try to load them into Premiere at home.

Can't believe it's that simple. Will let know how it works tomorrow.

Clarence

Jim Gunn
June 15th, 2005, 08:31 PM
Understood with regard to scenealyzer and it's capabilities. The reason for not wishing to use a 3rd party capture is to maintain the integrity of the backup and long term storage of an offline file and use the source tape as a part of that equation.


I use Scenalyzer Live to capture dv footage and it is a GREAT- even superior- tool for making backups of source footage of my projects and for long term storage. As a matter of fact it has the ability to save the exact file names of your multiple captured dv avi clips so you can easily reconstitute your Premiere Pro projects as long as you save the project files and misc. graphics & titles along with the source footage on mini-dv.

Webb Pickersgill
June 15th, 2005, 10:47 PM
I agree with you Derek, I have noticed the same thing... but I thought it was just me. I still haven't figured it out, so any insight that someone can provide would be helpful.

My only thought is that I'm taking the 4:3 image I captured with an XL1s and upscaling it 135% to fit in the 16:9 frame then rendering it out. It might be the upscaling that's doing it. You wouldn't happen to be doing something similar would you? I haven't tried a straight 4:3 to 4:3 output to see if that pixelates too.

Kin Kwan
June 16th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Is your footage interlaced? If so, check to see if your footage is only interpreted bottom field only. I think that's what it's called, I don't have AfterFX on this computer right now. In your composition, right click on your footage > interpret footage > fields (make sure it's showing both fields). Hope this helps a bit.

Steven White
June 16th, 2005, 07:26 AM
Yeah, if the footage is interlaced After Effects almost always separates the fields. You could be seeing a vertical resolution drop by nearly a factor of 2, especially if you're not doing the deinterlace with best quality settings.

Furthermore, blowing up a 4:3 XL1s frame to 16:9 anamorphic frame will only decrease image quality. You'd be better off to just letterbox the 4:3 image.
-Steve

Markus Klatt
June 16th, 2005, 02:01 PM
Hi there,

which filter in Adobe Premiere 6.5 (or PP 1.5) must I apply to a DV-video, when I want to correct the color temp. a little?

Say, I filmed with outdoor WB which is Celvin 5500°. When I now need a correction to say 4500° to 4800° - which is the correct filter to use to achieve this with best results and smallest quality loss / noise?

The Color Balance Filter HLS?
The Channel Mixer?
Or what?
With what settings, please?

BTW - I use it for night skys with fireworks. I have my correct WB in Canon and Sony cam stored but sometimes I need to adjust these a little, when they become a little to cold or warm...

Thanks in advance,
regards
Markus

Derek Brameyer
June 16th, 2005, 06:05 PM
Thanks a lot! That did it!

Kin Kwan
June 16th, 2005, 11:18 PM
No problem, man.

Rob Lohman
June 17th, 2005, 02:43 AM
The best thing to do is to experiment. Not everyone likes the same approach.
Unfortunately I do not use Premiere, but my guess would be to start out with
the Color Balance filter. It should allow you to shift the hue (color). Change it
till it looks "okay" to you.

Most serious NLE's today have good correction tools that may even include
white balancing tools (or a way to do this with your program. Just do a google
search like this: "Premiere Pro" "white balance")

Ray Van Eng
June 17th, 2005, 11:13 PM
The saved DV file is in 4:3 not 16:9 though. Any way to correct that? Also, I presume choosing None in codec results in better quality or less lose in subsequent ediitng or rendering? true?

Btw, I don't have Aspect HD in my PC and wonder if it is possible to render that file in Cineform AVI inside PPro 1.51. I guess not.

Ray Van Eng
June 17th, 2005, 11:53 PM
I have PPro 1.51 and have imported m2t files from a JVC HD10U camcoder. After changing the file extension from m2t to mpg, I was able to view and edit the HDV footage. But the audio was gone however, been trying to find out how to correct that though.

Josh Woll
June 18th, 2005, 09:52 AM
One day Premiere is working fine and now I get this error message whenever I try to capture video. I've used two different camcorders and tried a different port through my firewire card. I've looked all around the preferences within Premiere and there is no lock feature for the scratch disk. I've also captured video through a different program. Anyone have any ideas please because I can't find this error message on the internet anywhere! Thank you so much.

Josh Woll
JW Productions

Josh Woll
June 18th, 2005, 10:52 AM
Nevermind about the post. For anyone interested, if this problem ever happens to you it's because my external drive was turned off and the location of where I had the scratch disk folder set on was not being recognized. I changed the location to my C:\ drive and everything works fine. Duh! Thank you

Ed Smith
June 18th, 2005, 02:08 PM
Thanks for letting us know Josh!

Its always the easy ones that give you the most trouble ;-)

Cheers,

Josh Woll
June 18th, 2005, 08:06 PM
No Problemo Ed,

Yeah, you would think after that error message Adobe could have included a short message saying "You should change the location of your scratch disk." Make it a WHOLE lot easier for us!

Best,

Josh

Chris Vaglio
June 18th, 2005, 09:36 PM
I have PP 1.5 and I have the DVX100A, When I tried to do slow motion, it is very stuttery and not smooth at all. I know that this is video, but even on my older systems the slow motion at least looked smooth. What am I doing wrong? Is it the shooting or the software? Just so you know, I have the Matrox RTX100X.

Thanks !!!!

Aanarav Sareen
June 19th, 2005, 12:06 AM
It really depends on how much you are reducing the speed to. But, if you have After Effects, I would do all (or most) of my slow-motion there using the Time Remapping fuction.

Rob Lohman
June 19th, 2005, 04:22 AM
You need to extract the audio from the MPEG first (with something like bbTools)
and load that separately. That should solve your problems.

Adam Kampia
June 19th, 2005, 06:23 AM
Ditto using AE. But if you must use Premiere, change the speed in "round" increments of 25%, 50%, 75%, 150%, etc., as opposed to 42.35% or whatever.

It does make a difference.

Anita Hu
June 20th, 2005, 01:12 PM
What is the best way to import VHS so that I can edit in Premiere? Do I need any special hardware?

My current thinking is VHS to TV and record TV with my Camera...but that seems like alot of work...so any input would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Boyd Ostroff
June 20th, 2005, 01:19 PM
Most of the better camcorders have "DV pass-through" which would allow you to connect your VHS deck directly to video inputs on the camera using either RCA plugs (composite video) or S-video. You will probably have to activate an option in the camera's menu for this - see your owners manual.

Just be aware that VHS quality is very poor and it will look way inferior to most DV originated material. Also, if you're trying to get a commercial VHS tape into Premiere the pass-through approach probably won't work. These tapes contain a copy protection signal which the camera will recognize and refuse to transcode.

Now if you camera doesn't have the pass-through feature, there are some relatively inexpensive USB and Firewire boxes that will let you put composite or s-video into the computer. You should find a few of these at the big box stores like CompUSA, or you can buy them online.

Brian Handler
June 20th, 2005, 02:16 PM
I was cutting in a voice clip over a narration error and it errored out w/o a msg probably 15 times within a few minutes. I was gettign to the point that I'd adjust a keyframe and save and just repeating that process. It only happened on that project but it makes me nervous for the future.

Ming Dong
June 20th, 2005, 05:45 PM
I videotaped some interviews and am finding problems during post.

Some people spoke loud and clear, while others were soft and barely audible. Is there an easy way to equalize the audio of all the clips in the sequence?

During the videotaping session, the lighting changed. Is there an easy way to equalize the white balance of all the clips in the sequence?

Lastly, in some of the segments the Sun is shining on the floor. Is there a simple way to "clip" the brightest areas while not darkening the rest of the image?

Thanks!

ps. I'm using Premiere Pro 1.0

David Watson
June 20th, 2005, 09:15 PM
I am having a problem with my canon xl2 and premiere pro.The waveform is not visible on tracks I have captured to Premiere Pro 1.5 using my canon xl2. The waveform is visable on tracks I have captured using a sony handycam. What settings have I altered that are causing my problems. I have taken video that has been recorded on the canon and placed the tape in the sony and captured it to Premiere Pro but I still have no waveforms visible. I need to be able to view the waveforms in order to sync two videos.

Ed Smith
June 21st, 2005, 02:35 AM
Hi David,

A few silly things to llok out for:

1. is it still conforming the audio? if so it won't display a waveform until its done?

2. Have you zoomed in on the timeline?

3. Have you captured Audio?

This should have nothing to do with the XL2 tape, provided you did record some sound?

Cheers,

Rob Lohman
June 21st, 2005, 04:14 AM
If your camera does not support pass-through it may support something else.
Set the camera in VCR mode, connect the analog lines, hit record on the
camera and then play on the VHS. If you see picture on the camera all should
be well.

When done, stop everything. Rewind the tape and then capture the tape to
your computer in the normal way (the signal is now DV).

The only difference with pass-through is that you can do it without going
to tape first (which did not work on the Canon XL1S for example, while my
method above did work).

Otherwise you will need to look into:

1. analog capture cards (some TV cards can do this as well)

2. a DV deck with analog in/out

3. a analog <-> DV convertor like the Canopus ADVC range of products

Kevin Penhorwood
June 21st, 2005, 05:37 AM
I am using Premiere Pro 1.5 and one thing that I can not stand is when you render a timeline, once it completes the render, it automatically starts playing the timline from the beginning. Is there any way to turn this off. I have searched this forum and the software and can not find anything. Anyone else annoyed with this...is there a way to turn it off? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,