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Aanarav Sareen June 4th, 2005, 09:53 PM ok but i can still export as an .avi file then use another program like tmpgenc to encode to dvd?
Yes, you can. Download Adobe Encore DVD to transcode your AVI file to MPEG2.
Thomas Fraser June 5th, 2005, 12:28 AM What are the best settings to use when exporting direct to DVD with Preimere Pro 1.5. I am exporting 45 minutes clips shot with GL2.
Thank you
Dan Mumford June 5th, 2005, 10:36 AM Thomas,
I've never used PPro to do DVD, so I might not be able to help you. However, I do a lot of DVD using PPro to create my movie, then use Encore to make the actual DVD. I export to .avi from PPro for two reasons. One is to have an avi copy I can send back to tape for a back-up. Second is to let Encore do tha actual transcoding. I say Encore because I have the Adobe Collection, but you can use any DVD program. I know this doesn't answer your question, but it does show you a different option.
Dan
John C. Lyons June 6th, 2005, 01:12 PM I use the PPro 1.5 and Encore combo too Thomas. Do you have Encore or another DVD authoring program?
Nathaniel Sisson June 6th, 2005, 04:37 PM I have a title that I would like to put a glow effect on. Is there a way to do that in the title designer in Premiere Pro 1.5? What I mean by glow is an area of color that follows the outside of the title but is feathered so that the farther out from the edge of the title you go the fainter the color is. I hope that makes sense.
Nate
Nathaniel Sisson June 6th, 2005, 04:57 PM What widescreen format are you using? (letter box or squeeze)
Nate
Pete Bauer June 6th, 2005, 05:22 PM Hi Nate,
A feature of text within the PPro Title applet called "Outer Stroke" might be what you're asking for. To use it, highlight some text in the Title applet, expand the "Strokes" option, and pick your settings (many to choose from).
Let us know if that isn't what you're looking for.
Joe Mobic June 6th, 2005, 05:25 PM just wondering if anyone has had this issue:
on my timeline, when I drag and drop the cross dissolve video transition, sometimes it allows me to place it betweed two clips, and other times I can only place it on the front or back of the clip. any reason for this?
David Yuen June 6th, 2005, 07:46 PM When the transition does not drop evenly onto both of the clips, it means that one of the clips is not supplying enough footage and needs to be trimmed. That is, the footage at the end can either be used for the transition or for viewing but not both. Premiere makes up for the deficiency by repeating frames.
Nathaniel Sisson June 6th, 2005, 08:45 PM Here is what I am trying to get:
http://zionfilmworks.com/Pictures/DOTH.jpg
Here is the closest I seem to be able to get in Premiere Pro:
http://zionfilmworks.com/Pictures/DOTH%20PP.jpg
Glenn Chan June 6th, 2005, 09:22 PM A stupid way is to superimpose your title onto itself. Apply gaussian blur (or a faster one) to the bottom.
Pete Bauer June 6th, 2005, 10:49 PM Nate,
I tried similar to what Glenn mentioned, except using the Shadow feature, and it does work, as would his technique. But it is even simpler than that.
It is just a matter of playing around with the settings in the Titler and getting familiar with them. I did that for a little while this evening and got what I think are pretty decent results using nothing more than the Shadow feature:
http://www.geosynchrony.com/scratchpad.htm
As I note on the web page, the effect is so subtle it doesn't really even show up in IE; you have to view it enlarged in Photoshop or a similar application. Of course, if you wanted it to be less subtle, you could do that. But I wanted to be sure that the smooth, subtle effect you wanted could really be done.
Also, if you want to get fancy, there are plug-ins available that will do moving back-glow, etc. But they cost about $100 each for the various effects.
Adam Kampia June 7th, 2005, 07:20 AM Of course if you have Photoshop and create your title there you can just apply the "outer glow" blending effect and tweak it to your hearts desire.
Joe Mobic June 7th, 2005, 08:12 AM I've burnt my sequence onto a DVD by using the Encoding Preset: NTSC 4x3 High Quality 7Mb CBR 1 Pass
(i really don't know what the 7Mb CBR 1 Pass really means)
what exactly is CBR or VBR and 1 Pass vs 2 Pass?
also
when I watch the DVD on the TV, it looks good, however on the LCD laptop I can see some of the pixellation shadows during when there is some action or movement - for instance when someone moves there hand or head somewhat rapidly, I can see a faint sort of "trail" left.
any recommendation as to which setting I should put as my custom preset. the 7Mb VBR 2 Pass SurCode for Dolby Digital 5.1 doesn't allow me to record on mine.
What about Progressive 4x3 High Quality 7Mb CBR 1 Pass?
Jared Thomas June 7th, 2005, 11:49 AM for the life of me i cant figure out how to get one frame to lengthen to where it holds that one frame for mutiple seconds. ive tried to right click the fram and select frame hold and then select hold on...but when i lengthen the frame it hold the frame at the first of the clip where i lengthened it to....does that make sense??....im sure its really easy, but im just getting frustrated. any help would deffinitley be appreciated. thanks so much.
Joshua Provost June 7th, 2005, 12:06 PM I'm sure there is a better way to do it, but I usually export the frame (File/Export/Frame) as a BMP and insert the still for whatever duration I need. Just cut the main video clip at that point, push out the end, insert your still and put it all back together.
Ed Smith June 7th, 2005, 01:08 PM I'm with Joshua,
Simply export a frame from the point in your movie, then import it and put it in the position you want on your timeline. Remember to deinterlace or use flicker removal. Otherwise you'll get 2 fields flashing on your screen at the same time - and that don't look to good.
Cheers,
Tyge Floyd June 7th, 2005, 01:30 PM I've run into the same problem and it's a major pain in the butt. I believe I have solved most of that problem by allowing more "preroll" and "postroll" for each shot I capture. If needed, go back and recapture the clips with a little added footage on each end, if that makes sense.
Ed Smith June 7th, 2005, 01:31 PM Hi Joe,
VBR: Variable Bit Rate. i.e. that bit rate will vary depending on what the picture is made off. Setting this value to say 7Mb, that will be the highest bitrate but can vary to any value below this. i.e. if there is a lot of black or dark areas then the bit rate will drop. Ideal for saving space on your DVD.
CBR: Constant Bit Rate. This is where the Bit Rate stays at a constant value. i.e. if this is set to 7Mb then the video will always be 7Mb no matter if there is a lot of black or dark areas. This can take up more space on the disk.
7Mb basically refers to quality. The lower this value is, then the lower the picture quality will be, but you'll be able to fit a lot more on a disk. setting this value higher inreases picture quality but will take up more space on a disk.
Pass (1+2): I think this refers to the number of times the encoder will analyze the clips before encoding.
Your TV and LCD screens view pictures in completely different ways. So I would not be to concerned. If you intend for it to be viewed on your PC screen then you might want to play around with the field settings.
I hope this helps a little,
Tyge Floyd June 7th, 2005, 01:43 PM Unfortunately the same thing happened to me on assignment in Africa last month. I can't reshoot the footage! I did learn a way to prevent it from happening again. Simply run the camera with the Manual Adjustment switch set at the Hold position while having at least two manual settings set to your liking. (I set Gain and Shutter Speed.) The Backlight and Spotlight buttons can not be accidentally turned on using this setting.
If that confuses the heck out of you, I'm sorry. Not very good at explaining.
Jared Thomas June 7th, 2005, 02:10 PM ok cool, thanks guys.
Harry Lender June 7th, 2005, 03:32 PM Tyge
Thanks for your suggestion. You did great explaining. I understood completely. I did reshoot the scene and it turned out much better.
Thanks again
Harry
David Yuen June 7th, 2005, 05:28 PM for the life of me i cant figure out how to get one frame to lengthen to where it holds that one frame for mutiple seconds. ive tried to right click the fram and select frame hold and then select hold on...but when i lengthen the frame it hold the frame at the first of the clip where i lengthened it to....does that make sense??....im sure its really easy, but im just getting frustrated. any help would deffinitley be appreciated. thanks so much.In case it still bothers you, you need to trim the front end of the clip to the point at which you want the frame to hold. You'll have to zoom in to maximum to make sure it's at the right frame.
Then do what you did with the right-click.
There are a couple ways to trim - you can adjust the start of the clip or you can razor it right at the frame.
One consideration is: do you have enough footage to stretch it out to the desired length? If not, you can adjust the duration by "slowing" it down (keyboard shortcut "x").
Patrick Jenkins June 7th, 2005, 09:42 PM Here is what I am trying to get:
http://zionfilmworks.com/Pictures/DOTH.jpg
Here is the closest I seem to be able to get in Premiere Pro:
http://zionfilmworks.com/Pictures/DOTH%20PP.jpg
That's a dead easy effect to do in Photoshop (if you have it). It's using the Outer Glow dynamic effect.
*edit, doh, just saw the other post
Jimmy McKenzie June 8th, 2005, 09:28 AM I have yet to capture the second track Audio2 handle connections from the XL1 when in 12 bit mode in Premiere Pro.
Has anyone done this with PPro?
I know scenealyzer will do this, but it would be nice to keep this project intact in Premiere for archive purposes.
Hart Boyd June 8th, 2005, 11:03 AM Premiere can only capture one set of audio tracks at a time. If you need the other two you will have to change the audio capture setting to the others and recapture everything again.
Jimmy McKenzie June 8th, 2005, 11:34 AM Premiere can only capture one set of audio tracks at a time. If you need the other two you will have to change the audio capture setting to the others and recapture everything again.
Exactly. Have you tried this in PPro? There doesn't seem to be a custom setting for 12 bit audio2 source when attempting to capture.
Edward Troxel June 8th, 2005, 01:32 PM Simple solution: Purchase Scenalyzer Live (about $30 or so)
With Scenalyzer Live you can capture Video + Stereo 1 into an AVI file while simultaneously capturing Stereo 2 into a separate WAV file. One pass capture via firewire for BOTH files.
Jimmy McKenzie June 8th, 2005, 07:19 PM Understood with regard to scenealyzer and it's capabilities. The reason for not wishing to use a 3rd party capture is to maintain the integrity of the backup and long term storage of an offline file and use the source tape as a part of that equation.
So, my appeal is still the same. And as mentioned by Hart this is perhaps possible in PPro.
Has anyone captured the second audio track in 12 bit mode in PPro?
Hart?
Thanks ...
Hart Boyd June 9th, 2005, 05:08 AM I was looking for the setting in PPPro 1.5 and for the life of me I can't seem to find the setting now. I know I have done this in the past but that might have been an older version of Premiere but in the help section of PPro there was this note:
"Note: Although the DV format can record two independent stereo audio pairs, you cannot capture the Stereo 2 pair in Windows."
Sorry if I mislead anyone but I thought I remembered doing it in the past before finding Scenealyzer since I wanted to capture everything in one pass.
Jimmy McKenzie June 9th, 2005, 09:35 AM Thanks for the investigative work. I ended up using old premiere with the old realtime board and this worked out ok. It means an extra psq file for backup, but restoration of the project remains intact.
Nice work Hart.
Ken E. Williams June 9th, 2005, 02:19 PM Has anyone else experienced Premiere Pro 1.5 just quitting and disappearing with no error messages?
The last time this happened, I had just rendered a complex 30 minute program. I clicked on the timeline and suddenly no more Premiere Pro! I haven't seen a pattern except to say it usually happens during final editing or rendering of a project - and of course when there is a deadline due :)
On restarting PPro there were no messages but most of the 'render bar' on the timeline was red again - all the new rendering was suddenly 'lost'. The XP system (512 MB RAM, 2 hard drives each with 20 GB free) and other applications appear to have no problems.
Anyone have an idea about this?
Thanks, Ken W.
Ken E. Williams June 9th, 2005, 02:30 PM You may find the glow effect that you want is already available in a Style Library (a preset within Title Designer). Look at Tim Kolb's Premiere Pro Style library. For info & free download, see this page: http://www.stevengotz.com/premierepro.htm
Greg Jacobson June 9th, 2005, 10:02 PM I know Vegas has a white flash transition but do not see one in Premeire Pro.
Is there an easy way to create one of these or some type of plug in?
Ed Smith June 10th, 2005, 02:23 AM Yep, Premiere has a White flash transition.
I believe its called Addictive Dissolve.
Hope this helps,
Ed Smith June 10th, 2005, 02:33 AM Hi Ken,
Obvoiously Premiere should not be crashing out. But I guess theres a few things you can try.
Upgrade to version 1.5.1 it has a few bug fixes which might help the situation.
Try rendering a little bit at a time to see if it helps i.e render every 5 minute chunk rather than the whole 30mins.
Make sure that no programs are running in the background, or that you have any screensavers set that might interupt the rendering.
You could also check event viewer to see if there are any message that might relate to a hardware or software problem.
Does it always stop/ crash at the same place? If so there might be a possibilty that its having trouble render a certain effect you have created?
Hope this helps,
K. Forman June 10th, 2005, 06:01 AM I had the same problem with Prem 6, but it wasn't the program... the motherboard was the culprit. It seems there was a setting in the softmenu I needed to tweek. Once I changed that setting, the problem dissapeared.
Adam Kampia June 10th, 2005, 06:44 AM In PPro, there is no white flash per se, Additive Dissolve does not do this naturally.
You need to go to File->new->color matte, and select white. Then you just insert that matte on the timeline, change its length, and use whatever dissolve transitions you want on its ends.
Ken E. Williams June 10th, 2005, 06:53 AM That's useful to know.
BTW Maybe Premiere's Additive Dissolve can be quite addictive to some :)
Sorry, I couldn't resist that one!
Nick Medrano June 10th, 2005, 08:31 AM Hi folks,
Long time member of this time. I have lurked now and then, however, now I need your help.
I own a DVX100 (the original, not "A") and never shot in the 24pa/advanced mode before. I am going to be shooting a 10 minute educational video that will be outputted to Progressive DVD and shown on a HI-DEF widescreen plasma (Link to model (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6376539&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat31800050028&id=1077624868469)).
I need to know the best workflow for an awesome final product. I am editing on Adobe Premiere 1.5 and have access to Adobe Encore if needed. What preset should I use for outputting to a progressive DVD in Premiere or Encore? What settings should I use in the camera's scene file for a great final product? Lastly, I am having a 3d animator create a 3d animation for the video, are there any known issues with inputting animations into 24pa footage? If so, what should I tell the animator to export his file as?
Thanks for any help!
Roger Averdahl June 10th, 2005, 08:44 AM Hi!
This happened to me with PPro 1.5 when i was testing Trapcode's plug-in, Shine. This happened several times and everytime it happened was when i used Shine. (It was the trialversion of Shine i was testing.)
This was the first and only time/s PPro 1.5 just shut down.
/Roger
Ken E. Williams June 10th, 2005, 11:40 AM Thanks to all for the useful thoughts and tips.
Ed: I'll certainly try the upgrade to version 1.5.1.
The interesting point is that the problem does not appear while rendering. Rather, after completion and when I click on something such as a timeline tab.
I do ensure that there are no other programs running and no screen savers. One thing that I do during rendering is to boost up the priority of PPro from Normal to High.
I will check the event viewer - good idea.
Keith: do you remember which setting fixed the problem?
Roger: I have previously used Trapcode's plug-in Shine on that system. I'll now ensure that it is fully removed.
Thanks for the helpful ideas!
K. Forman June 10th, 2005, 01:24 PM I don't remember exactly which setting, but it was an Abit board. It took me over a year to find this out, and lots of trial and error.
David Schamis June 10th, 2005, 07:03 PM I have been digitizing a video tape via PPro1.5, and something odd is happening with the audio.
After capturing the video (via my DV camcorder), I can see the video clips just fine in PPro, but I don't hear any audio. At first I thought that it was capturing the audio properly, but when I open the captured clips in Windows Media Player it sounds fine, or when I render and then watch in WMP is also sounds fine.
I'm sure I'm not clicking a box or something. Thanks in advance for the help.
David
David Schamis June 10th, 2005, 07:05 PM Also, when I drag the "line" on the timeline I hear sound (blurred of course), when I press play I hear nothing.
David Schamis June 10th, 2005, 07:21 PM I already found the answer:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=35733&highlight=audio
That's why I'm a Newbie!
Sorry for wasting harddrive space!
Nathaniel Sisson June 11th, 2005, 08:57 AM Thanks everyone for your great replies to my question. They are very helpful. I am still new to Premiere Pro so it is great to have people that are willing to give of their time and knowledge to help people like me. I really appreciate it.
Nate
Rob Lohman June 12th, 2005, 06:43 AM I'm not working with Premiere, so I can't help you with any specifics. However,
what you need to do is make sure EVERYTHING is set to 24p.
Make sure when you start the project (before capture) in Premiere you select
a 24p advanced profile. Then capture the footage and do your thing. When
exporting make sure you select a profile that has a name like "DVD MPEG-2
24p" (you get the idea). That should get everything going.
The best a 3D animator can do is export an UNCOMPRESSED (ie, no codec!)
AVI at 24p or offer an image sequence in 24p (test beforehand you can
load such TIFF/TARGA/PNG sequences!).
Matthew Weitz June 12th, 2005, 06:01 PM I'm putting together a filmstrip of photographs that were taken on a vacation to music in PPro. All the pictures were digital so I took them into Photoshop and reduced them so that their width wasn't more than 720 pixels and their height wasn't more than 480 pixels.
My question is what settings should I be using?
When I created the project, I choose the DV - NTSC Standard 48 kHz preset. When I exported it, I just chose the default settings.
Is there anything I can do more? Any settings to optimize anything?
Thanks guys. :)
Adam Kampia June 12th, 2005, 07:24 PM That's fine if you just want to display the pictures with no motion or panning/zooming. The NTSC size will cut down on rendering, provided that your images are only 72ppi. If they are more (150, 300), then you might as well nto have resized them.
If you plan on adding motion, then you want your pics to be larger than 720x480. Otherwise any zooming will pixelate.
Ppro can handle up to 4000x4000 pixel images. But that will tax your system.
I go for 1200x1600 (usually 200-300ppi res), because I use a lot of "ken-burns-ey" techniques.
Either way, you can just check the box in Project settings-> General to "scale clips to project dimensions" and you don't need to do any resizing prior to import. (Just re-import your stills if they are already in Premiere).
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