Hi Matt,

Have you got lots of effects on your clip you are trying to render? The more effects, the longer it'll take to render!

Can you give us any more details about what you are doing?

Cheers

thanks so much. i just put togther a little video for my cousin. just something i can build off of. but i feel like i did a good job just learning with it.

i usally just shoot the film and my partner edits. i've been trying to learn.

anyone know where i can uplaod it so you guys can check it out?

I am running the trial version of these programs and don't have many days left and I am done beating my head over the non-helpful help files that come with these programs so I am here to ask you this. Why after I capture my video in PP and go through and make my clips (and renaming them to match the scene) doesn't Encore see my new named clips from the project? As far as I can tell, all it sees is the original .avi files that were from the original capture. It doesn't see my updated project with the new named .avi's.
Please help.
jb
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It is impossible for Encore to see the wrong files. It sees what you told it to see. So I suspect that you have confused the file names or the directory somehow.

You exported a new AVI out of Premiere Pro. right? And put it into a separate directory. And imported the AVIs from that new directory as timelines. Tight?

When you rename a clip inside a Premiere Pro project the clip retains it's original name on the hard drive. This is stated in the manual (and would be in the help file) under "Naming, finding and deleting Project window items" in the "Working with Projects" chapter:

"Whenever you rename, edit, or delete a clip in Premiere Pro, the original file and filename remain untouched on your hard disk."

And as Mr. Gotz said, you would normally export your project from Premiere Pro as an avi (or MPEG-2) file before working with it in Encore DVD.

It really sucks to have to buy a plugin for $500 just for secondary color correction...

It should come as a standard feature. I think Vegas 5 has it, why not PPro?

I'm starting to wonder what other features I'm missing from Vegas...

Dave,

Have you taken a look at the RGB tonal range in the Color Corrector? You can set the Gamma, Pedestal and Gain of each channel (Red, green & blue) as well as the Curves for each. And of course, the HSL settings are available to you.

What is it that you find inadequate about them?

Thanks Steve, but that will not do what I desire. Say, I change the Red gain, it will affect all colors that have red, including white, yellow, etc.

What I want is to change the hue/saturation of a particular tonal range, like if I chose yellows it will only affect 'yellowish' tones, and leave all others alone (including white).

I know Photoshop allows you to do this on all primary colors, but haven't been able to find this feature in PPro.

From what I've heard, Vegas automatically generates an alpha mask for the chosen color range and updates it on a per-frame basis.

Chroma key might work if you can key out yellow.

An inelegant solution, but it may work.

I don't like Color Finesse's secondary CC function that much, but at least it gives you a secondary color corrector.
Vegas and Final Cut both have (better) secondary color correctors.

I think Vegas 5 has it, why not PPro?
I'm not really sure, because Final Cut has it and Premiere Pro tries to mimic Final Cut in so many ways. As well, the Apple website touts the benefit of its 3-way color corrector.

My guess is that Adobe didn't think it was a priority, or that secondary color correction is hard to program for if you want hardware acceleration for it (or if you want backwards compatibility with old hardware acceleration cards).

Dave,

You might want to try the Color Replace effect.

Not really. In fact now I have no clips, but it takes ~3 minutes for ~10-15 seconds of video. I just have a few cuts with music in audio track 2.

What codec should I use, what quality, what resolution, etc? Do any of those help?

Let me give you guys the backstory on this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=43634

I figured that since this is the Premiere section, maybe you can help me out.

Me: My issue is the the film was shot in a progressive mode, while the behind the scenes footage was shot interlaced. Could that cause a problem?

Them: No or it might. Depends. You have no problems if you do not mix the clips in one movie. You can have interlaced extra's on the disc with a progressive main movie. Just make sure you output to progressive or interlaced MPEG-2 and the DVD authoring program is set to progressive/interlaced on the right clips as well (this make sure the proper flags get set to instruct the players how to play it back). If you mix and match interlaced and progressive in one movie (in the NLE, to show for example the scene in the movie you are talking about in the behind the scenes / extra's) you need to choose which form to output to. I'd say in that case output to interlaced. This can have the consequence that your progressive footage is "re-interlaced" by the program (depends on the NLE).

Me:Yeah, that's what I want to do. I use Premiere 6.02. How do I "output" progressive or interlaced? I just thought that it output in whatever form your original clips were filmed in. The only output options I see is the video codec to choose. Should I take the film clips and interlace them? Does Premiere Pro 1.5 support output configurations like progressive and interlaced?

Any ideas? Also I'll be using Encore 1.5 to author my DVD.

I read the other thread, let me just make sure i am understanding this correctly: You have a feature shot in progressive, behind the scenes footage shot interlaced, and you are using premiere 6.02 and encored 1.5.

Ok - the answer lies in the project settings. You will need two projects - one for the feature and one for the behind the scenes. When you create a new project, note the load project settings window. If you choose ntsc dv, you will see rendering options on the right side. I dont have a copy of 6.0, so i am working from memory. I believe by default it should be set to Field setting: upper field first. this is interlaced. Use that field setting for your behind the scenes footage. for the feature, choose custom from the load settings, and i believe under the video section (i think, take a look for it), set the rendering options to field setting: no fields. This is progressive. Edit (and capture) your progressive feature footage there.

Now, i am not sure if the capture settings are set based on your project settings in 6.0 - they are in pro, and i am pretty sure they are. Just double check in the capture window for additional options.

So, edit the feature, export it as a full dv file, and import that into your behind the scenes project. When you import that progressive file, it will need to be rendered to conform to the interlaced project(note that you should have a render bar over the footage when you put it in the timeline because it is not the projects native setting, but the interlaced behind the scenes footage should not).

For the mpeg2 export settings, follow the same rules for fields. Again, i dont have 6.0, so i cant double check, but look in the settings on export at the field settings. Are you exporting the mp2's from premiere or using an external encoder?

In encore, you dont need to do anything. Import the mp2 files and put each in its own timeline, and each one will play progressive or interlaced on its own if you set it up right.

Hope that helped.

Which is the best keyboard to work specially with Adobe Premiere Pro??
Thanks

OK,

By rendering do you mean exporting into a new AVI or rendering effects in the timeline?

When exporting your video out as a DV AVI file you need to make sure that the Microsoft DV AVI compressor is used.

Simply your computer should be able to cope with exporting a little quicker than you are experiencing.

Do you have anything running in the background, virus checker etc?

Gabor,

Any QWERTY keyboard will work!

Are you talking about QWERTY keyboards with Adobe Premiere labels?

Personally I don't use them, purely because they are a little expensive. But if you find it hard to memorize what keys are what then it can be a help.

However with Premiere Pro you are able to assign any keys to any function you like, therefore a dedicated keyboard for Premiere won't be of any use.

Is this what you are talking about?

Cheers,

http://home.arcor.de/anniso/prmpro-err.gif

thats what happen if i try to update my Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5

Hardware: Acer Travelmate 804LCI / 1.7G Centrino / 1GB Ram 333
System: Windows XP SP2 including all updates from M$ / the OS is new - no other applications installed... i am totally confused

thanks a lot for any advice

Mirko

Bella I believe sells some keyboards that may be a little fancier, with labelling for Premiere hotkeys and a shuttle wheel. I have never tried it so I wouldn't know if it's any good. In any case, I don't think you need it.
http://premiere.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=21829


Any keyboard should be fine...
you can get ergonomic ones which splits the keys apart, which may be more comfortable for you.
Keyboards vary in how the keys behave... which may make a difference to you. It's an issue of personal taste.
A few keyboards like ones made by Viewsonic are laptop-style. I find them extremely annoying because the keys aren't where you think they are.
Some keyboards have extra buttons which you may or may not like. (i.e. the mid-high end microsoft ones have buttons for favorites and things like that.)
Some keyboards have an f-lock "feature", which I find annoying. (again, some microsoft keyboards are an example.)

The arstechnica.com buyer's guide has some keyboard recommendations if you want to check what other people recommend.
Microsoft Internet Keyboard

If you like Natural Keyboards, the Microsoft Natural Multimedia Keyboard is a favorite around the Ars Orbiting Headquarters. Older "click" models such as the IBM Model M are favorites for many, while some of us prefer quiet units such as Dell's Quietkey.

Keyboards are personal preference, so we pick a fairly safe conventional recommendation in the Guide, and you can pick and choose as you like from what you prefer — not necessarily what we prefer.

Cost: US$11.33 (4/19/2005) [Comparison shop for this item]

Another good reference for setting up a monitor is right here on this site:

http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/production/graff1.php

From the timeline, yes. No effects even. I just want to preview from disk so I can see where I need to make precise adjustments to my editing. Could it be something with Premiere 6.02?

I imported my avi files into Premiere 6.5 for editing. I got the red rendering line so I rendered it. I make one adjustment to my video and I have to re-render the whole thing again! How can I stop this so I don't have to render everytime I do something? I'm wanting to preview my video on my tv screen and not just the little preview window so that's why I need the red bar to go away.

Personally, I'm not interested in broadcasting my stuff, and I don't want to give up any bandwidth to make it "broadcast safe."
Boyd,

Video signals shouldn't be too far out of broadcast spec, or one can get problems like buzzing in the audio track regardless of whether or not the piece is broadcast. It's probably not a problem for your application (projection on LCD/DLP projectors), but it is something others should be aware of.

You can trick Premiere into not doing this. First, isolate the segment that you want to make adjustments to. Razor the segment at both ends and change whatever you need to. But, if you need to modify something in the whole clip, you will have to render everything again.

I think I found I really nast bug with PPro.

Place one clip in track 1, and another in track 2. Place a Screen Key or Multiply Key on track 2 - All is fine. Now add a Gaussian or Fast Blur to the clip in track 2... The keying doesn't work anymore. This used to work just fine with Premiere 6, and you could have as many keyed layers as you wished.

Any one knows a solution for this, or should I report the bug to Adobe?

Hey there,

I'm having a problem with Premiere 1.5 and my XL2. I have PPro installed on both my desktop and my laptop and have problems with both. The laptop keeps reading my 24p footage as 29.97 and incorrectly renders the footage as such (causing a slow-motion stutter effect) but exports to tape just fine. If i use the "interpret footage" feature, i can manually change the fps to 23.976, but then that screws the project's cuts. Ok, setting that aside a moment -- the desktop sees the exact same footage properly as 24p but when i export to tape, i get pulsing audio -- basically a burst of audio every couple seconds. The desktop can capture regular DV footage back to tape just fine, just problems with 24p. I've captured 24p footage using both Premiere and ScenalyzerLive and tried several different project settings but the problems on both computers remain unchanged. I have a 90min feature to edit but am leary about capturing more footage until i figure out this problem. Anyone got any words of wisdom? The desktop is a dual xenon 1.7 p4 with a SB Audigy sound card that also has IEEE. the laptop is a Vaio GRV-680.

bf

the desktop is running XP Pro SP1 and the Laptop XP Home SP2.

When you start a new project you can choose between DV-NTSC or DV-NTSC Real-Time Preview... is one any better than the other besides giving you a real time preview? I don't see why you wouldn't want the preview if the quality of the final video is going to be exactly the same.

Are you using Premiere 6.5? If so, then yes, it does matter, because if you don't turn on real time preview, you will have to render EVERYTHING. (titles, transitions etc...)

I am using 6.5. So other than giving me that preview there is nothing different between the 2?

It really depends on your hardware. If you don't have enough juice, it is a waste of time trying to get "real time" previews. If I'm not mistaken (And I might be).

I have an XL1s and film in frame mode. My question is what happens between filming and the capture process to the fps.

When filming in frame mode, my cam still uses 30fps does it not?

When capturing in Premiere it captures at 30fps right?

So how is frame mode of any use if it is still being captured at 30fps?

Haven't seen that one yet. Have you tried nesting that sequence into a new one and then adding the Gaussian or Fast Blur?

I had problems in older versions of Premiere with stuttering and long render times. The cause in my case was using MPG and MPEG files instead of actual DV captured AVIs. Once I got firewire and was able to capture raw AVI, the problem went away, footage rendered rapidly.

Are you using MPG, MPEG, or a non standard (3rd party) capture software?

Gotz's site is killer, I learned a lot there over the years.

Thanks. I do my best to keep it current. It all started as a way for me to keep track of things, so I figured I might as well share.

Marco is correct, there is a need for nested sequences in cases like this. Otherwise you are blurring the channels and it fouls up the key.

I believe it is working as designed, and is not a bug. Just a really odd design.

I suggest that you put in a feature request for an "adjustment layer" like After Effects has.

Are there ANY spaces in your clip that have no black, no footage, or titles etc.? I have seen premiere do this when there are empty spaces between clips.

You should be able to just use the Motion feature and make each clip a smaller section of the screen. You may have to add additional video tracks.

I've been working overtime for an automotive research company to try to put 14 hours of raw video footage onto DVDs. Now, as far as I remember, you are supposed to be able to fit 2 hours of video onto one DVD, so I made several different sequences in Premiere Pro (one for each DVD). All of these are 2 hours or under. When I go to export each sequence to DVD, the space it requires is over 6gb, far more than the 4.7gb available on a DVD-R. I checked the "Maximize Bitrate" box which seems to compress it down to just fit on the disc, but every time I try to burn, it never gets through the transcoding process. It gets somewhere between halfway and two-thirds done transcoding and stops. The computer isn't frozen, and even Premiere is still responding, it just seems to come to a halt. Anyone else have this problem? Or have a solution? I've tried changing the output settings from the preferred 7mb VBR with dolby digital to the 4mb VBR, but even that requires about 5gb and I get the same freezing problems.

I've even tried exporting each sequence as single DV AVI files and bringing them into Adobe Encore, but that doesn't seem to be working either.

This is really confusing me and it's getting to the point where if I can't get a solution soon, I'm gonna have to tell the guys at the company that I can't get the job done, and obviously that is not a very desirable option.

Anybody have a suggestion?

This seems to be a problem with the InstallShield program (that is the installer
that tries to install Premiere):

That error number translates to: "Element not found"

Searching on the error number (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=0x8002802B) yielded this link:

http://consumer.installshield.com/kb.asp?id=Q110616

I am using Premiere Pro 1.5

I deleted a video file out of my project because I needed the harddrive space earlier today. I just recaptured the file and linked the 'offline' file to the new one I just captured.

The first part is right, but right after the point where I had done cuts and other things, the video is incredibly off. Premiere is just going by the file length and not the timecode.

The video had a clean timecode ect.
I know that this is supposed to be easy to do - what am I missing?

I need premiere to replace the file correctly based on the original timecode. The video file is exactly the same as the original video file except for I started capturing at a slightly different place, however should it not base the placement of the file based on the timecode readings and not the length of the file?

Just curious, did you try to batch recapture the file from within Premiere Pro? I don't have access to Premiere Pro now, but I think you should be able to right click on the off lined file and choose to recapture it. I've done this before.

Your right.

I just pulled out my PPro Studio Techniques book and it mentions this. However now I must wait another hour to capture via this method.
Thanks for the reply though.


However, there must be a way for premiere pro to do this without batch capture, but based purely on the timecode of the captured material. Its almost like batch capturing from the camera, except its just pulling the material straight from your harddrive by reading the timecode...?

However, there must be a way for premiere pro to do this without batch capture, but based purely on the timecode of the captured material.
I thought I remembered reading about doing this, perhaps over on the Adobe forums, but I couldn't find the thread.

OMG! Yeah I'm using footage given to me by a friend who has a Sony camcorder that only captures in MPEG. Jeez. Could I speed it up if I converted all the files to uncompressed .AVI?

Awesome! Thanks!

Anyone?

I have to go over there today and continue to work, and I don't know what I'm going to do if I can't figure out this problem.

It's worth a shot, try it with a small section of video first, that way you don't waste time if it doesn't work, the audio may not come out in sync. I think I remember just suffering with it until I started capturing differently. I had a capture card that only had S-Video and RCA. My capture software sucked at the time too, so it captured only in MPEG1 no choice for .AVI . I think I also tried to increase the bitrate, I don't remember if that helped or not.

I would export each sequence as DV avi and create several Encore projects. The transcoding process is time consuming once you begin to build your img file from within Encore.
If you have 14 hours of source material plus the flattened work from PPro along with all the assorted conformed audio files, perhaps your drive is full?
If you have gigs 'o plenty on the system, try exporting a shorter avi from premiere. Maybe 1 hour and test that in Encore to see if you are successful. Then you can increase the load on Encore and patiently wait to see how the VBR compression works out. The compression in Encore is quite good, but it does take time.

Hard drive space isn't the issue. I'm using a 400gb external drive, and even with all the uncompressed footage on there, it's only half full. I will try what you're recommending and see if I have any better results. Although I did try using Encore before and it froze just like Premiere. I wish this process was much easier.

Any idea why Premiere was telling me that my <2 hours of footage would take up more space that was available on the DVD? That was really boggling my mind for a while on Tuesday.