Robert Martens
October 12th, 2004, 01:38 PM
Okay, so I've been putting off asking this for a few hours now, worried both that my explanation would be too cumbersome, and that I'd be yelled at for not searching first. Well, I'm just gonna have to go ahead and be cumbersome, and for all the searching I've done, I can't put together an answer to my questions. Maybe I'm just stupid, I don't know.
Here's the deal.
I was recently chosen to help Hal Wolin and company on their movie, "A Couple Days in Vegas (http://www.acoupledays.com/)". I've just finished helping them shoot auditions, and will soon be doing rehearsals; I'm currently handling both camera work and audio. The thought is that as we get into actual production, the responsibilities of audio will be offloaded to others--hopefully others who know more than I do--something I'm very happy with. Don't get me wrong, I understand and respect the power of audio, and what it's worth to do it right, and I wish desperately to get a handle on such things, but I can't. Try as I might, I'm a total screwup when it comes to audio. Unfortunately (for myself AND the final product), I'm stuck trying to grasp this stuff for the time being.
The auditions were, and the rehearsals will be, shot in a small audition space in Manhattan. About ten by fifteen feet, with nine or ten foot ceilings. I think. I'm no judge of distance. It's not terribly well suited for this purpose, as the only thing they've got on the walls is some "soundproofing" material that's totally useless. It's packing foam, really; it certainly LOOKS like the echo-absorption stuff, but it doesn't actually work, and it sure as heck does nothing to stop sound from coming in or going out of the room. But even the genuine "eggcrate"-lookin' material isn't meant to do that. The tracks we record, as I understand it, are echoey.
But that's a minor consideration, in the end: they ARE just auditions, and the sound needn't be theatrical release quality. No, what I can't grasp are the more basic things involved here. There's no one around to operate a boom, no boom pole to stick the boom mic on ("He bought a shotgun without a boom pole?! What the frig is wrong with this guy?"), and no room for the guy to walk around even if we had him, so we're using two wireless mics. One's a Sony of some sort, I'm not sure which, that's theirs, the other is my Sennheiser Evolution 100. The package I bought came with the EK100 bodypack receiver, SK100 bodypack transmitter, ME-2 lavalier, and SKP100 plug-on transmitter.
I've got the receiver mounted on a Bracket 1 (couldn't afford the cozy little box when I got it, so it's just clipped on right now), plugged directly into my VX2000's mini jack. Yeah, I know, the output of this receiver is balanced, I should be plugging it into the balanced mini jack on my DXA-4, but that's been damaged, and is out of the equation (to speak the truth, the damage is my own fault, and I'm too embarrassed to send it in for repair. Same with my camera and my laptop; I like to punish myself for being an ass by breaking my most expensive stuff).
The first round of auditions I recorded--they had actually done some already, these were just the first I was there for--were too soft, and barely audible. I made sure to set my camera's audio control so it got nice and close to the 0dBFS mark on the peaks without actually clipping, and it sounded fine to MY ears through the headphones they let me borrow (I'm gonna get some 7506s ASAP), but the result was almost useless. I remembered, only after the fact of course, that the receiver has its OWN volume control, and for my second round of auditions, I tried adjusting it. Yet I couldn't figure out if I did it right because I had THREE volume controls to worry about: the one on the receiver, the one in camera, and the one on the headphone cable (this was a cheap pair of cans, only purchased at the last minute to make sure I was recording SOMETHING on tape). I had the little bars in the LCD screen on the receiver spending most of their time at the one half to three quarters mark, with occasional peaks on loud words going up toward the top, and I did the same with my camera's control, even though I had to turn it down almost completely. There was still some crackling every now and then, but I believe that was the headphones themselves. I have yet to hear the results, as they are the ones reviewing the tapes. Should I have insisted on listening to the tapes at the end of the day? Probably, but it was late and I was tired.
"So what the hell are you asking?", you say. I'll give you a list:
1.) Exactly how does one properly, accurately adjust the levels of a wireless mic setup like this?
2.) Should I have the VX2000's switch set to "line" instead of "mic"? I realized, after arriving and setting up, that I didn't know which was correct. I tried both, and "mic" was the only one I got a signal on, so I assumed it was right, but now I'm thinking maybe I simply did something wrong. Again.
3.) What's the deal with batteries for this stuff? I know you're supposed to put a fresh one in each device at the start of each day, and I'm fine with that. I can afford to get a few boxes of nine volts. But I don't know how long they usually last, or whether I'm supposed to switch the units off between auditions. Sometimes it's a ten to fifteen minute wait, sometimes we go out for an hour and grab something to eat. Should the things be on the whole time?
3b.) As a side note to the above, can anyone tell me the official, electrical reason you're not supposed to leave batteries inside of things? I always hear "never put your camera/mics away with the batteries inside", and I follow the advice, but I've never understood exactly why.
If anyone can provide me with answers to those questions, that'd be great, and if anyone can provide some more general, overall advice for my particular situation, that'd be even...greater.
No idea what I'm doin'.
Here's the deal.
I was recently chosen to help Hal Wolin and company on their movie, "A Couple Days in Vegas (http://www.acoupledays.com/)". I've just finished helping them shoot auditions, and will soon be doing rehearsals; I'm currently handling both camera work and audio. The thought is that as we get into actual production, the responsibilities of audio will be offloaded to others--hopefully others who know more than I do--something I'm very happy with. Don't get me wrong, I understand and respect the power of audio, and what it's worth to do it right, and I wish desperately to get a handle on such things, but I can't. Try as I might, I'm a total screwup when it comes to audio. Unfortunately (for myself AND the final product), I'm stuck trying to grasp this stuff for the time being.
The auditions were, and the rehearsals will be, shot in a small audition space in Manhattan. About ten by fifteen feet, with nine or ten foot ceilings. I think. I'm no judge of distance. It's not terribly well suited for this purpose, as the only thing they've got on the walls is some "soundproofing" material that's totally useless. It's packing foam, really; it certainly LOOKS like the echo-absorption stuff, but it doesn't actually work, and it sure as heck does nothing to stop sound from coming in or going out of the room. But even the genuine "eggcrate"-lookin' material isn't meant to do that. The tracks we record, as I understand it, are echoey.
But that's a minor consideration, in the end: they ARE just auditions, and the sound needn't be theatrical release quality. No, what I can't grasp are the more basic things involved here. There's no one around to operate a boom, no boom pole to stick the boom mic on ("He bought a shotgun without a boom pole?! What the frig is wrong with this guy?"), and no room for the guy to walk around even if we had him, so we're using two wireless mics. One's a Sony of some sort, I'm not sure which, that's theirs, the other is my Sennheiser Evolution 100. The package I bought came with the EK100 bodypack receiver, SK100 bodypack transmitter, ME-2 lavalier, and SKP100 plug-on transmitter.
I've got the receiver mounted on a Bracket 1 (couldn't afford the cozy little box when I got it, so it's just clipped on right now), plugged directly into my VX2000's mini jack. Yeah, I know, the output of this receiver is balanced, I should be plugging it into the balanced mini jack on my DXA-4, but that's been damaged, and is out of the equation (to speak the truth, the damage is my own fault, and I'm too embarrassed to send it in for repair. Same with my camera and my laptop; I like to punish myself for being an ass by breaking my most expensive stuff).
The first round of auditions I recorded--they had actually done some already, these were just the first I was there for--were too soft, and barely audible. I made sure to set my camera's audio control so it got nice and close to the 0dBFS mark on the peaks without actually clipping, and it sounded fine to MY ears through the headphones they let me borrow (I'm gonna get some 7506s ASAP), but the result was almost useless. I remembered, only after the fact of course, that the receiver has its OWN volume control, and for my second round of auditions, I tried adjusting it. Yet I couldn't figure out if I did it right because I had THREE volume controls to worry about: the one on the receiver, the one in camera, and the one on the headphone cable (this was a cheap pair of cans, only purchased at the last minute to make sure I was recording SOMETHING on tape). I had the little bars in the LCD screen on the receiver spending most of their time at the one half to three quarters mark, with occasional peaks on loud words going up toward the top, and I did the same with my camera's control, even though I had to turn it down almost completely. There was still some crackling every now and then, but I believe that was the headphones themselves. I have yet to hear the results, as they are the ones reviewing the tapes. Should I have insisted on listening to the tapes at the end of the day? Probably, but it was late and I was tired.
"So what the hell are you asking?", you say. I'll give you a list:
1.) Exactly how does one properly, accurately adjust the levels of a wireless mic setup like this?
2.) Should I have the VX2000's switch set to "line" instead of "mic"? I realized, after arriving and setting up, that I didn't know which was correct. I tried both, and "mic" was the only one I got a signal on, so I assumed it was right, but now I'm thinking maybe I simply did something wrong. Again.
3.) What's the deal with batteries for this stuff? I know you're supposed to put a fresh one in each device at the start of each day, and I'm fine with that. I can afford to get a few boxes of nine volts. But I don't know how long they usually last, or whether I'm supposed to switch the units off between auditions. Sometimes it's a ten to fifteen minute wait, sometimes we go out for an hour and grab something to eat. Should the things be on the whole time?
3b.) As a side note to the above, can anyone tell me the official, electrical reason you're not supposed to leave batteries inside of things? I always hear "never put your camera/mics away with the batteries inside", and I follow the advice, but I've never understood exactly why.
If anyone can provide me with answers to those questions, that'd be great, and if anyone can provide some more general, overall advice for my particular situation, that'd be even...greater.
No idea what I'm doin'.