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Danny Viescas August 19th, 2002, 09:46 PM Hi all,
My name is Danny Viescas and a few months ago I took the plunge into the wonderful world of Canon XL1s DV. Thanks to a number of you out there and the great resources of this site and community I have finished my first project.
It's a short called 'The Second Bakery Attack', based on the short story by Haruki Murakami. It's 25 minutes and available for any of you to view. I just ask that you give me some feedback, good, bad or ugly, all is appreciated.
You can find it at:
http://anubiseye.com/projects.html
Danny
danny@anubiseye.com
"May all your important memories be in Frame Movie Mode"
John Locke August 20th, 2002, 12:50 AM Hi Danny,
Thanks for posting...I'll definitely check it out.
I have a question for you...not trying to open a can of worms but just curious...did you get permission from Murakami? Is permission even needed for a not-for-profit "adaptation" of a story?
I've been considering shooting something based on a short story written by someone else...the first time I'll have shot someone else's material. Just wondering what permissions are needed and how "loose" an adaptation needs to be before it doesn't require permission.
Anyone else have comments?
Rob Lohman August 20th, 2002, 02:14 AM I'm going to take a look at it. Do you also have downloads instead
of only streaming? I myself am only on a broadband connection
at work and ofcourse cannot watch it here. I usually download
stuff and watch later at home.
Thanks.
Danny Viescas August 20th, 2002, 11:33 AM Hey John,
I didn't get permission but instead took the point of view that this is a non-commercial student effort. To tell you the truth I'm not sure if I have a leg to stand on. However, from researching the festival circuit it seems most copyright holders are quite liberal with not for profit armatures.
I have been in contact with the translator Jay Rubin, who saw it and liked it. He encouraged me to send a copy to Murakami, which I did this week.
Danny Viescas August 20th, 2002, 12:32 PM Hey Ron,
Thanks for your interest. I have put up a couple of downloadable zip files.
Jay Gladwell August 31st, 2002, 08:23 AM I've had two opposite experiences with copyrighted material and authors. The first was with Stephen King. I asked him for permission (years ago) to use a short story of his for a student project. He said yes, as long as I sent him a copy of the finished film. The second was with Kurt Vonnegut (years ago). He said absolutely not. He was very emphatic about it, too!
My experience has been that for films based on copyrighted material, festivals will require written proof that the filmmaker has permission to use said material. Without it, your film won't even be considered.
Whether it is or isn't a "for profit" project, the filmmaker can still have his pants sued off for copyright infringement, if the original author should decide to pursue the matter. That's the law.
So my advice would be to all those who are considering such an approach, think again. "Or you might want to ask yourself, do you feel lucky punk? Well, do ya?" ;o)
As for myself, if it weren't for my bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all!
Marc Betz September 7th, 2002, 06:05 AM I actualy got sucked in and let the answering machine pick my calls because I didn't want to miss any of it.
You should be proud of this piece of work.
Congrats
Aaron Koolen September 7th, 2002, 06:38 AM Danny, I see you're a software developer too! Likewise, but only a budding filmmaker, still to make my first movie, which will happen in the next few months. Well done on your first project! Hope to see many more.
Catchya
Aaron
Danny Viescas September 7th, 2002, 12:05 PM Glad, you guys enjoyed it. So far I have failed to make any film festivals, which has been a bit discouraging, so it's nice to get good feedback.
Hey Aaron, New Zealand!!! Yeah!! I'd much rather be a developer there I think. Seems like a cool place to be. Good luck on your first project. I look forward to seeing it.
Paul Sedillo September 7th, 2002, 02:17 PM Danny,
Great job on your first short. I watched this morning and enjoyed it. Keep up the good work!
Derrick Begin September 24th, 2002, 11:59 AM Excellent! Congratulations!
I am currently shooting a short SAG EXP Short using the XL1S. I am also downloading your featurette to my machine.
Out of curiosity, how many hours did you shoot to get the final piece? Over how many days? Have you kick started any other projects? The festival circuit, hows it treating you?
Questions? Questions? Questions?
Blathering a bit much...
I hope you are celebrating your accomplishment!
Cheers!
Derrick
Thanks in advance for the info...
Scott Silverman October 6th, 2002, 01:14 AM Jay,
You had mentioned that you tried to make a film of one of Kurt Vonnegut's stories. I just read his book "Welcome to the Monkey House" and was wondering what story (if even from that book) you were going to do?
Thanks.
Jay Gladwell October 6th, 2002, 08:08 AM Scott, at the time I was really enamored with "Long Walk to Forever." That was years ago, when I was more of a romantic. Alas, age and experience have made me more cynical. Still, you've given me a reason to go back and re-read the story--indeed the entire book.
Why do you ask?
Scott Silverman October 6th, 2002, 12:43 PM I was just asking because I was interested in what other filmmakers thought would have made a good short film out of that book. I like Kurt Vonnegut's writing and I can see where that story (and many others from the book) would make a good short, especially the ending. Well, if Vonnegut ever reconsiders, and you do make a short, contact me when you are finished. I would love to see the film!
Thanks.
Jay Gladwell October 6th, 2002, 12:52 PM His [Vonnegut's] time for reconsideration has past--he died several years ago. Maybe I will pursue it one more time.
Scott Silverman October 6th, 2002, 12:59 PM oops! I had forgot that he died. I knew this, but I guess it slipped my mind! Well, good luck!
Jay Gladwell October 6th, 2002, 01:50 PM Scott, any particular story you had your eye on?
Regarding my earlier post in this thread--I might chuck all that, stick my neck out and apply the old axiom, "it's easier to get forgiveness than it is permission."
Scott Silverman October 6th, 2002, 09:05 PM I was thinking about Harrison Bergeron. It's pretty short and seems like there wouldn't be much as far as technical stuff goes. I like scripts like that because of my limited time and resources. It also really lets you focus on the artistic part of the film. There probably wont be anything happening soon though. I just fished a big project and have another big one coming up this may. We'll see what happens. I would agree with your statement "it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission." Since Vonnegut is dead and your are an independent filmmaker, I would say your chances of any type of legal issues are almost none.
Doug Quance October 11th, 2002, 06:17 PM I think it's a great short for a first attempt!
I haven't attempted a project like this yet, but look forward to it... I hope my first attempt is as good!
Did you use an anamorphic lens, or simply the 16x9 in the camera?
How did you approach the actors and venue owners?
(BTW, I had to download, as the Windows streaming 300k file was found to be corrupted about halfway through)
Once again, good job!
Jeff Campbell October 16th, 2002, 12:01 AM Heh, funnily enough I had thoughts about attempting an adaptation of Vonnegut's "Deer in the Works", from "Welcome to the Monkey House".
Which Stephen King story did you adapt? I have my eye on a few of his and word that he's open to it (I know that someone did "Strawberry Spring" last year) is great to hear. I've been in contact with him about novels but, as of yet, I have no funding or clout so that's not likely to happen for a while.
Jay Gladwell October 16th, 2002, 06:29 AM I think it was "I Know What You Need," if memory serves--about the dying mother. It never got finished, for several small reasons that mounted into a big hassle. So I scrubbed the project.
Jay Gladwell November 11th, 2002, 07:06 AM Earlier in this thread I had stated that author Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. had died a few years ago. I was wrong! (sorry, Kurt). I heard on NPR this morning that today (November 11th) is his 80th birthday.
Happy birthday, Kurt!
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