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Heath McKnight
September 16th, 2004, 09:48 PM
That's not always true; you show your client how good the image is, they'll understand that technology has come a long way.

heath

Ignacio Rodriguez
September 16th, 2004, 10:50 PM
> That's not always true; you show your client how good the
> image is, they'll understand that technology has come a long
> way.

You might be able to get that message across to some clients, especially the more tech-aware, but many clients can't tell the difrerence by themselves. Also, the idea that you spent more money on expensive-looking equipment helps justify what you are charging. If they see you with a Handycam-like toy (like mine) it doesn't matter that it's better than the one they can buy at Sears. Actually I have heard of clients doing that kind of thing, buying a TRV22 and Mac with iMovie and then finallyyhey end up hiring somebody to fix the mess.

Anhar Miah
September 17th, 2004, 05:46 AM
Thank you Jon for your reply, i'm sorry i didnt mean my post as an attack, that was not my intention.
I stand corrected, i should have said that video can mimic the lattitude of film not equal.

Scott Anderson
September 17th, 2004, 08:47 AM
For those that are concerned about the camera looking like a "Handycam", this camera most certainly does not. First off, it's sigificantly larger than the pd-170 in all dimensions. It also has a dizzying array of buttons and switches, making it look much more like an ENG camera, IMO. If you're still concerned about the size, add on a set of rails, a nice big mattebox with multiple filter stages and a french flag (a very handy accessory to have, anyway), a wireless reciever, an external shotgun mike, a nice, big set of headphones hanging off the top handle, an external zoom controller, and maybe an Anton Bauer brick adapter or external Hard Disk recorder, then put it all on a heavy-duty professional tripod. Your client will never even see the camera! You'll still need to spend a lot of time setting up, and then "adjusting" the camera (flipping some of those switches back and forth). The DP for "November" tells about throwing every possible accessory on the DVX-100 so as to make the actors feel at home on the first day. Hilarious.

Anhar Miah
September 17th, 2004, 09:24 AM
would'nt all that extras cost more than the camera itself :) just joking.
Yea the FX1 looks "pro" to me.

Any ideas why its so big?

Frederic Lumiere
September 17th, 2004, 10:43 AM
Genetics.

Heath McKnight
September 17th, 2004, 11:24 AM
I notice the HD10 is smaller than the DVX100A, but weighs A LOT more!

heath

Chris Sorensen
September 17th, 2004, 11:26 AM
According to this (http://www.sonyhdvinfo.com/article.php?filename=Comparison-Spec-Table-Between-HDR-FX1,-JVC-GR-HD1-), the FX1 is 5 15/16" x 7 1/8" x 14 3/8". That's compared to 4.9 x 7.1 x 15.9 for the PD170 and 5 1/2 x 6 5/16 x 14 3/8 for the DVX100.

Heath McKnight
September 17th, 2004, 11:30 AM
Aka, about the same size as the PD-170 and the DVX100A. I wonder if it will weigh a ton, like the HD10! <g>

hwm

Chris Sorensen
September 17th, 2004, 11:35 AM
4 lbs 10 oz according to the same site.

Gary McClurg
September 17th, 2004, 11:45 AM
Yes the bigger the better. No pun intended. I been on sets and have seen actors flip out. Like they really know what's going on anyway. Yes, just in case there are some actors out there. There are some who do know what's going on.

Heath McKnight
September 17th, 2004, 11:50 AM
What annoys me is when actors start making suggestions to the filmmakers. Nothing sets us off more...

Of course, with HD and HDV on the rise, actors are going to want to be more conscious of their appearance. Even the smallest of skin infractions shows up clearly in HD and HDV.

heath

Betsy Moore
September 17th, 2004, 11:52 AM
I may be the only one, but I'll miss JVC's swivel handle when I switch over. It feels so right.

Christopher C. Murphy
September 17th, 2004, 12:36 PM
I'll miss grainy HD footage shot under pretty decent lighting conditions, iris and shutter problems, capturing issues, the swivel handle i never used once, not being able to adjust audio independently, focus going out even though I'm centered on only 1 object with a plain background.....JVC's local support telling me that software and firmware updates are coming soon....over a year ago!

Love makes the heart grow fonder? Not!

Michael Struthers
September 17th, 2004, 12:45 PM
*L* Looks do count.

I once used an Optura XI on a small 1 day shoot - I had to constantly remind the actors that we were shooting excellent 16x9...

The Sony looks the biz. That's worth 200 bucks right there.

I just chatted with Greg Harrison, director of November. He said the actors (Courtney in particular) were looking to work with a "dirt cheap independant" production and apparently the dvx100 fits the bill for that, at least in Hollywood/LA eyes... *L*