Jeff Donald
September 22nd, 2004, 05:56 AM
Glad everything is working out. I, too, like the part about GA being closed. Good to have you back.
View Full Version : Not another Hurricane! Pages :
1
[2]
Jeff Donald September 22nd, 2004, 05:56 AM Glad everything is working out. I, too, like the part about GA being closed. Good to have you back. K. Forman September 22nd, 2004, 06:03 AM "ps-"Georgia was closed" cracked me up!" I wasn't overly amused at the time... All I wanted was a room, and a few hours of sleep. I went as far as Hilton Head S.C. without finding a single room. Except for a Heritage Inn in Dublin Ga, that wanted $75 for 6 hrs... I didn't want it that bad. Heath McKnight September 22nd, 2004, 09:16 PM Keith, It was how you said it. Hurricanes stink, but hey, we got through it. I feel bad for the third world countries...Mudslides killed over 700 people in Haiti by a TROPICAL storm, rough, but not a hurricane. heath Imran Zaidi September 22nd, 2004, 10:19 PM Imagine how bad it was in the old days, before doppler radar and satellite imagery. The weirdest thing about hurricanes is that the day before you get it, it seems like the most beautiful day of the year. No evacuations = deadly outcome. Galveston, Texas on September 8, 1900 - 6,000 people died. I've read in some places that it was 8,000. And it was only a Category FOUR. Heath McKnight September 23rd, 2004, 08:51 AM I helped do a documentary/special in 2002 for the Hurricane of 1928 that nailed Palm Beach County. Lake Okeechobee overflowed and went over the dikes, and killed thousands in Belle Glade. They buried them in West Palm Beach in a mass, unmarked grave. In 2002, they were honored with a special marker over the area. heath Heath McKnight September 23rd, 2004, 10:14 PM And now, out of the blue for me (I don't watch much news after working in it for 7 years), Jeanne made a u-turn and is heading for, well, either the Space Coast or Daytona, but it sure makes a beeline for south Florida... ARGH! heath ps-Ivan loved the Gulf of Mexico so much, it made a u-turn at Jersey and headed back down. Ken Tanaka September 23rd, 2004, 11:18 PM Chicago has been having one of the best summers in decades. The weather here has literally been like San Diego for weeks. I cannot remember a longer spell of clear-sky days, and the forecast for the coming week remains largely clear and sunny, with the fall temps beginning to dip into the low-to-mid 70's from the current low 80's. I'm almost tired of clear, sunny days; it's getting downright monotonous! We really do feel badly for Floridians. You've had a truly miserable hurricane season...and it looks like it's not over yet. I saw a veritable conga line of tropical storms on the Carribean. Heath McKnight September 23rd, 2004, 11:32 PM It's the peak of the season. Speaking of conga line, in Sept. 1995, there were 5 storms IN A ROW dancing out of Africa on a westward journey of "fun." i swear, the storms keep making u-turns, like Jeanne and Ivan, and are likely gonna become snowbirds down here! I can see it now, Ivan driving his old Cadillac slow down in the fast lane down the highway with his right-blinker on and Jeanne causing problems over her grocery receipt that totalled $4.97... heath Ken Tanaka September 23rd, 2004, 11:46 PM It will offer no current comfort, but the cover story of the current issue of Scientific American features a theoretical way in which hurricanes might be somewhat controlled in the future. It's basically a combination of the largely discarded cloud seeding technique and a space-based (of course) laser or solar reflector that can heat large sections of the ocean to attract hurricanes to higher energy (like dogs to meat). Of course it's pretty far-fetched and will never happen in our lifetimes. Can you just imagine such a James Bond-movie-like gizmo in the sky at the beckon call of a White House politician itchin' to BBQ something in 'tween 'cane-baitin'? But it's an interesting think-piece. Heath McKnight September 23rd, 2004, 11:52 PM These guys with a name like a laundry detergent decided to use some sort of absorption stuff to make hurricanes (and clouds) disappear. They took off in a plane, flew into a cloud that was visible on radar, and sprayed their absorption stuff into the cloud. Apparently, the cloud disappeared from radar. Of course, I think that we'd drop some of that stuff into a hurricane, we'd probably screw something up (like in a schlocky horror film/cautionary tale) and the hurricane would become a never-before-seen category 35. heath Imran Zaidi September 24th, 2004, 11:31 AM I heard about those guys - it was called Dynamat or something. I've heard that they are going to soon attempt attacking a hurricane with their moisture reducing material. You're right though - I'm betting this will probably trigger something else. Probably a swirling mess of tornadoes where the whole pressure system gets altered a little too quickly? It'll be like that scene in Day After Tomorrow. I read a while back about how, I think back in the 60s, they were thinking of nuking hurricanes to see if that has any affect. Luckily they decided not to, since the potential radioactive runoff would've proven pretty eco-destructive. Plus they were misunderestimating how powerful these things are. They say that a typical hurricane contains the energy of a several megaton nuke going off every 20 minutes. I think I read that on the noaa.gov site. The hurricane would just absorb it without effort. Now if only there was a way to capture and store some of that energy. Maybe we'd be a little less dependent on oil. Greg Boston September 24th, 2004, 11:46 AM I was already wondering if they couldn't drop one or more MOAB bombs in the middle so as to disrupt it. However, it would probably just re-form if you can't alter the conditions that sustain it in the first place. It might require a combination of several things to have any chance. =gb= Rick Bravo September 24th, 2004, 01:51 PM Imran is right on the money, considering that even a small hurricane harnesses the energy of thousands of nuclear bombs, dropping one into, in front of or around the storm would be equivalent to...let's see... PISSING INTO A HURRICANE! No matter how you look at it Mother Nature has some incredibly beautiful attributes, but...she can also be one 'ornery bitch! The only way to stop these storms is to take away their fuel, so, I propose we drain the Atlantic Ocean! Hah! That will also make fishing alot easier! :) RB Imran Zaidi September 24th, 2004, 02:34 PM Plus we may also finally find Atlantis! Heath McKnight September 24th, 2004, 08:28 PM We'll BE Atlantis! hwm Joe Carney September 25th, 2004, 01:56 PM Palm Beach county is gonna get hit pretty hard this time. Up to CAT 3 and strengthening. Good luck all. Heath McKnight September 25th, 2004, 03:25 PM Ugh, ugh and triple ugh. I'm FED UP with these storms! Where's the Bermuda High when we need it?! heath ps-It's gonna hit two counties up from Palm Beach County, but it's gonna stink. K. Forman September 25th, 2004, 04:12 PM I'm waiting for it... I stocked up on supplies earlier. The city stopped all alcohol sales around 1:00 today, so I had to go across the city line to finish up ;) Jeff Donald September 25th, 2004, 06:45 PM What's funny (odd) is we've had so many watches this year, there wasn't a rush at the stores for last minute supplies. Everyone is stocked full from the last three hurricanes. I think I have more water stock piled in the house than in my pool. K. Forman September 26th, 2004, 11:13 AM Well... We lost power about 6:00 last night, cable went shortly after. Since I still had the generator ready from Francis, I fired up the PC to give one last shout- and the internet died. Funny thing is, that was the last thing to come back last time, but it's back now. Now, if I could get cable going... ;) Oh... we also lost the rest of the fence, more shingles and the patch I did, more ceiling dropped in the garage, and we have running water inside. How's everyone else? John Locke September 26th, 2004, 11:24 AM Glad to hear you're okay, Keith. I'm over here in the Pensacola area, wondering if it's going to head our way, or go up or East as they're saying. K. Forman September 26th, 2004, 12:16 PM Things have gotten worse, I'm running out of mixer! For the love of God, somebody send Coke! I think you'll be ok John, we wore it out. You'll probably just have nasty rain, if it should get to you. Either way, I hope things run smooth for you. Jeff Donald September 26th, 2004, 12:19 PM Our lights are flickering and I've lost cable, but I think you got the worst of it last night and wore it out. If you were drinking Scotch, I'd send you some water. K. Forman September 26th, 2004, 12:31 PM *shudder* Ewww, Scotch! hehe... Thanks for the offer Jeff, but we have plenty of bottled water, and running water too. It's running down the walls, the ceiling fans, the vents... Jeff Donald September 26th, 2004, 12:38 PM Anything to help out a friend. But if you decide you need some water, you just let me know. Heath McKnight September 26th, 2004, 06:40 PM It hit one hour earlier and three weeks after Frances did, and in the same area, around Sewell Point, in between Stuart and Jupiter, Florida. We lost power at 10 PM (though some to the north didn't lose it at all) and most of us have it back in my town. But I hear, as of 8:40 PM Sunday, 500,000 residents in Palm Beach County are still without power. My fiancee Marlene's parents, where we stayed, still don't have it. Not a lot of damage, but I think Frances took care of a lot of stuff earlier. Then again, we couldn't tell which damage was which. Mostly trees and fences and shingles out here, worse out east and to the north. heath Imran Zaidi September 27th, 2004, 10:04 AM Well I made it ok, just lost power, as usual. Strangely enough, my intersection is the only one without power in my neighborhood. Around 6am Sunday a gigantic oak, which I thought would have gone down in Frances, went down. Its limbs were so widespread, it actually snapped a light pole in half which ripped the line out as far as two light poles down, one of which feeds my house. I guess it was a big enough occurrence to have Channel 9 come down and video some firefighters attempting to hack it up. Poor firefighters - it was still very gusty, and their training isn't really in tree hacking. They got the chainsaw stuck in the tree twice. They got about half done and I guess got a more important call and left. Tree's still there. One thing I've come to learn from all these outages, is exactly where my power comes from - which direction and which exact line. Not that I couldn't have gone without having that knowledge. But hey, info is info. Jeff Donald September 27th, 2004, 06:45 PM I was without power for about a day. It cam e back on around 3 p.m.. I only lost two limbs in the tree out front. Frances actually did a good job preparing us for this storm. Heath McKnight September 27th, 2004, 07:15 PM Yeah, Frances did, didn't it? heath John Locke September 27th, 2004, 08:38 PM Half an alphabet to go... let's keep our fingers crossed. Heath McKnight September 27th, 2004, 08:45 PM I think Kyle and Lisa are in the water. Darn you, Kyle and Lisa. Darn you to heck... heath Imran Zaidi September 27th, 2004, 09:18 PM I'm not sure what happened to Kyle, and Lisa seems to be flopping around in the distance as a weak tropical storm. It seems we're safe for at least a couple of weeks... K. Forman September 28th, 2004, 08:28 AM I finally have an adjuster coming out... for our Francis claim on the 8th. Still don't have power or cable, and my internet is like a yoyo. Somebody email some Viagra... Maybe it will keep my connection up ;) Heath McKnight September 28th, 2004, 09:25 AM I have to go to FEMA for lost wages--almost $1500 between both storms. Sigh... heath Imran Zaidi September 28th, 2004, 01:16 PM Someone just sent this to me and I had to share... http://sterilecreed.com/weather/ Heath McKnight September 28th, 2004, 11:32 PM HA HA HA HA! heath |