View Full Version : Movies so bad, that they're actually..... good?


Linda Schodowsky
May 3rd, 2004, 10:00 AM
Since we got the "Movies that you like, but shouldn't have", and "Movies we didn't like" topics going on here... I thought a third thread was necessary. Actually, it could be a sub-topic of "Movies that you like, but shouldn't have". Anywho, I thought it to be worthy of it's own thread. Here goes...

First of all, any movie that appeared in Mystery Science Theater 3000 is worthy of this category.

Any Ed Woods movie.

My favorite "bad movie" of all time... Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!

Any others out there?

Keith Loh
May 3rd, 2004, 10:18 AM
The Core. A lot of it was intentionally bad as in "oh who cares, we'll piss off anyone who remembers half of what they learned in high school science" bad. So once you understood that, you could sit back and enjoy the cheesy adventure. It was fun!

Congo. It has Bruce Campbell. It has apes, talking apes, guns, dictators, ancient treasure, lazers and guns. They don't really stay still too long so it strikes the right tone of bad-ness that you enjoy it. Favourite moment. All the porters know the words to "California Dreaming".

Linda Schodowsky
May 3rd, 2004, 03:54 PM
Got another two...

Boxing Helena and The Brady Bunch Movie.

Rob Lohman
May 3rd, 2004, 03:56 PM
Mars Attacks?

Marco Leavitt
May 3rd, 2004, 07:28 PM
I'd say Boxing Helena is so bad it's bad. My vote goes to anything on Lifetime. I love that channel, maybe because my lighting attempts don't look so artificial after watching those movies. I just watched one tonight about a woman who kidnaps her daughter who is a prostitute. "I like doing it mom, and guess what. I'm damn good at it!"

John Hudson
May 3rd, 2004, 11:41 PM
Return of the Living Dead. Truly bad and truly a guilty pleasure.

Dylan Couper
May 4th, 2004, 01:44 AM
Battlefield Earth for me.

I thought Return Of The Living Dead was good! :)

K. Forman
May 4th, 2004, 06:20 AM
That sounds like any Troma movie to me... You know of Tromaville, right? They brought us Toxic Avenger, Sgt. Kabukiman NYPD, and a host of other B grade movies.

On second thought, they were so bad, that they were just bad...

Imran Zaidi
May 4th, 2004, 07:25 AM
The Stupids.

As dumb as it was, there was some tongue in cheek stuff going on in the subtext which I found rather deceptively smart.

Mars Attacks, however, I don't think could fall into this category - after all, it was supposed to be a spoof of alien attack films. Plus I thought it was great :)

Joe Gioielli
May 5th, 2004, 08:51 AM
The Green Berets

"Was my Petersan brave?"

Stephen Schleicher
May 5th, 2004, 11:57 AM
I can't believe no one has said

Army of Darkness - Ash Rules!

Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension - See the stars before they were stars. Too bad no one saw the great humor and classic sci-fi in this. It could have easily been a franchise.

They Live - This movie has it all Space Zombies, mind control, classic lines, and Rowdy Roddy Piper!

Must watch them all again tonight on DVD with commentary turned on!

Cheers

Keith Loh
May 5th, 2004, 12:09 PM
Hmm, I don't think either of those movies qualifies. None of them were bad, they were intentionally campy.

Robert Knecht Schmidt
May 5th, 2004, 12:12 PM
Silent Night, Deadly Night (http://www.terrortrap.com/silentnight.htm) and its sequel. The Maniac Cop (http://www.horrormoviesthatsuck.com/Movies/Maniac_Cop/maniac_cop.htm) series.

Mike Rehmus
May 9th, 2004, 07:36 PM
Battle beyond the Stars? Love his ship and the Valkerie

The Last Starfigher?

And Blade

And

Josh Brusin
May 9th, 2004, 08:04 PM
O.C. and Stiggs (robert altman, dennis hopper, martin mull... etc)
Bad Manners

Keith Loh
May 9th, 2004, 11:31 PM
You know Battle Beyond the Stars was one of James Cameron's big breaks.

Linda Schodowsky
May 10th, 2004, 07:11 PM
Okay... I forgot one.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show

Back in 1978-79, when I was at art school in Denver, a group of us would make the weekend trip to the Ogden Theater in downtown Denver. I think I saw it at least 20 times!

Patrick MCMurray
May 16th, 2004, 10:10 AM
how bout ones like Speed or the Rock? ones that youll watch because its on tv and you have nothing better to do.


thanks to keith for pointing out Troma. One movie they did that definatly DOES NOT fit in this topic is Cannible The Musical! One of the best movies of all times. Trey Parker and Matt Stone shot it in film school for something like $150K.

John Hudson
May 18th, 2004, 08:25 PM
LOL

Yes!

Rocky Horror and Battle Beyond the Stars! I love them both!

NAVY SEALS
Terminal Velocity
Major League

I swear this isnt a Sheen thing! I just thought of one after another.

Keith Loh
May 19th, 2004, 10:37 AM
Super Mario Brothers .. I didn't think it was that bad. It was just crazy and senseless. That doesn't make it bad in my book.

Mike Rehmus
May 19th, 2004, 07:41 PM
The latest 3D movie about those Kids. So bad I've tried and succeeded in forgetting the title.

John Hudson
May 23rd, 2004, 11:20 AM
Okay, Im not sure if this falls under the "its actually good" category; my wife ordered a pizza and apparently (papa johns) is giving out free DVD's with the order. She picked Wekkend at Bernies.

I was 19 when this came out. I watched it again and actually laughed. Maybe its nostalgia?

John Locke
May 23rd, 2004, 03:42 PM
Here are my three:

Disco Beaver from Outer Space
(National Lampoon film about a huge alien beaver--looking exactly like a big guy in a brown shag carpet suit. Actually a TV parody.)

The Brother from Another Planet
(another alien movie with a Harlem twist)

Lair of the White Worm
(Dune meets Dragonslayer--one of Hugh Grant's and Amanda Donohoe's first films)

Bill Pryor
May 23rd, 2004, 05:34 PM
For many years Ed Wood ruled in this area. However, I think he was outclassed when Kevin Costner did "Waterworld." But then even Kevin fell down a notch when "Battlefield Earth" came out. Sorta made me wonder what "Plan 9 From Outer Space" would have been like if Ed had had a $200 million budget like those other guys.
Also, the Science Fiction Channel sure does run some bombs these days--anything involving killer snakes, rats, ants, spiders, roaches, etc. They're all legitimate feature length movies, but probably never released until somebody at SciFi figured out they had more hours in a 24 hour day 365 days a year than they did available films.

Jeremiah Hall
May 24th, 2004, 07:57 PM
One of the worst I've ever seen was "A Polish Vampire in Burbank." Many moons ago, USA ran that one on their Up All Night show. I think it was shot on Beta. A good bad movie.

Bill Pryor
May 24th, 2004, 08:41 PM
Oh man, with a title like that, you'd have to watch it. My favorite all time bad movie title, which somebody mentioned earlier in this thread, is "Disco Beaver from Outer Space."

The SciFi channel did it again last night as I was channel surfing...one called "Mosquito." I watched the really bad acting and horrendous dialog for a few minutes, until they cut to the giant mosquitoes hovering outside the boarded up windows...it looked like a big stuffed mosquito that the gaffers were dangling from strings. Sort of reminded me of Ed Wood's paper plate flying saucers on strings.

All those strange bug attack movies seem to have a scene where they try to board up the windows in a shack, but the damn bugs always get through. I think the last mutant bug well done movie was "Them." That was in the '50's, and I saw a restored print a couple of years ago. It was still better than the newer crap they've been showing on the SciFi channel (if you can tune in at a time when they're not showing "Stargate" back to back for hours. I've about given up on them, but they're still good for a bad movie laugh on occasion.

Mike Rehmus
May 24th, 2004, 10:02 PM
Don't forget, "It Came From Outer-Space!"

And "Dune."

Bill Pryor
May 24th, 2004, 10:16 PM
"Dune" the David Lynch or "Dune" the SF Channel series? I hate to admit it in public, but I kinda liked the series...it was like rereading the books after 20 years.

John Hudson
May 24th, 2004, 10:53 PM
Valley Girl!

I love this film and had the mad crush on Deborah Foreman. Dude. I was like 13.

Steve McDonald
May 25th, 2004, 12:02 AM
"The Return of the Night of the Living Dead" was intended to be a bad movie and a spoof of that genre, just like the much lower-budget original. But, the actress who played the key role in that sequel, did a very good job and performed some noteworthy heroics. In the college lecture hall where I paid 50 cents to see it, she developed quite a dedicated cheering section. I wish I could remember her name, as I'd bet she did some other good things in her life.

Steve McDonald

Mike Rehmus
May 25th, 2004, 09:17 AM
"Dune" the movie. They used one of our digital cameras to scan the film anyplace the actor's eyes had to be 'spice-blue'. In spite of that, the film was so campy, it was great. It wasn't a great match to the book, I thought.

Bill Pryor
May 25th, 2004, 09:29 AM
I'm glad somebody else thought that movie was bad. Since David Lynch did it, it's not socially acceptable to criticize it. And, I love David Lynch films. Except for that one. I remember when I saw it, I said, "That dude has never read a science fiction book in his life."

Speaking of bad movies...there was a story on NPR this morning about a rerelease of the original Japanese "Godzilla." I have always heard the original was a good anti-nuclear bomb statement, but the U.S. version has never made that point very well. Turns out they sold the U.S. rights to an American schlockhouse, which very cleverly cut out 45 minutes of the Japanese and shot Raymond Burr on a soundstage in a 24 hour period and inserted him into the film and totally changed it into a monstercrap production that helped spawn all the bad sequels. The original is supposed to be showing now or soon in N.Y., with the original 45 minutes restored. Hopefully in Japanese with subtitles, but I didn't hear anything about that.

Keith Loh
May 25th, 2004, 01:55 PM
"Dune" the movie is not good, to be sure. But I did like the cast, costumes and sets.

John Hudson
May 25th, 2004, 08:18 PM
Lynch has never done it for me; although I did enjoy Twin Peaks I never have 'gotten' the hype.

Bill Pryor
May 25th, 2004, 08:56 PM
I sorta like weirdness.

Ray Echevers
May 28th, 2004, 10:50 PM
Anything with Vin Diesel in it.

Bill Pryor
May 29th, 2004, 08:46 AM
He wasn't bad in Pitch Black. That was a very good Australian B movie. He didn't have to act much, just scowl and be muscular, and he did that OK.

John Hudson
May 30th, 2004, 02:41 PM
I thought Vin was great in Saving Private Ryan.

Adam C Bowman
May 31st, 2004, 10:20 PM
Seems that there are alot of movies out there that are just bad. I offer to the list "Fish in a Barrell" those lucky few who saw this little gem at the digidance film festival three or four years ago, you saw a truelly awfull film, yet one of the funniest films I've ever seen. For those who dont know digidance, it's one of the small side fetivals going on with Sundance in Park City Utah.
It just was released on dvd, (I have no idea how) and anyone who needs to see what can be made and entered into a festival should buy it. The cast has had some commercial work, and the female lead was the bleach blonde vampire in "Blade". It was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I just can't put into words the train wreck that this movie is. And you will love it. Ofcourse the three hour open bar after the film might really be what I am remembering as such a great time, but nonetheless everyone should see this movie.

Leon Ortiz-Gil
June 2nd, 2004, 12:46 AM
XANADU - I loved this film as a kid. Come on Oliva Newton John....

WARRIORS - Are they a gang, or a 70's Funk band? And a gang on roller skates? "Warriors, come out and PLAYYY"

COMMANDO - shoots 50 guys without aiming. No wonder he's our Gov.

To many to mention...

Ian Poirier
June 2nd, 2004, 09:50 AM
The 80's version of the blob. Horrible film but tons of fantastic gore, feathered hair, goverment guys in hazmat suits...

I mean, a guy gets sucked down a sink drain.

Oh yeah, The Warriors rules by the way.

Oh, The Fly II, another poor film but the excessive goop and gore makes me leave it on everytime I'm just flipping through the channels.

And let's not forget Showgirls

Keith Loh
June 2nd, 2004, 09:59 AM
Fly II: Best elevator squishing ever.

Ian Poirier
June 2nd, 2004, 10:44 AM
Right?!

Gotta love that.

For seventies sci-fi schlock you can't beat Barbarella either. Also, how bout Tobe Hooper's suckfest Life Force? Beautiful naked space vampire chick wandering around aimlessly turning people into exploding husks. Piss-poor yet for some reason highly watchable:)

Keith Loh
June 2nd, 2004, 11:04 AM
I LOVE *Lifeforce*. Zombies. Space. Patrick Stewart. Nudity. Dykstra.

Ian Poirier
June 2nd, 2004, 11:32 AM
I forgot Patrick Stewart was in that!

I've almost forgotten the classics of the eighties C.H.U.D, It Lives, Basket Case and the Re-Animator (that last two of which actually rule).

Notice bad horror and sci-fi movies are watchable but when drama sucks it just plain sucks. No amount of camp can save it. Intentional camp also is deplorable and never works.

Oh crap, what about Prophecy? Not the Christopher Walken one but the '79 nuclear waste, giant trout, mutated monster bear movie. So bad that it's just plain bad.

Bill Pryor
June 2nd, 2004, 11:34 AM
I saw "The Day After Tomorrow" over the weekend. It's not quite in the same league as "Battlefield Earth"...but it's got to be right up there in the top 10. Good actors but bad acting. I guess they should get an A+, however, for following the Hollywood disaster film formula perfectly.

John Hudson
June 2nd, 2004, 07:39 PM
Ian

You are soo right! Those are GREAT choices (I love em too). The Prophecy always just did it for me.

What about "Day of the Animals"? Don't know if this was a telemovie or not but as a child I loved it.

Ian Poirier
June 3rd, 2004, 11:07 AM
I don't think I've seen Day of the Animals, I'll have to check that out. Sounds like a Creature Double Feature flick though. As a kid I'd always spend my Saturdays watching super-crappy horror movies.

For instance: Gargoyles. The Incredible Melting Man (a classic techno-paranoia movie with horrid production values as a guy wanders around the country-side progressively turning into jello). Humanoids from the Deep and best yet Terrorvision. A goopy tentacled alien gets beamed through this families satellite dish. Awesomely bad.

Oh, and how about Razorback with Alice Cooper? Wild boar gorings. Neither scary nor good.

There was also that string of movies in the late seventies and early eighties that always followed the premise of scantily-clad woman suffers abuse from psychotically horny men then seeks horrible revenge on them while managing to be even more scantily clad as the movie goes on. Started by I Spit on Your Grave, which is a must see by the way. Spawned a bunch of copy cats whose names I don't really remember but probably fit into the category. There's definitely hints of I Spit on Your Grave in Kill Bill.

Riley Florence
September 22nd, 2004, 11:22 AM
Rad. The movie Rad. Another one is Mazes and Monsters, starring Tom Hanks. It's so 'good' my cousin and I rent it once a year and when we ask "Were we the last ones to rent it?" They always respond with a 'yes'. Heh. Its awful but we watch it every year ...
Its either 4 or 5 years now that no one else has rented it but us.

Marco Leavitt
September 22nd, 2004, 11:38 AM
Riley,
If I hadn't lived in Salt Lake City during most of the '90s, I'd think you were one weird fella. :)