Nothing at all
I do think as the new 3CCD Canon is out doing SDI out
there is no sense anymore to build a low cost Viper.

I'm totally stupid, dump; with no education doing Math's like 3+2 =6 so what?
Even can not write proper English, so what?

I do guess there is no market for a low cost viper, and a small group has never the power to step into.

What happened to the Kreines camera, good idea anyway, at SMPTE a big bang, a second smaller one and some smoke, no news anymore good or bad, who knows?

Drake since two years around lot's of talk.

To play an intellectual academic play I do have no money left.

It hardly compares in price, or performance, to a 2/3rd Ibis or Altasens, and if Red comes out much below $20K (we don't know) then Canon is the option left out in the middle. We already have Silicon Image Altasens system for around $7.K.

I am now very sure that sub $1000 higher quality HD is possibly.

Sorry, I never thought you stupid, your one of the intelligent ones ;). I thought you were seriously doing something in the background before.

Drake don't talk to me no more either, we hear they split in two, but what is happening, we don't know, they probably try to go forwards, wait and see. Unless they go in the way I suggested, maybe Red will squash. Same with Sumix, are they working in the background too, or are they don't care to tell us they have cut us loose. They were goign to do around 3K camera for 50 orders, I'm sure the market is bigger. Maybe they find out that we all go to Micron and Silicon Image (which is what I was afraid of) and say stuff us. But good, experienced, knowledgeable, realtime Linux open source programmers assistance to do program on an off the shelf system, is the only cheap way to go, but none smart enough to listen. One thing for certain, everybody after our money, and pricing reflects.


Thanks

Wayne.

i posted some test stills from the elphel camera

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=63677