View Full Version : Your GL2 advice at work...a new vid clip
Robert Pflugfelder April 24th, 2004, 08:07 AM Hi All,
Although I got my GL2 about 3 weeks ago, I literally did not role tape with it until last weekend. I decided to shoot a colonial period reenactment along Battle Road in Concord, MA USA. I played around with ND filters, polarizer filters, auto/manual focus, exposure, and so on, base on the advice from all of you. My only regret was forgetting my tripod..oh, well.
I threw it together rather quickly into a two and a half minute movie just so I could watch the footage in some kind of format. I wish the battle sequence was longer, but it was difficult getting good footage while shooting around the hundreds of spectators. Overall it was a fun and valuable way to be introduced to the camera.
If you're interested, the address of the clip is: homepage.mac.com/pflug/iMovieTheater1.html
All the best...
Robert
Ken Tanaka April 24th, 2004, 10:37 AM That's one fine "first effort"! Good narrative structure, good shot selections and framing, good music selection. I remained interested. Yes, it could use a longer battle sequence and perhaps an after-the-battle tail. But a fine effort, Robert. Bravo!
Robin Davies-Rollinson April 24th, 2004, 11:57 AM Very good, Robert.
You may be new to the camera, but your certainly not new to cameras!
You achieved good compositions and some good camera movements when you tracked with the soldiers.
There was a fine pace to the editing - you've obviously got the "feel" for it. It's almost an instinctive thing and not everybody will achieve it.
Well done again.
Robin.
Richard Lewis April 24th, 2004, 12:18 PM Looked nice. What stabiliser were you using?
Robert Pflugfelder April 25th, 2004, 11:35 AM Hi again,
Thanks for the kind words. It was a great learning environment for shooting and seeing what the GL2 features could do. Richard, the GL2 spend the day on a Steadicam Jr. I didn't use it as a steadicam much, but it was perfect for all the marching shots. It was the first time I had used a steadicam at all, and although there was a big learning curve, I was reall happy with the initial results.
-Robert
Richard Lewis April 25th, 2004, 12:47 PM Congrats. For a first time using the junior, it was looking good.
Miguel Lombana April 25th, 2004, 02:36 PM Excellent work, I've only been able to view about the first 40% of the clip due to some streaming issues, however excellent work.
Woudl you share with the group the settigng that you used, mode, frame etc.
Miguel
Graham Bernard April 25th, 2004, 03:39 PM Superb Robert! You are a natural! Framing and edit all had a sense of pace and drama. Please tell me your setting?
Best regards,
Grazie
Robert Pflugfelder April 25th, 2004, 05:55 PM Ah, the settings! I think I went through just about every setting the camera had. Since it was the first time using the camera, I spent the day just playing around with settings. Unfortunately, I also lost track of which settings I used when.
There was a circular polarizer on the entire shoot and the neutral density filter was in and out. All of the shots in the colonial life section were generally in auto (not green box) The soldiers (not redcoats) marching and preping for battle was shot using Barry Goyette's suggested presets (-1 sharpness, +1 color gain, +1 setup) They seemed a little "hot" to me and I will need to take another look. All of the battle footage was shot in Frame mode. I like the look. I also made some comparison shots for myself (a woman spinning yarn on a wheel in both frame mode and standard mode to compare) Perhpas I can post them.
Believe it or not, I did not adjust exposure at all becuase I never found the exposure adjustment wheel while shooting. I later found it at home - that thing is well hidden. While recorded sound wasn't a big part of my posted edit, I switched between the camera mic and a Sennheiser MKE300 that I borrowed. (The sennheiser wins big time)
If I remember any other specific settings, I'll post them. I hope that helps a little.
-Robert
Graham Bernard April 25th, 2004, 11:36 PM Thanks Robert! You are THE Man! I believe there IS a way to show some of the settings from what you've filmed after the event . . don't know how "deep" it ges, but I understand well worth the trouble. Did you do any colour correction in post? - I don't think you mentioned this - yeah?
Great stuff . . I'm really considering a type of stabilzer for my own work . . sometmes having a tripod just gets .. in the way?
So . . .what next? Re-inactments of . . . Bull Run? D-Day Landings? The Greeks siege of Troy? The great Battles of Klingons and the Federation? . .. . .
Grazie
Miguel Lombana April 26th, 2004, 06:04 AM It's actually very easy, play your video and open the viewfinder, there is only 1 button on the inside of the compartment, press it and all settings as recorded are revealed. If the camera was at F8 and 1/60th it will tell you, I use it to guage what my cam is doing for night shots, I about freaked the other night when I shot some stuff and found it to be all grainy, the gain shot up to 18, killed my shot.
Alan McCormick April 26th, 2004, 06:30 AM Miguel,
I bet you were in Auto exposure, bad move.
Miguel Lombana April 26th, 2004, 12:40 PM I was shooting in auto mode (not green mode) and typically shoot with the exposure lock at my fingertips the view was looking great in the viewfinder and my 35w light was at about 20 watts so there was ample, however the sucker fooled me! I just haven't had much time to shoot at night since I got my gear and this time I lost the battle, just wish it wasn't the bringing home from the hospital of my new little one ... either way, it's watchable just grainy.
Alan McCormick April 26th, 2004, 01:07 PM very true, better than nothing.
Good luck with the sleepless night ahead, at least you can do some editing etc ;)
Clint Newman April 28th, 2004, 06:30 AM Looks good!
Well done
Franck Ler April 28th, 2004, 06:37 PM This is great. I got a GL2 (had a zr65 before) and I am still learning shot composition. I wish you guys of the top drawer would post clips more often. It speaks much more to me than any book I could read!
why not a short clip with some comments of what you wanted to achieve or a little tip?
thanks again Robert.
Rocky Pope April 28th, 2004, 06:40 PM Robert,
I really like this. You have (IMHO) good sensibilities with regard to your choices of music and editing. Very well done!!
Regards,
Rocky
Bob Harotunian May 2nd, 2004, 07:18 PM Nice job Robert. If you would be interested in doing some wedding work, I would like to hear from you. You can E-mail me at bobh@beaconvideo.net.
Mo Jackson August 7th, 2004, 10:09 PM Robert,
Excellent work. I too am new to the GL-2 and have been out and about playing with settings etc. to learn my way around the Cam. This piece has certainly given me some great ideas to incorporate into my own work.
I agree with your comment that you found the custom preset you chose to be a little "hot". I have found so far that for me a colour gain of -1 or -2 seems to give the most life like colour for the conditions under which I shot so far. If anything I am leaning more towards -1 I think.
Again thanks for sharing your work.
Mo
John Norman October 25th, 2004, 11:23 AM Robert. Very nice job. Did you use the electronic 16:9 in the GL2?
Robert Pflugfelder October 25th, 2004, 08:37 PM The widescreen matte was done as the final step in Final Cut Pro. I like the theatric look to it, and it seems to work on this piece. Thanks for your interest.
-Robert
Jay Stevens October 27th, 2004, 11:22 PM That looks great!!! Was final cut pro your edit software? Where can i get a steadicam jr. and for how much? How much for the shotgun mic. Great for first time with this camera.
Jason
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