My experience with Vegas 9 64 on Vista 64 bit has been very unhappy.

Then I installed Windows 7. While my pronouncement is preliminary to say the least, I am absolutely loving Windows 7, it flies and seems to destroy Vista. In addition, Vegas 9 64 bit seems to operate much better with Windows 7.

I have never "fallen in love" with an OS before, but this experience so far comes very close.

I was not unhappy with Vista particularly, but Windows 7 is so much more responsive. I feel like it is actually utilizing all 12gb of ram...it is so fast I'm actually in shock.

In a day or two I may find bugs, etc., and I'll report back, but on this first day I'm a very happy camper.

Windows 7 gets a big thumbs up from me.

To quote HPs Chief Technology Officer: "The quality of the code is absolutely stellar". Based on what I'm seeing it is indeed.

My experience with Vegas 9 64 on Vista 64 bit has been very unhappy.

Then I installed Windows 7. While my pronouncement is preliminary to say the least, I am absolutely loving Windows 7, it flies and seems to destroy Vista. In addition, Vegas 9 64 bit seems to operate much better with Windows 7.

I have never "fallen in love" with an OS before, but this experience so far comes very close.

I was not unhappy with Vista particularly, but Windows 7 is so much more responsive. I feel like it is actually utilizing all 12gb of ram...it is so fast I'm actually in shock.

In a day or two I may find bugs, etc., and I'll report back, but on this first day I'm a very happy camper.

Windows 7 gets a big thumbs up from me.

To quote HPs Chief Technology Officer: "The quality of the code is absolutely stellar". Based on what I'm seeing it is indeed.

Looks like MS got the message on priorities. Vista was centered on DRM and system security and and flashy but non value-enhancing UI. Noble goals, but is putting the cart before the horse.

The most secure OS in the world isn't wortjh a hill of beans if it's slow or difficult to use.

Vista wasn't that bad, but no wonder so many refused to upgrade. Maybe Apple and Adobe's dominiance in the Media/Media Tools market gave them a good scare.

Well, there is at least one issue with me for Windows 7, and that is intermittent issues with internet connectivity. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.

Most of the time it does, and I'm still enjoying it enough I am overlooking the above issue so far.

Well, there is at least one issue with me for Windows 7, and that is intermittent issues with internet connectivity. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.

Most of the time it does, and I'm still enjoying it enough I am overlooking the above issue so far.

I haven't seen that problem Jeff...did you download all the updates?

BTW...MS is offering a 1/2 price pre-purchase deal...

Windows: Windows 7 Pre-Order Offer (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-order.aspx)

That is awesome Bob...

I have downloaded the updates...when I did a search I found some others with issues of the same type, not tons, but a few.

I found by uninstalling an reinstalling the drivers for my NIC it solved the issue.

The issue of internet connectivity is happening about once a day...I have found by unplugging from one LAN input and plugging into the other the problem is solved. Primitive but effective and simple.

BTW...MS is offering a 1/2 price pre-purchase deal...

Windows: Windows 7 Pre-Order Offer (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-order.aspx)

From what I read, one can't go directly from Windows XP Pro OEM to Windows 7. One has to buy Vista and THEN get Windows 7.

Is this correct?

If so, then so much for the 1/2 price pre-purchase deal. :(

Information so far leaves one begging for answers.

Danny Fye
VidMus Video - Music Productions (http://www.vidmus.com)

I've been a few day on Win 7 64 - so far no issues to note of. Am happy with it - will post if anything negative occurs.

If the upgrade requires installing on top of old installation of Vista it will be a deal breaker anyway, for me. If we will be able to use the upgrade to do a clean installation then I'm buying it. Vista's upgrade requires, as I recall, installing on top of another OS and that is something I never have done nor will I. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

If the upgrade requires installing on top of old installation of Vista it will be a deal breaker anyway, for me. If we will be able to use the upgrade to do a clean installation then I'm buying it. Vista's upgrade requires, as I recall, installing on top of another OS and that is something I never have done nor will I. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

The beta install allows a choice of either clean install or 'over' install. Your pick. I chose the over install - and it's performing well. I'm not sure the upgrade 'over' install works in what most believe the conventional process of simply overwriting files - it makes a really big deal of collecting file and settings information, performing the install and then copying over the data to be transferred. Took a couple of hours! Holy Smokes! I'm sure a regular clean install would've been done in 20 minutes. I'm also pretty sure you can perform the clean install without first formatting the drive or deleting anything in advance. In this case the upgrade would simply place the old data in a renamed directory.

If the upgrade requires installing on top of old installation of Vista it will be a deal breaker anyway, for me. If we will be able to use the upgrade to do a clean installation then I'm buying it. Vista's upgrade requires, as I recall, installing on top of another OS and that is something I never have done nor will I. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

From what I've read over at sevenforums.com, all you need is the Vista disc to prove you have it, it doesn't have to be installed.
Just like the old days with Win95 and XP....

Gene, I am running the RS version and same thing, you can choose, but I'm skeptical that it will be the case with the upgrade retail version, though from what Bob says I'm cautiously optimistic.

Gene, I am running the RS version and same thing, you can choose, but I'm skeptical that it will be the case with the upgrade retail version, though from what Bob says I'm cautiously optimistic.

Can't blame you at all for being sceptical - MS earns that with a long history of behavior that'll take a long time for them to come out from under.


Seem like Windows 7 did a lot of work under the hood on file I/O. It just tickles me to see the difference. I have this one .veg with about 64 short clips and to watch it load with thumbnails is impressive compared to what used to be a lengthy wait under Vista.

Read the FAQs Danny, it has answers for you and I.

First you can upgrade from XP, and second it explains you can do a clean install.

This is great news!


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-order-faq.aspx

Important Note:

There are a limited number of copies...newegg has already sold out of the home edition.

There is another thing one should consider before purchase:

If you are upgrading your PC or mobo after you purchase Windows 7 you will have to buy a new copy/serial # because your original version of Windows 7 will not activate on a different PC.

This happened to me after upgrading my PC. There is a workaround that I found but it is incovenient.

There is another thing one should consider before purchase:

If you are upgrading your PC or mobo after you purchase Windows 7 you will have to buy a new copy/serial # because your original version of Windows 7 will not activate on a different PC.

This happened to me after upgrading my PC. There is a workaround that I found but it is incovenient.

Jeff, do you have a link to this? Generally this happens only with OEM versions of Windows, the ones that come pre-installed, not off the shelf consumer versions.

I have an OEM version of Vista that is tied to the motherboard and is a hassle to move to an upgraded PC, but a consumer packaged Vista disk can be moved to a new machine easily.

I don't have a link, my statement is based on my experience.

For example, I reinstall Windows on a regular basis, at least every 60 to 90 days just to clean up my hard drive.

Normally this is no problem, with the same PC.

But when I've switched to a raid or non-raid configuration I cannot acitivate without calling microsoft, because they keep records of this that are accessed when you activate.

On the other hand, if you change motherboards they will not allow you to activate and they tell you to buy a new key. As far as they are concerned if you have a new MOBO then you have a new PC., and they will not activate Windows on two pcs.

There is the workaround I've been using that allows extending time till activation, but I keep getting reminders to activate. That's why I'm loving Windows 7 RC, I'm not getting reminders any more!

I don't have a link, my statement is based on my experience.

For example, I reinstall Windows on a regular basis, at least every 60 to 90 days just to clean up my hard drive.

Normally this is no problem, with the same PC.

But when I've switched to a raid or non-raid configuration I cannot acitivate without calling microsoft, because they keep records of this that are accessed when you activate.

On the other hand, if you change motherboards they will not allow you to activate and they tell you to buy a new key. As far as they are concerned if you have a new MOBO then you have a new PC., and they will not activate Windows on two pcs.

There is the workaround I've been using that allows extending time till activation, but I keep getting reminders to activate. That's why I'm loving Windows 7 RC, I'm not getting reminders any more!

But that was with an OEM install, correct? It came on the PC? Not a consumer disk you bought at the store...

BTW...I never reinstall a system unless tragedy strikes, (or the kids use it). If you keep it clean and tidy they work forever. My XP machine is on the original install from two years ago and I have a 4 year old laptop that has never been formated.

Retail version. OEM versions don't need activation, they either work or they don't.

Retail version. OEM versions don't need activation, they either work or they don't.

Interesting...I'll have to look into that. Hopefully, it is once again, a Vista only issue.

I do activate OEM versions, but only because I build my own machines and buy OEM versions...

You're talking OEM versions that you purchase separately, I had thought you meant oem that came with machine, which don't need activated, I misunderstood.

I've had/used/all three types. I vaguely remember same issue with XP OEM disc I bought, but Microsoft was more lenient with XP as I recall. I highly doubt they will backpeddle on this with Windows 7, but who knows.

Upgrade versions of Vista Do not require a previous version of a OS in order to do a clean install, the workaround has been available since day one, my Vista Ultimate upgrade version has been reinstalled several times on my new Hds and system builds....
As for Windows 7, no info for current ultimate owners, I will probably be skipping 7 for now, most of the new features in 7 will be available as free downloads for Vista owners, such as DX11...Sony Vegas 8 and now 9 has been trouble free for me in Vista 64Bit...

Vista 64 bit was trouble free for me as well. But I find Windows 7 runs circles around Vista. Windows 7 IS the feature, not IE 8, etc. The rest is fluff, IMO.

The underlying code is much superior, and it shows.