I'm starting to film musicians (mostly guitars and percussion) and I want to do a better job with the audio. I'd be working in informal settings indoors, sometimes placing the mics up close and sometimes recording a group with a stereo pair. I'm currently using Oktava MK-012s with the super-cardioid caps but I'm looking at a pair of used Neumann KM184s I can get for $400. each. Another alternative would be to get AT-4051a mics, which would allow me to swap out a cardioid capsule for a super-cardioid and also boom it for dialog. The AT-4051a gets a really positive review in an emusician shootout of small condensor mics, but I'm not sure how much weight to give the review. You can find it here: Smokin' Condensers - A roundup of seven small-diaphragm cardiod-pattern condenser microphones (http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_smokin_condensers/) . I can get the AT4051a new for $300. plus add a supercardioid cap for $200., so it makes it a better deal... Any advice appreciated!

-JP

Go with the KM184, that is a great deal, if not tell me where to buy them...lol
you can never go wrong with KM184s that is a GREAT deal you found on them, and those guys are worth every penny even at their retail price , even if they are 10 or 20 yr old. allways worth owning quality.

Besides you allready have the Oktavas for your hyper work.

Gerry, thanks for the nudge. I figured it was a really good deal but I'm trying hard not to let myself get seduced - I hate to admit it but it just would be so cool to own a couple of KM184s... What the hell, it's Father's Day, I should just go for it, right?

the km 184 are a little bright, but if you like that, then fine. The km 84, now discontinued, are a little more natural sounding, if you can find them in good working order.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Turns out I was able to get the pair for $680. delivered so I pulled the trigger and they should be here tomorrow. Thanks Gerry and Ty for your help - much appreciated!

-JP

Lucky #^%$ ..... You'll never regret that decision..

Enjoy my friend.

Now youll be one of the lucky ones that can say "oh.. thats why they'r so expensive, and everyone wishes they had them" .