I haven't seen this anywhere else on the Web yet, so I think we've got another scoop:

"The product is a log and transfer plug-in allowing ingest of High Definition video recorded with Canon D-SLR cameras directly into Final Cut Pro. The plug-in easily and quickly ingests footage directly into Final Cut Pro, maintaining the original quality and expediting production. Along with the imagery and audio, EXIF data is also ingested and added to the project file."

Read the full article at Canon D-SLR Log & Transfer Plugin for Final Cut Pro DV Info Net (http://www.dvinfo.net/article/acquisition/canon-eos/canon-d-slr-log-transfer-plugin-for-final-cut-pro.html)
-- this is the discussion thread for any feedback, comments or responses.

Chris thanks for the scoop.
I wonder when it will be available,
but I already do a similar thing pretty easily with mPegStreamclip > ProRes.
But it sounds like this will not use as much HD Space and might be faster
(though mPeg Streamclip is faster than Compressor)

Can't wait to see...

availability & cost?

Should be able to provide a hands-on review next week, after the dust settles at CineGear.

Thank you, Chris !

Availability supposedly is mid-June (this month), with pricing to be determined.

I'll provide an update on this info as soon as it gets confirmed.

This sounds really useful & will help take out the complicated manual steps currently necessary plus enforcing a more formalised approach to ingesting & logging. The discipline of the latter will do us all good:-)

Chris, do we have any ideas on a ball park figure for cost? Hopefully it will be nearer to $50 than $500.

Hi Nigel, I can't imagine it costing more than $100 to $150. What's it worth to an FCS person? That's the real question.

Hi Nigel, I can't imagine it costing more than $100 to $150. What's it worth to an FCS person? That's the real question.That sounds OK. In fact compared to the cost of some FCP plug-ins it could be seen as good value at that sort of price. After all you would be using it every day with every clip filmed rather than some exotic filter that you only used for a special effect once in a blue moon.

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd
"Hi Nigel, I can't imagine it costing more than $100 to $150. What's it worth to an FCS person? That's the real question."
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Going by their other plugins prices they range from $400 - $1000.

I think I'll wait and see what the next FCP release will bring, if the rumors are correct and we have native H.264 support that would be great. You could still use intermediate format if desired but have the ability to do quick cut on the fly using the cameras native format.

This sounds great Chris. We currently round trip everything to Color to get 422 but only after a rough cut in native .264. The exif tag looks good too.

Going by their other plugins prices they range from $400 - $1000.That is a bit worrying although their current product would be classed as top-end specialist professional (ARRIRAW anyone?) so perhaps they will be looking for a higher volume & lower priced prodcut for the 5DII

I think I'll wait and see what the next FCP release will bring, if the rumors are correct and we have native H.264 support that would be great. You could still use intermediate format if desired but have the ability to do quick cut on the fly using the cameras native format.You already can edit the files straight off the camera. Even iMovie handles the files. It's just that it's a bit easier not having to render all the time & it's a bit smoother for playback to convert to ProRes before editing.

You already can edit the files straight off the camera. Even iMovie handles the files. It's just that it's a bit easier not having to render all the time & it's a bit smoother for playback to convert to ProRes before editing.

Even on an 8core Mac Pro, editing H.264 straight from the camera is slower and buggy especially when you have multiple layers. I used do rough cuts with long handles and send to Apple Color but I find it quicker to batch convert using a compressor droplet to ProRes.

iMovie transcodes the H.264 into Apple Intermediate Format (AIC).

I am trying to find iso, shutter speed, and aperture data on movie clips and cant figure it out

I did forum search and didnt find the answer

I tried viewing clips in Photoshop and Photomechanic but no luck

Can anyone help me out


Thanks
Jay

I don't believe that it's captured. The best solution for now is to get in the habit of quickly saying your settings for the internal mic at the start of each clip.

You could also take a picture during movie mode, though i'm not sure if the picture captured will exactly reflect the current settings in the live view.

It looks like it must be captured, as this upcoming FCP plugin supposedly makes it readable and generates timecode based on the timestamp for the clip start:

Canon D-SLR Log & Transfer Plugin for Final Cut Pro DV Info Net (http://www.dvinfo.net/article/acquisition/canon-eos/canon-d-slr-log-transfer-plugin-for-final-cut-pro.html)

Merged the "How can I find EXIF data in clips" threrad with the GlueTools thread.

Merged the "How can I find EXIF data in clips" threrad with the GlueTools thread.

Hi Chris,

Our Canon DSLR package includes a panel which will let people view the EXIF metadata that is embedded into the FCP XML.

Attached is a link, which shows some screengrabs.
Glue Tools - Discussion Forum: FAQ => Canon DSLR Release Information (http://www.gluetools.com/FUDforum2/index.php?t=rview&th=289&rid=0)

Cheers!

bob.

I wonder how does this differ between rough cutting in fcp natively, pulling the timeline into compressor, then bringing it back in?

If anything, it seems like this would work the same as importing AVCHD footage ala HMC150?

*Edit* replied to an old version of the thread. took an hour and a half to get to it so post above was made after I hit reply.

So it does look like the L&T per AVCHD. Does the scrub work just as well?

The EXIF data is in the JPEG thumbnail file with the same number as the associated MVI file. The file contains the EXIF files for the initial frame. There are a variety of programs to read out this data, including just about every image editing file (although some provide more complete data than others).

This is a spectacular development for editors. It means that in addition to importing and converting the QT clips into Prores...it is simultaneously giving each clip a Source Name and Timecode stamp...AND generating a disk image. This allows the EDL to know the source (like with video tapes with library numbers) and a specific tc address. You can burn the disk image to a DVD or Blu-ray and stick it in your library. When the client comes back in 6 months to update the spot....you can rebuild the timeline with confidence...I have been waiting for this with baited breath! Good job Gluers!

The crucial information for me in the posting in the Glue Tools forum that Robert linked to is this Currently, we are expecting to release this product for about $100 - $120 USD.
Obviously I would have preferred it to be $50 but that is a fair price & I will be first in line to order.

I would prefer that it was out already myself!

I really hope that the price point is as expected. I will for sure buy this immediately upon release if it's so. The integrated convenience factor is huge for me.

No updates at all. :/

They must be in some hot and heavy talks with Canon to be putting off the release or not even give updates on it.

Anyone from Gluetools would be nice enough to give us an update? Would really like to have this plug in already :).

I would hazard a guess that talks with Canons lawyers have bogged progress down.
That and they recently released updates of their FCP plugs for other formats.

Just checked their site...its down...maybe a good sign indicating the addition of new stuff.

A couple of weeks ago I wrote & asked them if I could pre-order & got this reply:-
Currently we do not have a set release date and are not taking pre-orders. Please continue checking our website for updates. Thanks for the interest.

Best Regards,

Brian Drake
Glue Tools LLC
629 State St. Suite 220
Santa Barbara, CA, 93101
United States

tel: +1 805 456 7997
fax: +1 805 456 7998

www.gluetools.com

I just called Glue Tools, and I was told that Canon is buying the plugin, but no details or dates were given.

It will be interesting to see if this transaction ties up the software so long that someone else comes out with another product.

This latest Final Cut (just came out) is already rumored to ingest 5D footage smoothly

I'm curious for those using MPEG Streamclip to convert their Mark II footage, what codec and settings are you using? I want to maintain quality but not use up insane amount of hard drive space. And this needs to work with FCS 2 - not the newly announced version.

Thanks in advance,
Dan

I have the new FCP coming. Likely to have reports before I get it but will certainly be trying this out.

Oh how I have yearned for BR support. I really hope this is as good as I have been reading.

I sure wish Glue Tools hadnt sold the Canon 5D plugin for FCP to Canon. We most likely would have seen it by now. With Canon owning it its probably going to take forever before we see it...and we need it NOW ;-)

I just called Glue Tools, and I was told that Canon is buying the plugin, but no details or dates were given.

It will be interesting to see if this transaction ties up the software so long that someone else comes out with another product.

Its time for someone else to come out with another product...

Any idea about the introduction of a decent 30p to 24p conversion?

Chris....you wrote a great article in June about the impending plugin from Glue Tools for use with the Canon 5D. It really allows the camera to be used in a professional, organized manner. I heard that Canon bought it just about the time it was supposed to be released.
The facility I work for is hinging their use of the camera on the release of the software for many reasons (29.97 conversion of video and audio, Prores support and creating a disk image of the clips with associated timecode and volume designation) to name just a few.
I tried contacting the owner but there has not been any forthcoming news.
Have you heard anything encouraging?
Tom

Sent this to you by email before I saw your post here, sorry.

I wish I could say I've heard something, but... nope. As with any
corporate move, this is just like watching a glacier melt. I'm wishing
I had never reported it. No doubt it's all tied up in lawyer land right
now -- who knows when or if it'll ever see the light of day. Sorry
about that,

Chris...no problem. I just wrote Canon tech support and they denied having any software for the 5D and FCP. Boy, I hope Glue Tools didnt blow it for everybody that owns the 5D by selling it to Canon and have them kill it or sit on it forever.

Tech Support deals only with what *is* and never with what *will be* so it's no surprise that they haven't heard of it.
They told you the truth -- they have no such thing available right now, because that deal hasn't been finalized yet.

That makes sense. Thanks. It still gives me hope that the one plugin that can make the 5D
a repeatable, reliable tool for professional facilities still has a shot.

Anyone know what's happened to Glue Tools promised DSLR plug-in for FCP? It was 'coming soon' on their own website for quite a while recently, but now it's disappeared even from there.

As far as I know, it's still in limbo, tied up with Canon's legal department. Just a guess, but I would expect it sometime around NAB in April.

Thanks Chris.

Anyone know what's happened to Glue Tools promised DSLR plug-in for FCP? It was 'coming soon' on their own website for quite a while recently, but now it's disappeared even from there.This could be good news. It most likely means that GlueTools have have finally completed negotiations with Canon & will not be selling or supporting the plug-in themselves.

I just had a reply from Glue Tools after I contacted them asking what the status of the plug-in was.

Apparently they no longer own the package & another company has purchased the product from them. They are not at liberty to talk about the acquisition of the software.

The "other company" that has purchased the plug-in from GlueTools is, as I have reported earlier in this thread, Canon USA.

The "other company" that has purchased the plug-in from GlueTools is, as I have reported earlier in this thread, Canon USA.Assuming that Canon aren't buying up the product in order to kill it I wonder whether they intend to supply it for free with the 1D Mk IV, 5D Mk II & 7D in future as part of the package along with their other software. They don't appear to be in the business of selling other software.

I also wonder what the implication of Canon USA purchasing the Glue Tools product has for those outside the USA.

I'm pretty sure that the task of answering these questions for themselves is part of the reason behind Canon USA's lengthy delay in releasing this software.