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Ray Bell
July 16th, 2009, 04:50 AM
Jon, does the microfinder come with a seperate screw so you can mount it without having
to put the camera on rails or tripod??

Jim Froom
July 16th, 2009, 05:14 AM
I keep an industrial roll of back Velcro around. Expensive, but usually lasts 2-4 years around my place. Stuff is strong. I once used it to mount equipment on a portable rack system when I didn't have anything to screw down. One time had to use a pry bar to separate a piece of gear from a metal shelf with two 6" pieces of this Velcro. It comes in 15' roll 2" wide.

I cut 2 pieces about 3/8" wide to match the width of the 5D LCD. I put the velcro on the top and bottom of the LCD about 4 1/2 months ago. Hoodloupe has been on and off hundreds of times. No problems. Once on, it stays on and in position.

About two months ago, I took the Velcro off, cleaned the LCD and camera frame, trimmed the Velcro a tad, and reinstalled the same Velcro. Still works fine. No marking on the LCD either.

The industrial Velcro has a much stickier/stronger adhesive than normal Velcro.

My bigger problem is the swinging hoodman from the end of the attached line off my strap when I'm not using the hoodloupe and the occasional need to refocus the ring.

My first roll of industrial velcro came from Home depot. 2nd came from Ebay.

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I keep reading all the various posts on the internet on how to attach the hoodloupe. My experience has been that it's a non issue. I can't imagine a better or easier solution to the Velcro. The black matches the camera so people don't even see it when the hoodloupe is not being used.

Jon Fairhurst
July 16th, 2009, 11:12 AM
Jon, does the microfinder come with a seperate screw so you can mount it without having to put the camera on rails or tripod??

The microFinder has a hole in the bottom. It fits between the tripod plate and the camera. The only screw is the one from the plate.

Wayne Avanson
July 16th, 2009, 11:41 AM
I have been using my hoodloup/lcd shade frame and iCuff for a few weeks now and have to say it's brilliant to be able to whip it off and on whenever the need arises which is usually does during a shoot.

yesterday for instance filming an interview, I was using the loup to get critical focus then taking it off to simply monitor framing while shooting.

That scenario would have been a pain if I had to keep unscrewing stuff.

I was filming some Roman Reenactors at the weekend and the number of photographers who came up to ask "what's that please?" about the hoodloup… hmm…

Avey

Robert Esmonde
July 19th, 2009, 09:25 AM
Jim.

Can you say which part of the Velcro (hook/loop) went where and how you managed to attach the adhesive-backed Velcro to the HoodLoupe? I can't get the Velcro adhesive to 'take' to the rubber material of the HoodLoupe.

Thanks.

...

I cut 2 pieces about 3/8" wide to match the width of the 5D LCD. I put the velcro on the top and bottom of the LCD about 4 1/2 months ago. Hoodloupe has been on and off hundreds of times. No problems. Once on, it stays on and in position.

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Jim Newberry
July 19th, 2009, 01:04 PM
The microFinder has a hole in the bottom. It fits between the tripod plate and the camera. The only screw is the one from the plate.

Could this be used on a regular tripod, without rails?

Jon Fairhurst
July 19th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Could this be used on a regular tripod, without rails?
It can be used on any rig. All you need is something that screws into the bottom of the camera to hold it on.

That said, I think that a loupe only really makes sense on a shoulder rig. For all other setups, I prefer direct view of the LCD screen or an LCD monitor.

Bruce Foreman
July 19th, 2009, 06:39 PM
Budget not allowing the 5D MkII, I have the Canon T1i and the same viewing problems.

Tried the Hoodloupe 3.0 with the 12" rubber band and that does work, I experienced some slight sliding around but it was easy enough to move it back into place. The main problem was remembering how to stretch the rubber band around which part of the camera. And the "tacky" look of the RED rubber band (only color the 12 inch came in with the Office Depot package) made for something I didn't want to be seen with.

So I ordered the viewfinder assembly for the 5D MkII from CAVISION in Canada. They knew there were some differences in LCD position between the 5D MkII and the T1i so they modified it somewhat. A "riser" part to get the camera up a bit higher, and they called back to suggest that I go with a "swing away" attachment (good advice, BTW). Since this was designed for the 5D MkII even with the riser the hood fits a tad high on the camera and can obscure the bottom of the LCD where shutter, f stop, and battery status is displayed. Being able to swing the whole thing out of the way lets me see that data. This is not a problem for the 5D MkII. Price was $239 incl 2 day shipping.

The eyepiece is a 6X lens group, body construction similar to the Hoodloupe 3.0, and the view is great. Like the viewfinder on a much bigger video camera, image is big, bright, and clear!

I'm happy.

It's not quick attach or detach, does take a minute or two to put it on or take it off but when there's serious work to do I'm glad I have it. I do still carry and use the Hoodloupe but usually don't attach it with the rubber band although I keep a couple of those in the bag. I put the lanyard around my neck and when I need the hoodloupe just lift it up and hold it against the screen, the same way the Hoodloupe was designed to be used to check your still images.

Anyway, here's a couple images of the CAVISION viewfinder on my T1i.

Zsolt Gordos
July 20th, 2009, 12:33 PM
Hi,

I have got a lot of ideas from people who posted here, thanks for that. I have made my own solution and apart from the Hoodlupe the rest cost peanuts.

Now I just let you all know what did I do and soon I will attach pics (no time today to fiddle with sizing).

ok, take

1 Hoodlupe
2 LCD hood with plastic frame (made in China, sold in eBay for a few bucks)
3 Loctite
4 I-Cuff (optional)

So the trick is in this Chinese LCD shade which comes with a frame to be attached to the original eyepiecer rails of the 5D (you must remove the eyepiece).

You have to remove all parts of the LCD shade (not an expensive stuff, so just throw them away), including the protective "glass". The only thing you keep is the frame. It comes with a button to activate LCD view mode on the 5D.

Then using Loctite just glue the Hoodlupe on the frame, press hard, wait a few hours, ready!

If you go for fancies you can spice it up with an I-Cuff for perfection. I laugh all the way to the Zacuto website... just saved like 400 bucks... how cool is that?

pics coming soon

Wayne Avanson
July 20th, 2009, 04:07 PM
Exactly what I did Zsolt. Works a treat.

Avey

Jim Froom
July 20th, 2009, 07:47 PM
Can you say which part of the Velcro (hook/loop) went where and how you managed to attach the adhesive-backed Velcro to the HoodLoupe? I can't get the Velcro adhesive to 'take' to the rubber material of the HoodLoupe.


I put the smooth part on the Houdloupe and let the sticky portion grip on the inside of the Hoodloupe. I then bend it around (cut relief cuts on outside corners) to the outside of the Hoodloupe. I then went around the outside of the HoodLoupe and Velcro with black electricians tape as it is pretty much the same color as the Hoodloupe.

Again, the industrial version of Velcro has a real good stick to it.

Robert Esmonde
July 21st, 2009, 01:53 AM
Thanks Jim.

That's a great solution that I'll certainly have a go at. And so obvious too .... once someone else has done it :-)

I have some of the industrial Velcro but I'm using a modified LCD shade on the camera. Fixing Velcro to the LCD shade was easy enough, but even Velcro tech support couldn't help with fixing it to a rubber material. Glad I saw your post.

Peter Gruchot
July 21st, 2009, 06:42 AM
Glad to be able to use some old stuff:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/members/peter-gruchot-albums-rollei-sl-66-loupe-one-canon-5dii-picture319-mg-4876-my-rig-nikkor-3-5-18-mm-rollei-sl66-loupe-app-2x-magnification-dioptries-adjustment.jpg http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/members/peter-gruchot-albums-rollei-sl-66-loupe-one-canon-5dii-picture321-mg-4878-just-show-rough-position-underneath.jpg
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/members/peter-gruchot-albums-rollei-sl-66-loupe-one-canon-5dii-picture320-mg-4877-quick-mount-plate-any-other-screwed-thing-like-battery-grip-beachtek-will-hold-loupe-place-you-can-use-add-extra-pressure-little-metal-blade-loupe-pressed-against-viewing-screen.jpg
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/members/peter-gruchot-albums-rollei-sl-66-loupe-one-canon-5dii-picture322-mg-4879-rollei-loupe-has-small-metall-frame-where-you-can-easily-tape-some-foam-you-can-even-use-one-existing-holes-frame-rivet-srew.jpg
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/members/peter-gruchot-albums-rollei-sl-66-loupe-one-canon-5dii-picture323-mg-4880-pop-rivet-allows-rotate-metal-blade.jpg

Zsolt Gordos
July 21st, 2009, 04:06 PM
...

So I ordered the viewfinder assembly for the 5D MkII from CAVISION in Canada. ... Price was $239 incl 2 day shipping.



Hi Bruce,

how could you make those folks selling you anything? Their website seems to be dated from 1978 and the worst ever site I have ever seen as for selling stuff.
All you get is product descriptions, they are very mysterious about their prices and ordering seems to require some emailing foreplay before they allow you to shoot (your order, I mean).
They seriously need some web designer who places an order button on the site and connect it to some merchant account that deals with Paypal.
Although the product looks great I cant imagine many people go for the hassle they want customers to suffer in order to own their stuff.

Bruce Foreman
July 24th, 2009, 11:50 AM
Hi, Zsolt

Their website drove me nuts, too. So I used the phone number found somewhere on that site and called them. It's actually better that way as your needs can be more actually discussed.

Zsolt Gordos
July 24th, 2009, 03:18 PM
Ok, here are the pics. The Hoodloupe might look dusty but thats just my untidy work, now clean.
Works perfect. No Velcro, nothing directly glued to the camera.

Emmanuel Plakiotis
August 1st, 2009, 12:30 PM
I would like to thank all those in the thread who described the hoodloupe + LCD shade solution. I followed it and works like a charm. Not only is the most ingenious one, it is the only solution that enable me to use the battery pack.
Since I have found a number of Contax, manual focus lenses very cheap, I use it even for still photography because is much more easy to focus and judge exposure with the Houdloupe attached.

Thanks again!!!

Emmanuel Plakiotis
August 2nd, 2009, 05:12 AM
Now that I have used Hoodloupe I found a couple of shortcomings:

1. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread the eyecap is not very comfortable and needs upgrade.

If you look through the Hoodloupe slightly off center it distorts so much that you can't see anything. This sometimes can become very annoying. I wish there were better optics in there, but I guess I got what I paid for.

John Woo
August 2nd, 2009, 08:54 PM
I received my pop up shade the other day. Removing the guts was easy enough. Next step: velcro.

Anyway, I found one minor flaw in the design. It covers the sensor for the LCD screen brightness. If you want to use the shade as designed, it could be a good idea to drill a hole in the thing, so light can reach the sensor. With the hoodloupe, it shouldn't matter.

Hi Jon, where exactly is the sensor located? I need to drill the hole but could not locate the exact location. Thks

Rickey Brillantes
August 2nd, 2009, 09:03 PM
Light sensor is right below the live viewfinder next to on/off switch.

Chounchai Wangvisarn
August 2nd, 2009, 09:45 PM
I'm searching the method to fitted the hoodloupe 3.0 on my 5D2 for 2 weeks, and end up with LCD cover shader, why?
- at first day tried with elastic bands (industrial one 3.0 mm.) same way with the original rubber band ($20 from Hoodman), it fitted quite well but can move off center to the LCD and to fitted in and out quite difficult without practice.
- then I started order the LCD cove shader from Hongkong, it cost $9.30 plus shipping, since it not so costly then I didn't expect much.
- during waithing for, did a lot of searching on the other methods and found that the idea of redrock micro is look practical, but didn't order since it quite expensive.
Now the LCD shade came, it quite impress on it made quality, let say it acceptable on it quality and you can hook it on your camera without feeling shy.
The way to fitted LCD shade with Hoodloupe, I did the same way as show by "Zsolt Gordos".
Then you better to put in some absorbing material not to protect the scratch but more to prevent the light leak as I did and finalize I would say this is a prefect combination in my opinion, not expensive, good look, fast snap in and out, easy to pack in your bag.
Most of the thing is it change the using of camera when shooting with video handheld, it more stabilize and able to focus manually while shooting especially for the one whom came from photography.

Bill Pryor
November 14th, 2009, 02:09 PM
I still like that Cavision solution as the best of all. If it had an adjustable diopter I would have bought it the day I ordered my camera.

One thing nice about the IDCPhotography/Hoodman, and most likely the Cavision too, is that it's sturdy enough that you can pick up the camera by it if necessary with no worries.

Bruce Foreman
November 14th, 2009, 05:44 PM
I wouldn't. It's strong but I wouldn't risk it.

Wayne Avanson
November 18th, 2009, 01:12 PM
I did exactly the same as Zoltos but added an iCuff to the business end for extra comfort and light blockage. For carrying about, I just pull the iCuff off and turn it round and slip it back on to make the whole thing a smaller package. A bit like you do with your lens sunshades.

Works a treat.

Avey