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Steven S. Miric May 17th, 2009, 01:18 PM I added Follow Focus unit and mid range zoom lens to my VIDEO 5D Kit. If you would like to see in detail, please see: Zenfolio | FOTOGRAFIJA | 5D Mark II (http://sisoje.zenfolio.com/p706557289)
http://sisoje.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p944743734-3.jpg
http://sisoje.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p543276826-3.jpg
Alvise Tedesco May 17th, 2009, 03:33 PM Hi.
Lovely pic as usual. Is it an Angenieux?
I don't have a 5d yet. I do have Genus MB, old AI, AIS Nikon primes, RedRock follow focus.
Can you tell me If RR follow focus works with shorter lenses (talking about eventual interference where focus ring is so close to 5d body)?
Cheers.
Alvise
btw I'm the one who pointed Steven Rushford to your site.
Steven S. Miric May 17th, 2009, 05:18 PM RR FF works with short AIS lenses on my Genus rails with the help of The last piece: Manfrotto 357 Universal sliding plate. This piece was necessary to allow clearance for Follow Focus to reach lens gear on small Nikon prime lenses that I have. What ended up being is that FF assembly is not moving along the 15mm rails at all when switching lenses. I just slide the camera back and forward. Down side is that this metal adapter makes the whole set up a bit heavier.
Louis Maddalena May 17th, 2009, 09:53 PM What are you using for the view finder? I have seen the 5D with this on it but can't seem to find information on it any where. I looked on the redrock site but couldn't find it.
Steven S. Miric May 17th, 2009, 09:59 PM All the information is included in the link above (read the side note on the gallery page...).
Chris Barcellos May 17th, 2009, 10:32 PM It is probably this product, Louis:
HoodLoupe 3.0-Hoodman Corporation (http://www.hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1017)
Louis Maddalena May 17th, 2009, 10:34 PM Thanks for the link Chris.
Ron Coker May 17th, 2009, 11:17 PM Steven,
Thanks for this post. I have the Redrock follow focus unit available for 5D2, but undecided on the mid zoom lens for every day use. After viewing the images on your site, I'm still unable to pin down the make and specs of your selection.
I would be obliged to you for that information, if possible.
Ron
Wayne Avanson May 18th, 2009, 04:00 AM Great looking set up. What's the 'sticky up' eyepiece above the Hoodloup Steven?
Avey
Nigel Barker May 18th, 2009, 04:55 AM After viewing the images on your site, I'm still unable to pin down the make and specs of your selection.On Stephen's site he says it's an Angenieux 28-70mm that he bought on eBay.
Ray Bell May 18th, 2009, 05:16 AM Great looking set up. What's the 'sticky up' eyepiece above the Hoodloup Steven?
Avey
Right angle view finder...
Canon | Angle Finder C | 2882A002 | B&H Photo Video (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183200-REG/Canon_2882A002_Angle_Finder_C.html)
Wayne Avanson May 18th, 2009, 06:41 AM cheers Ray
Avey
Steven S. Miric May 18th, 2009, 08:46 AM Thanks for this post. I have the Redrock follow focus unit available for 5D2, but undecided on the mid zoom lens for every day use. After viewing the images on your site, I'm still unable to pin down the make and specs of your selection.
Angenieux 28-70 F2.6
Production year: 1990
Full frame
production: Discontinued
max. aperture: 2.6
min. aperture: 22
focal range: 28 - 70 mm
Ratings (1-5)
overall ratings: 5,00
sharpness rating: 5,00
color rating: 5,00
build rating: 5,00
distortion rating: 5,00
flare control: 5,00
elements/group: 16/4
angle of view: 75,3 - 34,3
aperture blades: 8
minimum focus distance: 650 mm
filter rotate when focusing: No
filter rotate when zooming: No
max. magnification:
focus design: internal
min. length: 109 mm
max. length: 109mm
filter diameter: 77 mm
weight: 705 g
color: black
I hope this helps.
Ron Coker May 18th, 2009, 06:28 PM Steven,
My thanks for a fine run down on the lens. Really appreciated.
Ron.
Greg Joyce May 19th, 2009, 08:27 AM Right angle view finder...
Canon | Angle Finder C | 2882A002 | B&H Photo Video (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183200-REG/Canon_2882A002_Angle_Finder_C.html)
Anyone have experience with the "Seagull" brand, the Chinese version that's less than half the price? It's available several places (e.g., Linkdelight), but reviews are rare.
Yeo Wee Han May 19th, 2009, 11:13 PM Greg,
I can help out here as I have had first, a Minolta then the Canon and lastly the Seagull. The Minolta is definitely the sharpest among the lot and even with the 2X (or was it 2.5X) enabled, the optical quality of the finder stood up fine. I cant say so for the Canon, at normal mag rate it is fine but the Minolta is distinctly clearer. For the higher mag rate, the Canon is pretty crap and I can imagine getting a headache if used extensively.
The Seagull I had was a first generation and was total junk. There was no way the elements were aligned properly as I could never get sharp focus and yes, that was at the normal mag rate. Save the money and try out the Minolta or at least get the Canon.
IIRC, the Minolta did fit my Canon DSLRs fine.
Cheers
Weehan
Brendan Marnell May 20th, 2009, 01:30 PM Hoodloupe held on by Cinema Strap (as shown in Chris Barcellos' link) looks like a very practical way to turn LCD screen into a viewfinder. What are the downsides, apart from $100?
Jon Fairhurst May 20th, 2009, 03:01 PM What are the downsides, apart from $100?Hopefully none. Mine should arrive Friday...
Wayne Avanson May 20th, 2009, 03:58 PM I hold my Hoodloup on by glueing it to the frame of the LCD shade I bought recently off eBay. It clips on to the eyepiece at the top and holds at the bottom with a thin strip of sticky back hook and loop tape. Works great even if it takes a little practice to 'get your eye in'.
Just today I received my Cine City shoulder mount and Follow Focus. Solidly built if not particularly fancy, and works pretty well. After careful adjustment, even the follow focus is quite good. Mind you, I've nothing to compare it to since I've never used an expensive one…
I'll post a couple of pics tomorrow.
First impressions, glad I saved the $1400 on the RedRock Field kit. Hopefully I'll still be saying that in a few week's time…
Avey
Wayne Avanson May 21st, 2009, 05:28 AM Here's the set up. This is the Cince City shoulder mount and Follow Focus sat on top of a lightweight tripod (too lightweight for this use I think, I would use the heavyweight tripod usually)
I have attached a counter weight from my small jib onto the back which helps with balance both on the tripod and the shoulder. The Hoodloup is glued to the LCD shade's frame (after taking off the shade flaps) and clipped to the eyepiece at the top, held at the bottom with small strip of velcro. The Hoodloup is in a fairly good position for the tripod mounted filming, just by resting the cheek on the nearest bar, but it need offsetting for shoulder work so that it is nearer the eye. I'll have a think about how best to do that.
Using the Rode Stereo Video Mic sat on top which always works quite well for me. You have to be fairly near the subject though.
Mike Hannon May 21st, 2009, 07:22 AM Thanks for those pics of your setup Wayne.
I have one question though, is it still possible to easily look through the Hoodloupe given that the rails are directly beneath it?
Wayne Avanson May 21st, 2009, 07:53 AM It is on the tripod but not as easy when you're shoulder mounted. I need to offset it a bit. Not sure how to do it, But Ill think of something.
I could just push the rods through the front or at least the nearest one (left) or cut them short and do without the weight on the back.
Spiro Hernandez May 21st, 2009, 09:15 AM Steven, I'm curious - you purchased the Genus Standard Adapter Bars System + Manfrotto 357 Quick Release Adapter Plate.
Why didn't you just purchase the Genus Advanced Adapter Plate??? It looks like the Genus Advance is the same as the Genus Standard + Manfrotto 357.
Again, just curious.
Steven S. Miric May 21st, 2009, 02:30 PM I bought Standard adapter bars for my EX1 before Genus introduced "advanced" bars... Standard bars came in a Kit with "old" matte box for really great price... I am about to get "new" adapter bars, too. I will post feed back in due time...
Dan Chung May 22nd, 2009, 05:33 PM Steven,
Quick question, does the RRS L bracket you use displace the horizontal alignment of the tripod hole? From the pictures it seems to move it slightly to the right.
I know this is not an issue with Genus adaptor bars as they have horizontal alignment, but on other rigs this can be a problem so it would be good to know.
As you know I have the advanced adaptor bars, a word of caution. They work great with non extending lenses like the Nikon 17-35, 28-70 and 80-200 where you can fix the mattebox to the rails and give extra rigidity. On shorter lenses which move in and out there can be issues especially if you are using a follow focus. For these lenses I find the original adaptor bars that you have better.
Dan
Greg Joyce May 22nd, 2009, 08:33 PM Greg,
I can help out here as I have had first, a Minolta then the Canon and lastly the Seagull. The Minolta is definitely the sharpest among the lot and even with the 2X (or was it 2.5X) enabled, the optical quality of the finder stood up fine. I cant say so for the Canon, at normal mag rate it is fine but the Minolta is distinctly clearer. For the higher mag rate, the Canon is pretty crap and I can imagine getting a headache if used extensively.
The Seagull I had was a first generation and was total junk. There was no way the elements were aligned properly as I could never get sharp focus and yes, that was at the normal mag rate. Save the money and try out the Minolta or at least get the Canon.
IIRC, the Minolta did fit my Canon DSLRs fine.
Cheers
Weehan
Thanks for the warning -- and the suggestion!
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