Thanks Dave I downloaded via refreshed link and it worked exporter is an option once again!! I am happy! I guess that fix did nothing for first light still crashing when trying to open.

Now that I can select export to Cinefro.avi I have a project of just freshly cf captured clips. no transitions, or effect at all..( just testing) I select Cf .avi setting 720x480 wide NTS lower fields. the import server has crashed 2 times I am in the middle of the 3rd time. Aslo its telling me that its going to take 5 hours to export 45min??? I am running vista/64 quad core??

PPCS4 crashes on timeline render too? no transition just straight CF.avi clips also did anyone notice the PP4 wants to generate the peak files everytime you reopen PP4 it almost like it can not handle the CF files.

did anyone notice the PP4 wants to generate the peak files everytime you reopen PP4 it almost like it can not handle the CF files.

Yeah, I've noticed that. It's really annoying. It doesn't happen on every clip, for me, but on a couple, that I've re-converted several times to see if that'll help.

The files that I've converted to CFHD using MPEG_Streamclip instead of HDLink do not exhibit this symptom.

Thanks,
Matt

Yeah, I've noticed that. It's really annoying. It doesn't happen on every clip, for me, but on a couple, that I've re-converted several times to see if that'll help.

The files that I've converted to CFHD using MPEG_Streamclip instead of HDLink do not exhibit this symptom.

Thanks,
Matt

I will have to try that. Right now I have recaptured clips using straight PP4 capture as an meg file. I am throwing it in a timeline and exporting using CF.avi to see if the adobe media encoder crashes using a native file format but converting using CF.

I see there were 1,2000 views on this thread.. Looks like a lot of people are intrested in the outcome.

Ok after importing from tape to PPCS4 as standard HDV 108060i I exported using Cineform.av setting 720v480 lowerthird NTSC/wide it exported fine. The I imported to Encore CS4 and went to transcode to DVD and encore crashed. I tried 3 times and it crashed every time. It almost like CS4 does not know the CF file>

David,

I removed the initial "last beta" version and replaced with the new "last beta" version. I still cannot open First Light.

Description:
Stopped working

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: firstlight.exe
Problem Signature 02: 0.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 49fb78fc
Problem Signature 04: PresentationFramework
Problem Signature 05: 3.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 48fef62a
Problem Signature 07: 625a
Problem Signature 08: e1
Problem Signature 09: System.Windows.Markup.XamlParse
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033


According to Dependency Walker

Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export function in a delay-load dependent module.

Error opening file IESHIMS.DLL - The system cannot find the specified file.

Also, see attched.

I noticed that when you export using CF.avi and set your setting to 720v480 lowerthird NTSC/wide It actually out put a squeezed 4x3 video file?

Has anyone been able to get a time line all they way thru.

Hi guys

In CS4 do we now export thru Adobe Media Encoder?

Has anyone using Vista 64 been able to get First Light to work?

Using Vista 64 and no go.

Hi Gil, yes you use the adobe media encoder you do a export to media then the media encoder will open. And there is where you select cinefom.avi or mov the set you settings. I hope it works for you.

No first light either vista/64

I can not use firstlight with vista64 Ultimate.
My computer is i7 920, 12gigDDR3 x1600mhz.
I also have no presets in media encoder.

Also was just capturing with HDlink... and my computer restarted for no reason.
Will check the boot logs and come back with more info.

HI Gary you need to redown load the beta the first one was missing the exporter. Good luck getting it to work I have not gotten any clips all the way thru

Thanks.
Ill try and let you know how I get on.

Exports are wroking fine for me so far since I downloaded the latest version.

Firstlight gives the following errors.
Description:
Stopped working

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: firstlight.exe
Problem Signature 02: 0.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 49fb78fc
Problem Signature 04: PresentationFramework
Problem Signature 05: 3.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 470bc696
Problem Signature 07: 660b
Problem Signature 08: e1
Problem Signature 09: System.Windows.Markup.XamlParse
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1044

What are your export settings? Are your files captured with hdlnk cineform files?

What are your export settings? Are your files captured with hdlnk cineform files?

HI Bruce.
My files are captured with HDLink High Quality from my Z1 and converted to CHFD.
Export settings are..
Cineform 1440x 1080 29.97fps 1.33333 PAR

All cinefrom transition and color correction presets work for me too as I did a try of them all.

HI Bruce.
My files are captured with HDLink High Quality from my Z1 and converted to CHFD.
Export settings are..
Cineform 1440x 1080 29.97fps 1.33333 PAR

All cinefrom transition and color correction presets work for me too as I did a try of them all.

Oh so your not converting to SD 720x480 wide? What encoder are you going to use Encore?try out putting to SD 720x480 Ntsc wide Lowerthirds!

So any new updates on this? It seems to me that there are enough issues occuring for many users that I should avoid this particular release unless someone tells me otherwise.
I'd love to try it but cannot afford more headaches troubleshooting more issues.

The full release of prospect 3 was giving me errors importing .m2t files in CS3.

The beta of 4.0 seemed to have fixed that but now I cannot import DV Avi files into CS3.

I was hoping the new beta would fix that but hearing horror stories of people crashing premiere every other mouse click is really giving me reason to hesitate. Any ideas?

For those of you with First Light troubles (CLR20r3 error) please email me so we can troubleshoot and get it working for you!

tbucklin@cineform.com

Thanks

Will you help me troubleshoot even if I'm using Windows 7?

I actually tried installing the .NET Framework and it didn't even seem to install, assumingly because it's pre-loaded into Windows 7 but I'm unsure.

Craig,

.NET Framework 3.5.1 is installed with Windows 7. Navigate "Programs and Features", then select "Turn Windows features on or off". You'll see it listed there.

Regards,
Glenn

Seems I might be upgrading from Neo to Prospect HD! Need to check the presets fix the jerky issue though.

PC isnt slow though!

Quad Core 2.1 AMD
4GB ECC memory (Another 4GB on order)
150GB 10k RPM SATA OS
2*400GB 7.2k RPM SATAs RAID 0 - Media files
750GB 7.2k SATA scratch disc

Hi guys

Need some advice... Since the PC I use to for CS3 & 4 is a dual prossessor, thought I would go out today and buy another PC. I then also then have a fresh install of all software that I hope will solve my Prospect HD drama, becuase I cannot even use the export. All I can do is use HDlink.

What middle of the road system should I get including graphics card?

Thanks

Gil

Hi Gil, it might not be your system. I just had a brand new system built by my neighbor he has been in the business for 14 years. I have 2tb 32m buffer hard drives raid 0 for capture and storage. I have a 1tb 32mb for OS and I have 1tb Scratch disc and a 1tb disc to output media all 32mbffers. I have a quad core 3.0mh. 1 DVD burner built in with a brand new LG external blu-ray burner. I am using a radeon HD video card ca’t remember the series but it was only about $100.

I had a fresh install of XP 32bit and had some trouble with CS3 with Prospect HD 3.2.?? Then I saw they were ready to release the beta 4.0 for CS4 final I think this week. So I bought CS4 production premium suite and had my neighbor give me a fresh install if Vista 64bit. So now we are talkling about over $2000.00 dollars in software and hardware.

My hole goal is to be able to offer my clients both Blu-ray and SD DVD. Cineform has the best compressor for outputting to standard DVD I did get 1 DVD output on my old system. And it looked almost as good as the BD or the same wedding. Now after installing the beta I can not get a CF project thru PPcs4 and into Encore and out of Encore in SD or standard DVD

Adobe does a fine job of outputting to blu-ray I do not need to use CF for that I need it to compress down to SD.

First the playback settings are not there so I can not tweek the playback of the video in my time line to keep it from being jerky, no problem I can live with that.

Next when I try to compress to Cineform.AVI 720x480 NTSC wide lower thirds. PPCS4 stops responding ImporterServer keeps crashing and if I manage to get a small time line output to CF.avi when I go to transcode in Encore encore stopps working. I see a lot of people are having the same issue in this post.

Then there is then there is firstlight looks pretty cool but I do not need that right now and I hope it does get working but I think CF has 2 sets of clients one set that wants the excellent power of their compression and the other set that needs the color correction capabilities.. I am sorry for such a long post but I have spent 30 some hours and was late for work this morning trying to get this to work.

Hi Bruce

It must be very frustrating if it is your business.

Problem with updating to the beta version is it doesn't even work for me in CS3 and I cannot for some reason get back to the old version

So I have tried "MainConcept™ MPEG Pro™ HD" it works great in CS3 and the final product seems on par with cineform. Its not available yet to run CS4

Gil

Well I got First Light up and running. However, that's about all it's doing. I imported a cineform AVI. I get nothing on playback.

How is everyone else doing?

On Vista x64 systems, the HD installers (NEO, Prospect) do not create the LUTs folder under c:\Windows\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Cineform\Tools. Create this folder and FL will run, although not perfectly (at least for me). Cineform is supposedly working on uploading a revised installer that fixes the "missing LUT" issue.

Also, make sure that User Account Control is off. That and creating the missing LUTs directory (C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\CineForm\LUTs) fixed it for me on Window 7 64-bit. Should be the same in Vista.

Once you start it look in the upper left corner under Database, Current. If there is not an entry there (e.g., "DB") then click New and create it. That should create a new directory under "LUTs" with the name of the database.

BTW, this program is AMAZING!!! So much fun to play with the settings while the video runs smoothly.

Regards,
Glenn

Sorry we missed such a simple thing, all the 4K products where fine for LUTs folder, it was the HD products that need an installer upgrade. The new builds will go up to later night if all goes well. There are been other tweaks in the meantime, we are always working to make the tools better.

Created the LUT Folder. It starts now. But I can't figure out how to import an .avi to test it. All I can do is import a .cdb file. Any help is appreciated.

Figured it out. I had to use the key stroke short cuts as the import option in the GUI is grayed out and unselectable.

Go to the File menu and select Import File, or ctrl+I, or double click on the clip bin.

Okay, when I import all I get is a grey preview window. All the information for the clip is there. Unsure what the problem as there is now help files for this. Clip opens fine in other programs. Any thoughts?

Created the LUT Folder. It starts now. But I can't figure out how to import an .avi to test it. All I can do is import a .cdb file. Any help is appreciated.

Figured it out. I had to use the key stroke short cuts as the import option in the GUI is grayed out and unselectable.

Those menu items only look "Grayed out". They work fine.

That is graphic card issue we trying to deal with, it is there you just can't see it, only happens on some systems. The next build may help, but we haven't focused on this issue yet.

No problem. Just thought you guys should be aware. Thank you Jay and David.

Well I installed the latest Beta on Vista 64bit and as others are reporting, First LIght is crashing upon startup. Adobe Premiere CS3 is unable to import any dv avi files or open any projects that have DV avi files already in them without crashing. I have to rename the file
CFHD_AVI_Importer.prm so that CS3 can continue to load project with DV files in them. Somehow this file is goifing something up. Oddly, when I look at the files in that same folder based on an image of my PC with Prospect 3, that file doesn't even appear to exist then.

Hmm.....

So is the new beta gonna fix a lot of this? Also, I sure hope installing and uninstalling all these beta doesn't gunk up what was a pristine clean build of Vista 64 for me.

Good luck getting this ironed out! I am ready to edit without spending half my time playing IT guy!

Marty, we did call that a beta. So please wait for a release for fewer support issues if you are working on time critical projects, or would rather not have the headache of beta testing. As for CFHD_AVI_Importer.prm into in CS3 it should not there, that is like a registry mess up on you PC, as it is not install in CS3 in the last two betas. Just delete it, as it is CS4 component.

Here are the new builds that fix the missing LUTs and a few other minor tweaks, like CineForm MOV files now work in First Light, and more playback thread for 8+ core PC for Premiere CS4 (performance is still no much for the accelerator, but it does help.)

NEO HD http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/NeoHDv401b208-090504.zip
NEO 4K http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/Neo4Kv401b208-090504.zip
Prospect HD http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/ProspectHDv401b208-090504.zip
Prospect 4K http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/Prospect4Kv401b208-090504.zip

Marty, we did call that a beta. So please wait for a release for fewer support issues if you are working on time critical projects, or would rather not have the headache of beta testing. As for CFHD_AVI_Importer.prm into in CS3 it should not there, that is like a registry mess up on you PC, as it is not install in CS3 in the last two betas. Just delete it, as it is CS4 component.

Thanks David. I expected it to be a beta for CS4 but I thought you had said the CS3 components were as stable as always and had not been touched. If removing that file fixes my CS3 issues I am happy as it is otherwise stable. I can deal with the IT issues while I putz around in CS4 until all the kinks get ironed out.

Thanks.
Marty

Here are the new builds that fix the missing LUTs and a few other minor tweaks, like CineForm MOV files now work in First Light, and more playback thread for 8+ core PC for Premiere CS4 (performance is still no much for the accelerator, but it does help.)

NEO HD http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/NeoHDv401b208-090504.zip
NEO 4K http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/Neo4Kv401b208-090504.zip
Prospect HD http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/ProspectHDv401b208-090504.zip
Prospect 4K http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downloads/Prospect4Kv401b208-090504.zip

Just pushing these new links onto the next page.

That's weird. I installed the new build and First Light now launches. Coincidence?

Although the media files I try to import are all invalid and/or corrupt, unfortunately.
Seems like we're getting closer anyway.

HI David.
First light now launches with the new beta and can play a cinform clip on my vista system.
The app crashes when you try to add a preset.

Also my firewire connection is no longer visible for the camera in HDlink.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: FLPlayer.EXE
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 49ff959e
Fault Module Name: FLPlayer.EXE
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 49ff959e
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000e6e1
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1044
Additional Information 1: c330
Additional Information 2: 3eb41395559d8ebaf96ac7ce156c1efe
Additional Information 3: 05cc
Additional Information 4: 5de3820544b8dc6d069aad3b8900605e

I have installed the new Update and now i have this problem:

System HP
OS: XPSP3 - latest updates
RAM: 3GB
Proc: Q6600 (Quad 2.4GHz)
----------------------------
File: Captured with HDLink - XXX1.avi (34GB)
Works fine in PProCS3 - and CS4 _plays fine with WMP

Imported into First Light (same file) - i have received an error:
Invalid File
The file "XXX" is not a valid cineform file or is corrupted
Pressed OK - The file will stay in BIN though - when trying to reimport it FL says: This file is allready in your project.
Anyway - after that - i have opened the PProCS3 project and the files were black. Only sound.
The CS4 opens the project fine and playes the files ok.

Uninstalled the Prospect HD - reinstall - and now everytime i try to import the file CS3 crashes - saying:
Sorry a serious error has occured - .... and exits.

I have 2 PC's and on both of them - after opening the file with First Light and getting that error - the file wasn't recognized by CS3 anymore.

I`m i doing something wrong ?

PS
CS4 is working just fine ...

David,

Happy to report that the new beta seems to have fixed the choppy playback in CS4. Incredible difference.

FirstLight however, crashes on creation of new database.

Cheers, Cam

Installed the latest beta. First Light runs. However, there is no video in the playback monitor on playback.

If it helps... here is my system info.


Vista 64 Ultimate
Intel I7 CPU 2.67 GHz
12 Gig Ram

Dave I had the following resaults

> First Light opens now but when importing CF file FLV player crashes.

Next exported short clip 3min from timeline to Media Cineform .avi setting 720x480 wide lower third. high quality. No crashes!!!!!!!!!!!

>I also rendered it in the time line it did stop and start about 5 times but did not crash.

>Imported into Encore and went to transcode and encor encoding failed???

Question in the media encoder where you set the resoultion if you type 720 with the lock on it wants to set the second size to 540? So I unlock the aspect lock and set 720x480 do I re lock or let it as it is.

I am testing a full export about 45min of clips now. Its going to take 5 hours it tell me so I will check on it later. vista/64 quad core

Has anyone been able to export to CF.avi compress to 720x480 and get it to import into Encore and transcode? CS4
Thanks

David,

Spoke too soon. Playback fine but now receiving "ImporterProcessServer" has stopped working. This application hang occurs during preview/import of CF .avi's. This has only occured since the new beta. Maybe you can shed some light?

Windows Problem signature if it helps is:

Product
Adobe Premiere Pro CS4

Problem
Stopped responding and was closed

Date
5/05/2009 9:53 PM

Status
Report Sent

Description
A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: AppHangB1
Application Name: Adobe Premiere Pro.exe
Application Version: 4.0.1.0
Application Timestamp: 49189711
Hang Signature: 3025
Hang Type: 0
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 3081
Additional Hang Signature 1: bdd14da49edfe7adaa4e800c7dc0eea0
Additional Hang Signature 2: 9b5d
Additional Hang Signature 3: abbf7f3dd41abd851ccfec709ccf4a30
Additional Hang Signature 4: 3025
Additional Hang Signature 5: bdd14da49edfe7adaa4e800c7dc0eea0
Additional Hang Signature 6: 9b5d
Additional Hang Signature 7: abbf7f3dd41abd851ccfec709ccf4a30

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 559669503