View Full Version : PV-GS400, successor to PV_DV953 ?
Oliver Hu February 27th, 2004, 12:16 PM Someone in camcorderinfo.com claims there will be PV-GS400 replacing PV-DV953. See http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/t48618.html
Personally called sale4sure but their salesman has zero knowledge about its specification. Their website has little information, just taking pre-order for $1,499.
If it's true, can be as hot as NV-GS100K. Anyone confirm ?
Chris Hurd February 27th, 2004, 01:31 PM Oliver
That camcorder site you referenced specializes in rumors and often reports new camcorder models too far in advance. Here we specialize in information, not rumors, and begin our discussions on new models only when they have been officially announced by the manufacturer. In short, until there is a press release by Panasonic, it should be considered "vaporware" and I wouldn't put much stock in it. After all, you can't get your hands on it until it's available, assuming it becomes available. Things change quickly for various reasons and I can't advise placing much stock in rumors. Confirmation will come at the right time, when the manufacturer announces the product and publishes its specs. Then you can come here for all of the solid, correct information. Hope this helps,
Frank Granovski February 27th, 2004, 01:48 PM If it's true, can be as hot as NV-GS100K. Anyone confirm?Don't know. Has the GS400 been posted yet on Pana's Japanese site? As you know, Pana's consumer hand-held flagship was never released outside of Japan. So, if the rumored GS400 will be a Japanese Domestic only, then, yes, it will be hot. If it'll be released outside of Japan also, then, no, it most likely won't be hot---going by Pana's track record.
A couple of months back, Pana told me the GS400 will be replacing the MX5 / PV-DV953 / GS100, but then quickly "correced" himself. So this could mean either of 2 things:[list=1] He gave me a glimpse of a bright future He made a mistake.[/list=1]
Oliver Hu February 27th, 2004, 02:51 PM Chris,
I did not mean to transport rumors. As you see, assuming no one lies, at least three different sources indicated existence of GS400. So it seems more than "vaporware" to me. I am still pondering between getting GS100K or waiting for the next US model, but maybe too excited.
Frank,
The fact Pana corrected himself in front of you seems more like "made a mistake by leaking the core secret". With MX5 / PV-DV953 / GS100 in market for over half year, I don't believe company like Pana has no new refreshment in factory.
Frank Granovski February 27th, 2004, 03:19 PM If there is a GS400 in the works, it may or may not be better than the GS100; and if it is better, assuming it's in the works, it'll only be better by a hair. So, there's no reason not to go with a GS100 now, if you can live with the Japanese. If you're an auto man, there should be no problem. But if you already own a cam, think about it. Too many people buy a cam, use it once or twice, and then want to upgrade it with the latest and greatest. Unfortunetely, new consumer cams suck light. My very old GR-DVL9500U's are still serving me well, and I actually make money with them. Plus they don't suck light. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, or replace it. :-))
Young Lee March 1st, 2004, 08:52 PM It may be the PAL version of the GS100K.
Frank Granovski March 1st, 2004, 09:05 PM Well, yes, it just very well could be. I say this because Pana Tech sent me a GS100 pic when I asked about the GS400; but then Pana told me that they had made a mistake about the model number. So, it's all speculation with nothing in stone as far as I can tell. Let's not miss any sleep over it. I'm not. :-))
Oliver Hu March 1st, 2004, 09:14 PM > It may be the PAL version of the GS100K.
Considering US is the larget overseas market, it is very unlikely Pana will release PAL model before US NTSC model. Also they tend to use NV-GS instead of PV-GS for PAL model.
Frank Granovski March 1st, 2004, 09:20 PM I'll e-mail you the pic, if you wish. All I saw on the pick was GS100, but I'll check it again.
Tommy Haupfear March 1st, 2004, 10:53 PM Considering US is the larget overseas market, it is very unlikely Pana will release PAL model before US NTSC model.
Well that might be the case except for the excellent MX3000 which was released in Japan and then PALsville (as the MX300) but never to North America.
One thing to point out is that the sale4sure website didn't seem to carry any other PAL cams and they are located in New York City.
I'm not really sure whats up..
Frank Granovski March 2nd, 2004, 01:06 AM Considering US is the larget overseas market, it is very unlikely Pana will release PAL model before US NTSC model.Hmmm. Wouldn't PAL be the biggest market? There's a way more people living in Europe, Asia, The Middle East and in and about "Down-Under, etc, than NTSC land: Brazil, Korea, The US, Canada, Mexico, etc.
Camcorderinfo was correct about the MX5000 coming as the PV-DV953. I'd like to hear more about this GS400, but I would prefer hearing it from "The Horse's Mouth." That would be Pana. :-))
Tommy Haupfear March 2nd, 2004, 05:49 AM Wow, what a long list.
http://harrisdigital.net/ntsc_pal_countries.htm
Young Lee March 2nd, 2004, 11:22 AM But the NTSC market is much "bigger."
Lou Bruno March 2nd, 2004, 01:29 PM If you look at the new Panny line for April, it seems they took features away from the GS70 and added them to the top line camera. EX: Remote and MPEG2.
Carlos E. Martinez March 2nd, 2004, 05:55 PM <<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : Wow, what a long list.
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The list is inaccurate, because Brazil only broadcasts in PAL-M. Recording, DVD, VHS is all done in NTSC. PAL-M practically is non-existent nowadays as a recording system.
PAL-M is only a special kind of NTSC, as it is also 525 lines, 60Hz.
But PAL-M is better than NTSC (or was really) for transmitting, because it rejects ghosts reflection (from mountains and buildings) more accurately.
Carlos
Allan Rejoso March 2nd, 2004, 07:13 PM I believe the MX500 (PAL) came out 6 months ahead of the 953, and the MX350 came out only in PALsville. So if this were true, it could be the PAL model.
One more guess, it it were an NTSC model, shouldn't it be called GS300 instead? Could it be that because PAL is higher resolution, then it's tagged as GS400 (LOL).
Carlos, this may be the one you've been waiting for.
Carlos E. Martinez March 2nd, 2004, 08:36 PM <<<-- Originally posted by Allan Rejoso :
Carlos, this may be the one you've been waiting for. -->>>
Thanks, Allan. It may really be so.
Carlos
Chris Szypulski March 12th, 2004, 09:29 PM I just received the latest dealer price sheet from Panasonic USA.
PV-GS400 is definitely coming to US. It is suppose to ship in June with MSRP of $1499.95.
Frank Granovski March 12th, 2004, 09:43 PM Chris, have you come across any specs for the GS400?
And welcome to dvinfo!!
Chris Szypulski March 12th, 2004, 09:49 PM <<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : Chris, have you come across any specs for the GS400?
And welcome to dvinfo!! -->>>
Thanks.
I have been lurking here for sometime.
Anyway, no specs yet but it says that it is replacing PV-DV953. They did not even list dealer price yet just MSRP.
As soon as I get some more info, I will post it here.
Tommy Haupfear March 13th, 2004, 10:05 AM The possiblity of a North American GS400 is exciting on two parts for me. One is that if its the equivalent of a GS100 then consumers will have a worthy replacement to the great DV953. Secondly, I'll have an English manual for my GS100. :)
Of course its a great time to purchase a DV953 with it being $979 at B&H.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=276528&is=REG
Thanks for the info Chris and look forward to hearing more from you.
Allan Rejoso March 13th, 2004, 10:53 AM I think its gonna be more exciting if the GS400 is actually the replacement to the GS100. That means Pany would be releasing its flagship consumer cam worldwide simultaneously.
Tommy Haupfear March 13th, 2004, 12:13 PM That means Pany would be releasing its flagship consumer cam worldwide simultaneously.
Has that ever happened?
It is time for me to upgrade... (Just kidding!)
Tavis Shaver March 13th, 2004, 02:41 PM An english manual would be nice!
Rick Tugman March 17th, 2004, 12:07 AM So who wants to replace there DV953 now with the GS400? Just curious how many people are thinking about it.
Frank Granovski March 17th, 2004, 12:15 AM I would hold off until at least its specs are posted.
Justin Boyle March 17th, 2004, 04:29 AM tell me about it. if it was anything like the vx-2000/2100 update then i would be pretty p_ssed to pay that much extra for the cam. i would think though that it would inherit gs-100's night vision ability but apart from that it is a lot to pay for only a minute gain. and no offense to gs-100 owners but i really believe that it would not be worth upgrading to this from the 953 because the gains on this cam are also very minimal. just my opinion though
Justin
Frank Granovski March 17th, 2004, 04:53 AM The GS100 isn't a big improvement over the MX5000, I agree, but it is a bigger improvement when compared with the gains of the VX2100 over the VX2000 (in my opinion). Maybe Tommy or Allan can comment further since they both own both of these models---the MX5 and GS100.
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