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David Newman
May 11th, 2006, 09:03 AM
Well yes that is very odd then, as my 2.8 GHz single core P4 plays the PZR fine with CPU to spare. This is a good example why posting a support issue to a forum is not as good as using the CineForm trouble ticket system, as I would not have suggested a dual Opteron was slow. Please file a trouble ticket as I don't know why your system isn't playing everything smoothly.

Christopher Glaeser
May 11th, 2006, 09:48 AM
Please file a trouble ticket ...

Thanks, will do.

Best,
Christopher

Marcus van Bavel
May 12th, 2006, 07:46 AM
Thanks, david.
Is dv film part of magic bullett?
Bruce Yarock

DVFilm Maker is available at http://dvfilm.com/maker

Denis Danatzko
July 20th, 2006, 08:44 PM
Shot some test footage with HVX in DVCPRO50 at 1080i/24P. Working with the vendor who sold me my new computer, we've recorded to P2, started Hd Link, Converted clip from mxf to avi. Started Premiere Pro, imported the converted avi files, dragged a clip to timeline.

At that point, we expected the files to not require rendering. However, Premiere Pro shows the "red line" above the clip in the timeline indicating that the clip requires rendering. In Prefs, we checked the box to activate "Remove 3:2 pulldown". Not sure what else we need to do. Or are our expectations wrong? Is there something that would prevent Aspect HD from totally converting the clip? So far, I've been following vendors's lead without consulting User Manual. I'll be doing that while hoping for suggestions here.

thanks.

David Newman
July 20th, 2006, 09:06 PM
It could be red for several reason, but the most likely is you didn't select the correct Aspect HD preset. For 720p24 make sure you select the CineForm Aspect HD 1280x720 p24 preset, for footage 1080p24 use 1440x1080. Clips will be real-time if their vertical resolution an aspect raio match the current timeline. Now you mention using DVCPRO50 at 1080i/24P, sorry that doesn't sense, did you mean DVCPRO-HD (not 50?) Are you thinking of upressing SD DVCPRO50 to 1080p?

Note: Any pulldown should be removed by HDLink not Premiere.

Denis Danatzko
July 21st, 2006, 06:48 AM
Now you mention using DVCPRO50 at 1080i/24P, sorry that doesn't sense, did you mean DVCPRO-HD (not 50?) Are you thinking of upressing SD DVCPRO50 to 1080p?

Note: Any pulldown should be removed by HDLink not Premiere.

Up-ressing was not my intention; I very recently got the computer and am learning Aspect. I have never used it and am eager to learn.

When I recorded the clip, the HVX "Recording Setup" menu had these values:

REC FORMAT = 1080i/24P

480i REC MODE = DVCPRO50 (Defaulted by menu, in blue, & can't be changed unless I change REC FORMAT)

REC FUNCTION = NORMAL

Am returning to owner manual to re-study camera menu. Obviously I need to learn more.

David Newman
September 19th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Lots of updates over at www.cineform.com

Dave Campbell
September 20th, 2006, 01:35 PM
Any status on Prospect HD update?

Dave

David Taylor
September 20th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Dave, we're finishing up certification with Adobe on Prospect HD, so we were going to delay a general Prospect HD update for customers until cert is completed (probably next couple weeks). If the new HDLink features are what triggered your question, then get hold of us privately and we can help you out....

David.

Jon Corun
October 1st, 2006, 09:08 PM
Hello,

I am using AspectHD, with a Quadro 3450 and a Dell 2405 and Dell 2407. When scrubbing, the Dell 2407 outputs at the correct 16:9 aspect ratio. Though when I play the footage, it plays back at something like 8:3.

When i click off disable preview overlay, it plays at the correct aspect ratio.

Why is my video playing back at the wrong aspect ratio when not in preview mode?

thanks!

Jon

David Newman
October 1st, 2006, 09:22 PM
Good question, one for the support team as I have not seen that. Try updating your NVidia drivers, if that doesn't correct it, file a trouble ticket with cineform.com/support.

Marty Hudzik
December 6th, 2006, 08:52 AM
I posted a ticket for this with Cineform but I thought I'd see if any of you have this issue or not.

Using Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and 2.0 along with latest Aspect HD and latest ATI drivers for Radeon X1950. I have the HD component out of the Radeon hooked to a HDTV and it is setup to display overlay onto the HDTV. This works in all apps and in media player. Click a movie...it plays full screen to the HDTV. Beauty.

However in both version of Premiere when I enable overlay support in Cineform playback settings, I cannot get timeline scrubbing to work on HDTV. If I hit spacebar it streams to the HDTV beautifully. However when I stop it the HDTV goes black. No amount of scrubbing or opening effects ever gets output to HDTV. When I press spacebar, presto, it starts working again.

Anyone using an similar setup? I tried this 3 weeks ago and it was working. Now, not working. I rebuilt my PC from scratch and changed no hardware. Just a clean install. The only difference I can think of is I upgraded to the November build of Aspect. 3 weeks ago I was still using the previous build. I don't know if that could cause it.

To give a little more insight, when switching from scrubbing to previewing inside premiere on a normal working build, you can tell the output is switching modes....meaning when scrubbing it is showing a higher res version to the overlay. When you press spacebar, the screen flickers and the overlay switches to a different playback mode. When you go to scrub again, the screen flcikers and goes back to scrubbing mode. This is normal and I have seen this on many machines.

However on mine, scrubbing seems to work when I first open Premiere. But once I hit spacebar and it switches to preview, it seems to never go back to scrubbing mode. I just get a blank screen. And this does not bode well for color correcting or applying subtle effects that require viewing on the actual HDTV for accuracy.

Hope someone has some insight.

Thanks All!

I will inform you if I get this resolved with Cineform. In the meantime let me know if you have any ideas.

Marty

Miguel Lombana
December 17th, 2006, 12:04 AM
Anyone using Aspect HD to Export to m2t file have a failure come up after you press save telling you "Unable to Create M2T file"?

I have been attempting to use this method to create and M2T for export to tape via HDLINK and each time I press save I get this response and I'm back to square one.

I tried to google this and checked all the support FAQ's on Cineform.com and can't come up with a good reason.

Anyone?
Miguel


UPDATE: Never mind, found the answer, didn't realize that I needed 1.51 on the system, once I installed the old Premier Pro it worked.

Robert Young
February 26th, 2007, 07:04 PM
I need to edit a video file that is only available as 480 60i .m2v type mpeg. Can Cineform Aspect convert this file to cineform .avi for edit in PPro???
What would happen if i renamed the file to .m2t and tried Cineform conversion? Would it convert to 480i 4:2:2 .avi? The video and color quality are only just acceptable as is, so I am trying to avoid degrading the color any further by color resampling that accompanies multiple conversions between DV and mpeg.
I am also trying to avoid reinventing the wheel.
Would appreciate any help.

David Newman
February 26th, 2007, 07:20 PM
Yes the HDLink tool within Aspect HD can do that conversion very easily. No need to rename it to *.M2T (although that will work), in the file select within HDLink just set the "Files of type:" to *.*, select the *.M2V files and conversion will process as it would with other file types.

Robert Young
February 27th, 2007, 06:10 PM
Thank you David. I tried renaming to m2t, etc., but HD link wouldn't buy it.
I'll follow your procedure. It's good to know that Aspect can do this.

Robert Young
March 1st, 2007, 12:14 PM
Can Aspect be activated on more than one system? I tried entering my activation code on my second editing workstation, but it was rejected as "invalid". I would hate to have to purchase a full price version just to have the convience.
Thanks

Mike Teutsch
March 1st, 2007, 12:33 PM
You can put it on your desktop and your laptop, but I don't think you can put it on two desktops. If you need to put it on your laptop, just put a ticket into CineForm and they will help you out. Check with them for dual desktops, but I doubt it.

Mike

David Newman
March 1st, 2007, 12:56 PM
Each activation code is hardware locked, so that is why your activation key doesn't work on the second system, yet we do look in the other direction for a getting a second activation (i.e. it works on two systems), yet the official policy is one license per installation.

Mike Teutsch
March 1st, 2007, 02:41 PM
You da man David!

Robert Dolphin
March 4th, 2007, 02:04 AM
Does anyone know what level of precision the the conversion code in Aspect HD uses? This would be when capturing/converting in Premiere or HD Link or just converting in HD link.
I know the final output is only 8 bit but I would be surprised if the code worked at this level.

Also, how about the deinterlace and scaling algorithms - would I be better using After Effects for this or are they OK?
When I deinterlace DV foootage I seem to get a lot of posterisation/banding compared to just straight conversion to interlaced.

David Newman
March 4th, 2007, 10:33 AM
If you prefer AE they have nice algorithms, just not very convenient and slow. Most of the math performed in our filters and compression uses 16-bit precision integer SSE2 code per color primary.