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Frank Granovski January 21st, 2004, 03:56 AM Panasonic sent me a picture of the black professional NV-GS100 cam a few weeks back. In the spirit of Fred, I believe he was onto something. For example, the GS100 is black, and the pic they sent me is called, GS100pro.gif. (Note the "pro" after GS100.) Furthermore, you will note in the picture, Pana placed a black-cased FUJI tape next to the Black Mamba, and not a Panasonic tape. What does all this tell you? Well, a number of things:
[list=1] the GS100 is a professional cam because it's black
FUJI minDV tape is a professional tape because it's black
Panasonic uses FUJI tape
Fred was correct[/list=1]
Here's the pic: http://www.8palm.com/gs100pro.gif
John Locke January 21st, 2004, 06:21 AM I thought professional cameras were red, white, and black.
Tommy Haupfear January 21st, 2004, 06:30 AM I thought professional cameras were red, white, and black.
Red, White, and Black. No problem.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-12/74415/GS100profile2(Small).jpg
Adrian Douglas January 21st, 2004, 07:39 AM Why would a 'pro' camera have non-standard colour bars?
Tommy Haupfear January 21st, 2004, 08:22 AM Why would a 'pro' camera have non-standard colour bars?
I think you mean non-SMPTE as non-standard is a little too vague. The bars on the DV953 and GS100 are commonly referred to as camera color bars. I would have preferred SMPTE color bars but thats easily fixed with the SD memory cards (and a mix-to-tape).
Does anyone else soley use the SMPTE bars for calibration? For black levels I much prefer a seperate pluge pattern.
http://www.mediacollege.com/images/iresource/itech/pluge01.gif
Adrian Douglas January 21st, 2004, 08:58 AM Yeah I did mean non-SMPTE but as they are the general standard for colour bars I thought it would have been enough. Thanks for clearing it up. The XL/GL series alos have these 'camera bars' but if Panasonic are marketing the camera as 'pro' then you'd think they'd include 'pro' reference.
Dylan Couper January 21st, 2004, 09:36 AM <<<-- Originally posted by John Locke : I thought professional cameras were red, white, and black. -->>>
No, the XL1 is only a pro camera when you add a black manual lens. Which may only make it a prosummer camera. Hmm... What colour is the DVX100 again? BLack or dork grey?
Frank Granovski January 21st, 2004, 01:17 PM She's black to my eyes. :-))
Nick Kerpchar January 21st, 2004, 01:53 PM Frank,
To be a professional camcorder shouldn't it have a handle on the top?
Frank Granovski January 21st, 2004, 01:59 PM Well, no. The PD100 didn't have a handle, nor did the AG-EZ1---and they're both black and sold through their pro divisions. Hope this helps. :-))
Michael Gibbons January 22nd, 2004, 10:47 AM So all I need to make my cam a professional model is a black magic marker? Do you think nail polish would work better?
Michael
Frank Granovski January 22nd, 2004, 03:01 PM Spray-paint. :-))
Note: this post is not intended for the ironically challenged.
Tommy Haupfear January 22nd, 2004, 03:24 PM Yep, and eveyone knows that giving your lens a good coat of black spray-paint (flat or glossy) is a great way of identifying stuck pixels on the CCD.
Patricia Kim January 22nd, 2004, 04:42 PM Why did they forget to paint the focus ring, which is so close to the lens, black on the model they sent you a photo of, Frank?
Michael Gibbons January 22nd, 2004, 05:25 PM <<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : Yep, and eveyone knows that giving your lens a good coat of black spray-paint (flat or glossy) is a great way of identifying stuck pixels on the CCD. -->>>
You paint the lens directly eh? Wow that's news to me. I hate to think about how many UV filters I've ruined.
I know another guy who does it just by putting his lens cap on. Talk about unprofessional! What a loser.
(Actually, when I shot my first short the (somebody else's) cam had 3 dead pixels. Never noticed until I was doing the edit, and I got to a scene shot in low light. Heh.)
Allan Rejoso January 22nd, 2004, 05:55 PM Thin film lamination is probably the better choice. Can choose different designs too, (Disney characters anyone), and it's reversible.
Frank Granovski January 22nd, 2004, 09:52 PM Patricia, I don't know. That would make a good question for Panasonic.
Jamie Patterson January 26th, 2004, 12:51 AM Am I the only one that thinks the silver camera looks much nicer than the black one? The black one kind of looks cheap, like a Fisher Price toy IMHO.
Frank Granovski January 26th, 2004, 01:16 AM You shouldn't say that about the great Black Mamba. It's not nice. :-))
Let me offer you some consolation. I don't mind the silver one as well, heck, all my cams are silver; but I sure like black.
PS: both my car and motorcycle are silver. Hope this helps. :-))
Patricia Kim January 26th, 2004, 02:54 AM Ouch. Did someone really say that about the Black Mamba? And I was trying to be so diplomatic in pointing out how nice the Silver Shadow looks with my titanium powerbook.
Allan Rejoso January 26th, 2004, 02:59 AM I havent seen any official figures yet but my guess is, the silver must have outsold the black by at least 20 to 1. The reason. I think the availability ratio between silver and black is something like 100:1.
I feel the black mamba would have looked even cooler if not for that grayish focus ring.
Patricia Kim January 26th, 2004, 03:49 AM Actually, the black version is cool-looking in person. Black makes it look even more compact - and all that power in a small package adds to the coolness. For titanium powerbook owners, however, I highly recommend silver (it's really not silver - the exterior of the lcd looks like titanium and the eyepiece and grip on the right hand side are almost the same color as the keyboard on the powerbook). Maybe I'll start calling it the Titanium Tiger instead of the Silver Shadow. How's that for hype?
Frank Granovski January 26th, 2004, 04:20 AM Titanium Tiger is very good hype, but I'm afraid that Black Mamba still sounds better. :-))
Nick Kerpchar January 26th, 2004, 07:30 AM Too bad there is not one in yellow and black. It could be called "The Killer Bee".
Frank Granovski January 26th, 2004, 07:38 AM Now that's a good one. Don't go suggesting this to Panasonic. They might get an idea, and then Heaven help us all. :-))
Though I'm sure many people would end up buying such a bee-looking cam. Just to bee different. ;))
Nick Kerpchar January 27th, 2004, 07:28 AM Bee-autiful Frank. :)
Allan Rejoso January 27th, 2004, 07:40 PM Out of topic but anyway.
I got info from Bic Camera (one of the biggest electronic retailers in Japan) that regular production of the GS100K has ended and they dont have any stock at the moment. Limited stocks of the cam would still be made available for a while of course.
Paul Jason January 27th, 2004, 10:16 PM Why would Panasonic do that?
Allan Rejoso January 27th, 2004, 10:27 PM Perhaps Pany doesnt want to reduce the price of the GS100 any further and compete with the upcoming GS200.
Langston Sessoms January 27th, 2004, 11:48 PM i thought the GS200 was a different class of camcorder.
Allan Rejoso January 28th, 2004, 02:13 AM The GS100 is clearly a higher class cam but when Pany Japan starts marketing this new ultra-compact 3-CCD with its new universal design that is easy to use, easy to understand and safe even for grannys and children, not to mention a brand new model with an attractive price, then even the great black mamba would lose its sting in the Jap market.
I just re-read the specs of the GS200. It doesn't even mention anything about manual WB setting.
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