I realize little DVC30 information has been released, but has anyone come across any info about its iris?

I'm curious because I took to heart Tom's discriptions of those lovely 2-blade iris systems on some new cams.

I'm not sure if this information has been out or not. Thought I would post it anyway. http://www.digitalproducer.com/2004/02_feb/news/02_02/panasonic022.htm

Other than that press release, there is no additional info about the camera at Panasonics site. Maybe I don't know how to search right or something.

Didn't I read that this cam will be out March 4th? It's funny that Pana hasn't posted more info about it, since it's release date is only a month away.

what are your guesses as to what it'll actually sell for online/ at b&h

well guys correct me if i am wrong but this camera looks a lot similer to the dvx-100 to me. are they the same ccds also. i don't know but it would be a killer cam if the low light was as good as the likes of gl2 and vx2000. If i could get a dvx-100 for half the price without cinema features i would be stoked. also with 16x zoom.
Justin

...are they the same ccds also.The same CCDs as the DVX100? No. 1/4" is smaller than 1/3".

As good a low light as the GL2 and VX2000? Nobody knows except the Pana factory people.what are your guesses as to what it'll actually sell for online/at b&hI would just call B&H and ask them. They should have an idea.

I'm still curious about the DVC30's iris, though. :-))

If i could get a dvx-100 for half the price without cinema features

You'd also be losing progressive scan in favor of frame mode. Not that there is a problem with frame mode as I rather like it.

My guess is that its low light will be similar to the GL2.

I don't know if these pics have been posted here.. I saw them at another forum:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20040204/pana01.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20040204/pana02.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20040204/pana03.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20040204/pana04.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20040204/pana12.jpg

Also a link to pana jpn website (it has complete specs.. click 2nd link on the left panel):
http://panasonic.biz/sav/camera/ag-dvc30/ag-dvc30.html
DVC30's min illumination: 4 lux�iF1.6 at 18dB)

Taufik, welcome to the forums and thanks for the quality pics of the DVC30!

Where are the specs on that site? All I see are pictures and non-English text.

they're here http://panasonic.biz/sav/camera/ag-dvc30/ag-dvc30_t.html

Thanks, but both my browsers only show this: 110�i•��j�~116�i�‚‚³�j�~253�i‰œ�s‚«�jm

you can run it thru http://altavista.com the translator there

Thanks again. But what for? If this cam is intended for the English world also, Pana should have made this info available in English. Perhaps they haven't gotton 'round to it as with exporting their GS100 (and MX350 and MX3000 etc). :-((

You can get a copy in English on my site (http://fortvir.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2&min=10&orderby=titleA&show=10).

Thanks. But when I go to your link, all I get is a dark blue background. Maybe I'll try my other browser.

Same thing with my other browser. :-((

Frank,
Don't know why, it seems ok to me??

However, try this direct link
www.fortvir.net/downloads/DVC30_specs.pdf

Here is something I find interesting on the DVCPRO page of the link that was posted earlier in this thread

http://panasonic.biz/sav/camera/ag-dvc30/ag-dvc30.html

It lists Pana cameras from the 30 to the 100 and above but it doesnt show the 80 at all. Does this hint discontinued status is comming for the 80?

If that is so, then it's bad news for the PD170.

If that is so, then it's bad news for the PD170.

You mean good news for Sony. A shame because it looked like a an affordable alternative to the PD170/VX2100 as long as you didn't need 24p/30p like its big brother.

I meant that the DVC80's may be going for cheaper, while remaining stocks last---you know, like with the PV-DV852 and AG-EZ50U.

Good point and I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the price. Especially when the DVC30 hits the scene.

$2199? not bad.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=277532&is=REG

also includes B&H $100 gift card, so actually $2099!

n/m

I'm still wondering about what kind of iris is used on the DVC30. Anyone?

no idea frank, but does anyone knwo what kinda batery it takes?? is it liek the mx500/dvx??? or GS series??

Sorry, I don't know, but I'm sure we'll both find out soon after Allan reads your question.

http://www.panasonic.com/pbds/subcat/products/cams_ccorders/f_ag-dvc30.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=316090&is=REG

Pansonic and B&H has started listing the dvc30.

Uh huh and B&H has the list price $200 more than Panasonic. That's pretty funny.

i think that is because they are adding an extra battery and carrying case.

Hi,

I think the most interesting unanswered question on this cam is what is the 16:9 like? Is it the 'full pixel' 16:9 like the MX-500 or is it just 'squeeze' and masking it like the DVX-100? I have the (english) pdf brochure on this thing and there's not a mention of 16:9 anywhere. It's encouraging that it has 1/4" chips rather than the 1/6" - so I'm guessing a comparable or better-than performance than the pdx-10 - a market (it seems to me) to be squarely aimed at.

I have to say, from the brochure pics, this is one of the blackest, ugliest, bush-pig looking cams I've ever seen - and I think I want one on that basis alone! :)

Best,

DW.

no idea frank, but does anyone knwo what kinda batery it takes?? is it liek the mx500/dvx??? or GS series??


It uses the same batt as the MX500. VBD33/35/55 series.

Based on available info, it will have both letterboxed and squeezed 16:9 mode. Simulated shots shown in the Jap site indicate a reduction in vertical angle of view and no gains in horizontal angle of view

B&H has the dvc30 listed for $2199.

Is that with or without the XLR adaptor (that docking type station)?

Frank,
My understanding is that the XLR adapter, microphone, hood, etc. are all additional cost items.

Here is the most info i have seen on this cam. Best thing to do is download the file to your computer and load it from there. There is considerable lag from the site itself.

The zero lux IR recording mode is very interseting.

http://panasonic.co.jp/bsd/sales_o/02products/products/ag-dvc30/ag-dvc30-p1.pdf

Does that PDF file say what kind of iris the DVC30 has?

Pick-up Device: 1/4-inch interline transfer type CCD x 3
Picture Elements: Total: 410,000 pixels
Effective: 380,000 pixels (horizontal pixel shift system)
Lens: Leica DICOMAR lens with optical image stabilizer,
motorized/manual mode switching, 16x zoom
F 1.6 (f = 4.1 to 65.6 mm) (35 mm equivalent: 39.5 to 632 mm)
Filter Diameter: 43 mm
Optical Color Separation: Prism system
ND Filter: Auto On/Off by IRIS
Gain Selection: 0, +3, +6, +9, +12, +15, +18 dB
Shutter Speeds: 1/60, 1/100, 1/120, 1/180, 1/250, 1/350, 1/500, 1/750,
1/1000, 1/1500, 1/2000, 1/3000, 1/4000, 1/8000 sec.
Synchro Scan Shutter Speeds: 1/60.3 to 1/250.0.sec.
Slow Shutter Speeds: 1/4, 1/8, 1/15, 1/30 sec.
Minimum luminance: 4 lux (F 1.6, 18 dB gain, 50 IRE video output)

No mention of the iris, huh?

I'm sorry Frank. The publication doesn't say, nor is there an illustration. However, an educated guess is that it is a 2 blade just like the MX500, MX5000, PD953. It is manually controllable.

Tom Hardwick isn't going to be too happy hearing that. :-))

is anyone gonna get this considering the dvc80 is cheaper?

I believe the DVC80 will disappear. 16x zoom...nice. A lot of folks will be interested in the cine-gamma frame mode...supposedly similar to the DVX100, and a carryover from the GS100K. It is a lot cuter and can be somewhat stripped down to make it look like a consumer cam (although Frank will be happy to hear that it is BLACK). I am disappointed that they gutted the 16:9 mode. I won't buy it for that reason alone.

Yep. 16x lens does it for me. The DVC80 10x lens is not very good for wildlife video. The DVC30 with 2x converter lens would get out to 32x which is just about right for me. If the image quality is as good as the GL2 the choice is clear since the DVC30 has several beneficial features that the GL2 does not. Also, they are not that far apart in price. After a few months they should be even closer.

Regards,

Mark W.

Three (3) blade iris with built-in ND filter.

DVC30 or VX2100 or GL2???

Hey Guy,

Nice waterfall shots on your web page. Take a look at Mark Morrison's guide to "Waterfall Walks and Drives in Georgia...". I think they have it at the Inn up at Amicolola. If not, I saw it at the store atop Neel's Gap. It gives all the detailed directions to some popular and mainly hard to find waterfalls in N. Ga.

Regards,

Mark