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Mike Butler December 22nd, 2003, 05:06 PM True, Helen, Nikon lenses fit back to "prehistoric" days, where Canon mounts have changed. My friend's AE1 has lenses that won't fit anything new.
Having said that, at this point in history when I was shopping for a digital SLR, I was already invested in the Canon EF mount on the film side, which is one reason why I didn't give the Nikon D100 greater consideration. My "non-digital" lenses and speedlight all transferred over to the 10D very nicely, whereas I would have had to buy all new if I had switched brands. Let's hope that Canon stick to their present mounts, now that the EOS family of systems is SOOOO popular.
Steven Digges December 22nd, 2003, 08:44 PM Canon is a company with a clear commitment to being a leader in technological innovations. Their one and only major change in many years of lens mount design came as a result of that commitment. Nikon leveraged that change by reminding everyone that their mount had not changed. Several years later, now that the dust has settled, it is clear to me that Canon made the best decision and Nikon is still trying to figure out how to adapt new technology to an old infrastructure, imho.
Digital Rebel users or others considering stepping up to Canon DSLR bodies can rest assured Canon will not be changing lens mount design again soon, it will happen when technology justifies a significant change. Changing something this important does not sell more lenses as some suspect, it can alienate your customers who Canon understands have made a significant investment in their glass products.
Here is a list of the improvements the Canon lens mount change facilitated http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/technology/lensmount.html
Helen,
I enjoy your informative responses very much. I think you may be someone that will understand this light hearted comment from me. After converting from Nikon to Canon systems one of the hardest things for me to get used to was using a lens that does not have an aperture ring! I still find my fingers habitually searching for that all important device that is no longer on the lens. Maybe it is just that my fingers are numb from the investment I made in Mike's great liquor company.
Steve
Helen Bach December 24th, 2003, 04:58 AM Absolutely true that Nikon's loyalty to an ancient lens mount is a bit of a millstone - well at least it is round. Aren't Canon on their third mount - FL, FD, EF?
I thought that the Digital Rebel has a 'modified' EF mount, so that the new range of lenses made/to be made for the D-R- wont fit the rest of the EOS line because the mirror will foul the rear of the lens. So if you want to invest in lenses, dont buy the 18-55 made for the D-R-?
Best,
Helen
Steven Digges December 24th, 2003, 10:33 AM Well I guess that is twice in 7 days I have posted responses with flawed information. Maybe one of my new years resolutions will be to just keep my mouth shut here unless I absolutely know what I am talking about.
I do not shoot with a Digital Rebel, I have 2 10D’s, EOS1n and an EOS3 and only “L’ series glass. I thought the new Rebel lenses were just cheaper construction to make them affordable for the consumer. I apologize for my poor information. Next time I will shut up or do the homework before pounding out a response.
Steve
Jeff Donald December 24th, 2003, 11:39 AM Technically the mount didn't change. Many people are modifying the EF-S lens by cutting off the small plastic extension and using it on other models.
Nikon also changed their mounts several years ago. The newer G(?) series lenses won't fit on older bodies. Newer bodies (N80, N75, others ?) won't accept older lenses.
Canon made a wise decision in changing from the manual FL, FD mounts to the EF mount. The larger diameter lens mount enabled Canon to introduce USM and IS technology in 35mm bodies (both world firsts). Nikon had to spend considerably more R & D dollars to develop Silent Wave and VR technology because of their allegiance to the F mount. The delayed introduction of both technologies has cost Nikon both dollars and market share. Many consider this the fall of Nikon dominance in professional circles. Attend any major sporting event and you'll only see a few black Nikon tele's in a sea of Canon white tele's.
Steven Digges December 24th, 2003, 11:44 AM Thank you Jeff, that is exactly what I tried to say, only you said it better, and with the correct information, as usual. I am serious about being more careful about what I post.
Steve
Jeff Donald December 24th, 2003, 12:07 PM It's easy to get confused about this stuff if you don't face it on a daily basis. I've got students all the time trying to figure lens issues out. I'm not even sure I'm 100% correct all the time, anymore.
Steven Digges December 24th, 2003, 12:32 PM I find keeping up with technology to be one of my greatest challenges. Especially when my job entails having to work in so many aspects of it these days. Video, audio, lighting, postproduction, projection and stills. Life was much simpler when all I did for a living was shoot stills 15 years ago. I am very much aware that I am now a jack of many trades.
Being a member of this community is a big deal to me, it helps me keep up with that technology curve.
Thank You Jeff, and Merry Christmas to all.
Steve
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