If you run Default Folder X At start up none of your Applications will run, including Finder. Disable Default Folder X in System Preferences.

Whoa! Thanks for the warning. You may want to make that a permanent thing up top of this thread.

heath

The steps to correctly upgrade from 10.2.X to Panther, 10.3

1.) Boot into single user and run fsck -y.

2.) Reboot out of single user

3.) Start up Disk Utility and repair permission on the drive.

4.) Reboot and run 10.3 installer disk 1 (machine will reboot).

5.) Run 10.3 installer (this should happen automatically).

6.) Insert disks in the order asked. The machine will reboot at the end of the install sequence. After reboot insert any disks asked for.

7.) At the end of the install sequence reboot the machine and run fsck-y. If it won't run, try fsck -f

8.) Run Disk Utilities and at the end reboot computer.

9.) If there are problems (finder quits etc.) run Disk Utilities again and repair the permissions again. I had to repair permissions 3 times in a row to get the OS stable.

10.) Make sure Default Folder X is uninstalled or disabled or version 1.9 or you will have major problems.

how do i acess fsck -y?

and what does it do

At startup hold down the Apple key, option key and S key. This will launch single user mode. After about 30 seconds the prompt will appear and type fsck -y (yes there is a space between k and y). The system will check directories and such and if it report OK, reboot the computer. If it said it repaired the HD then run fsck -y again. Keep running it until HD OK appears. If after 6 to 10 attempts it does not report HD OK you have serious problems. Run Disk Warrior and repair the drive.

is this any different than repairing permissions

Yes, two separate functions. That's why you have to run both operations before and after the upgrade.

thanks
i havent gotten panther yet...still waiting to get my free copy :)

(apple employee)

I wasn't clear on this. When you're in Single User mode and you need to reboot, just type reboot at the prompt.

Jeff,

Did you run a clean install, an archive and install, or just an update installation?

Jeff,

Does that same warning and same instructions apply to upgrading to 10.3 from 10.1.5?

I've had less (almost none) problems using Clean Install. However, my laptop didn't have enough room to do a Clean Install, so I had to do an update. Thanks for catching that. Clean Install is almost always the most trouble free method of installing a new OS.

Hmmm... maybe I should wait until Apple fixes this bug before I buy. I don't like paying for software that has not been tested. 10.2.8, Quicktime 6.4. What is Apple doing? Are they just trying to get things "out the door" as soon as possible? In my experience it's always been painless to upgrade the OS, and there was no danger of rendering the entire thing helpless.

This is not an Apple bug. Many of these 3rd party software applications do not follow Apple Developer guidelines. The end results is that when Apple upgrades, the hack bites the developers (and users) in the *ss.

<<<-- Originally posted by Alan Tran : thanks
i havent gotten panther yet...still waiting to get my free copy :)

(apple employee) -->>>

Hee hee!

I am tempted to get the educational version ($69) or should I say have my wife (a teacher) get it.

what is default folder X??

Shareware application to organize files and saving files. It is not Apple/Mac OS software.

now that I have got your attention do you have any idea what is wrong with my voice over tool??(see topic)

I just bought a new apple g5.

Is it okay that the company installed whatever the current panther is (as a first time brand new install?). Or do i need to go back and uninstall or something. Haven't loaded anything like FCP yet.

You're fine, the OS was installed by Apple.

Jeff or anyone who can answer my ?,

I'm still running 10.1.5 and about to upgrade to 10.3 out of the box. As far as Macs are concerned, it's like a second laguage that I am still learning. I am much more proficient in Windows environs. So, my question is this; I have FCP 3 with Mac's Microsoft Office and After Effects 5.5 on the computer right now. When I upgrade the OS to Panther, will the software I have on there carry over, or will I have to reinstall? Thanks for the advice. This may be a stupid question, but I want to install it the right way the first time.


Paul Fletcher

No, all your user preferences, network settings, and applications can be automatically moved for you. You can do an archive and install selecting to use your network settings. When you run the installer, as you go through the various install windows, watch for the window with the options button in the lower left corner. Click Options and select the appropriate install method.

Jeff, what is the appropriate install method, ie which method do I choose. This is like spoon feeding isn't it? I certainly appreciate your input.


Paul

We need one of these posts for OS X 10.4 (Tiger).

heath