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Bryan Ramirez
March 15th, 2006, 03:59 PM
Hello people, I just wraped my first hip hop video shot on my Xl1s. Tell me what you think. I have a link posted on the main page. you need Flash 8. It was all shot will a 1/1000 shutter angle and treated with magic bullet.

www.irezfilms.8m.com

Lee Faulkner
March 21st, 2006, 04:08 PM
Hi

Does anyone know for sure if an XL1s outputs NTSC (US) analog video with the required 7.5 IRE set up.

I'm going to use one and my monitor can't apply the set up if it's not there.

I know that nearly ALL DV based decks fail to do this .... although some can do it on playback (not FW - analog through monitoring). So I assume the XL-1 monitors a bit crushed in the blacks?

Thanks for the tip

Lee

Jeff Donald
March 21st, 2006, 06:29 PM
Please read this article (http://www.adamwilt.com/DV-FAQ-tech.html#Setup) from Adam Wilt's web site. It explains everything you need to know about setup.

Lee Faulkner
March 22nd, 2006, 09:33 AM
I am aware of of the information in this article.

However it does not answer my question : does the video/monitor out of an XL1s have 7.5 IRE set up applied so that a field monitor looks correct.

I think the answer is 'no' .. but when using an analog feed one needs to know for sure.

For instance, in my edit suite using a "Pro" Sony DVCam DSR45 if you run FW in and use the analog outs to monitor there is *no* set up (ever). If you record the FW input to tape and replay the tape then set up is added or not according to a menu setting.

So if you are not carful, and run with no set up, you can end up with a final result that you've only ever seen with no set up applied. When this is put to a DVD for instance, the DVD player will add set up and things look radically different.

(my production monitors can apply the required set up in all instances so the edit suites are taken care of).

However in the instance of an analog feed from an XL1s to a monitor, I need to know if there is set up applied or not? Maybe a menu setting?

I will be shooting on it next week... so I'd like an informed answer. The manual (I got from Canon online) makes no mention that I can find.

Thanks

Lee

Jack Miles
March 23rd, 2006, 06:37 PM
Hey guys,

Next month I will be shooting an Autocross video (Auto-X). For those of you who don't know what an Auto-X is, it is an event where cars will run around a technical course on a large open flat place. The course will be setup with cones and the idea is to post the fastest time around the course. The video I will be shooting will be on an airport runway in the middle of the day. It will be very bright out.

I am open to basically all general suggestions, no matter how simple, or how advanced. I am shooting with a Canon XL1s. I don't have too many accessories (Graduated Grey, UV for filters). I know a lot about the XL1s in certain respects, but little in other areas. So any and all comments/suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Dan Euritt
March 26th, 2006, 12:18 AM
nd filter on, sun behind you, manual focus on, but use the push-to-focus button with the camera zoomed all the way in at the longest distance between you and the car.

that way everything in a shorter distance will generally be in focus... and of course you won't have the camera set to "auto", it'll be in the full manual mode... although i use the audio auto gain for all the car stuff i do.

if announcer audio is important, check to see if they are broadcasting to the pits on either am or fm radio... you can plug a walkman radio into your video camera, set it up for 4-channel audio, and get decent tower audio.

you might also try to get as high up as you can, maybe on top of a motor home.

Leo Zheng
March 31st, 2006, 05:23 PM
Got a wedding coming up tomorrow and I can't find the charger! Anybody in the Greater Washington DC area can recommend me where to buy, or rent or borrow?

email: veggiebus@gmail.com
cell: 626.627.4599

Thank you very much!!!

Don Palomaki
March 31st, 2006, 06:58 PM
Ther are two video supply houses in yhour neck of the woods, within a mile of the beltway. Are they open on Saturday AM? If memory serves me correctly, Washington pro Services was one, CTL was the other. Also Best Buy, Circuit City, or one of the othe box houses might have a third party charger that will take the Canon batteries.

Aleksandra Borawska
April 6th, 2006, 07:31 AM
this is the newbiest question youve ever read. Im completely fresh and dont have a clue what to do to throw my footage from my just bought XL1s to my laptop.
do i need a capture card? what capture card do i need? can i get something cheap but reasonable?
i dont have a firewire input in my laptop. can i buy a firewire card and shove it into LAN pocket? will it work if i just connect my camera to that card and run the Premiere to download the footage?
my laptop is a sort of cheap end, do i need to buy external memory?
these are the specs of my laptop:
Acer TravelMate 2313WLMi
Intel Celeron M processor 370 (1.5GHz, 00 MHz FSB, 1MB L2ache) 448 MB RAM
The guy i bought the camcorder of on ebay wouldnt answer my e-mail to help me out and i ALREADY (can you imagine) got a small job to film and my deadline is approaching! please, help
Alex

Steven Davis
April 6th, 2006, 07:33 AM
Try this http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/resource.php

Don Palomaki
April 7th, 2006, 04:47 AM
Your laptop may be marginal at best (if it works at all) for for serious video editing, especially the hard drive. The hard drive may not be large enough or fast enough for meaningful work.

You may be able to find PCMCIA firewire adapter that will work with the XL1 (not all firewire adapters wil), or you may be able to find an entry level editing and capture combination that worrks with the USB2 port, e.g., Pinnacle's Studio product line.

Look for users groups of the NLE you plan to use, and fro yo rlaptop if you can dfind one, ask in their forums whether or not anyone has had luck doing NLE with your brand laptop. You might find pointers to software that will meet your needs.

Good luck in your quest.

David Phillips
April 9th, 2006, 12:14 AM
Hi
Does anyone know if the canon EOS adapter VL will work with XL1/XL1s?
Regards, Dave

Jay Villa
April 9th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Can this microphone work with my camera? It was suggested to me by the reps at B&H. After playing with it for a while, I can never get clean audio out of it on my camera.

It sounds great if I connect it to a mixer and record into my computer. On my camera however, the audio is all distorted. What am I doing wrong?

Marco Leavitt
April 9th, 2006, 11:45 AM
Turn on the in-camera attenuator and it should work well.

Don Palomaki
April 9th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Wasn't the VL EOS adapter intended to allow use of EOS lenses on the Canon L1/L2 (Hi8) camcorders? If so, it will not NOT fit the XL series (different mount intended for a single 1/2" CCD).

Christopher Leclair
April 11th, 2006, 02:11 PM
I've got my XL1s hooked up to a buddies mini DV camecorder and need to make a copy of a few tapes. I figured it would be no problem but for some reason can't figure it out.

I've got it playing fine on the tv from his camcorder then I switched the audio and video cables into the back end of the XL1s (audio/video) ports where it says "audio 1 in/out" and the video port of course as well. I have all three white, red and yellow hooked in but am not getting signal in the viewfinder.

Is there some setting I need the XL1s on to have a line feed to be able to record from this cam to my cam on line or something. I have it set to "VCR" but have tried other settings with no success. Is it just impossible to make duplicates this way?

Help! I need to get this out tonight!

Christopher Leclair
April 11th, 2006, 03:54 PM
Nevermind I figured it out! You have to hit rec/pause button for it to display then hit play to start recording....kinda weird!

Dean Orewiler
April 18th, 2006, 12:59 PM
I have the XL1s and I have a M185 receiver from lectrosonic - it's got a plug that comes out of it to hook into the small microphone port near the front of the camera, but I want to plug it into the XLR port....where can I find the adapter to do this that will keep it in stereo?? I think the jack is the 1/8" jack, or whatever the Canon on-camera microphone jack size is...it fits in the same jack. Any suggestions??

Don Palomaki
April 19th, 2006, 04:50 AM
Do you mean the R185 receiver? (The M185 is a transmitter).

If so, and although I've not used one, per the manual you should be able to connect an RCA cable from its RCA connector to the Audio1 inputs on the XL1, use a "Y" adapter to feed the same signal to the left and right inputs. And be sure Audio1 is set for line level signals. If the receive is mounted on the camcorder you should be OK with the unbalancd output for the short distance. Cables available at Radio Shack, etc.

Neil Fontaine
April 24th, 2006, 01:10 AM
Pretty good. I am not much into rap, but the video looks nice.

Does the xl1s have native wide screen? If not how did you get it, thanks.

Aaron Alfrey
April 24th, 2006, 01:22 AM
Hello all,

My XL1s has been doing something funky lately. After I shoot with it for about 30 mins to an hour it starts blinking in bold red letters "REMOVE CASSETTE TAPE" (or something to that effect). It keeps me from recording and I have to turn the camera off and turn it back on to see if it will let me record again. Usually it won't let me keep the tape in there unless I change out the battery. For some reason every time I change out the battery it lets me go back to recording and stops telling me to eject tape.

I was wondering if there is possibly something seriously wrong with the camera or if this is more of a simple fix. Do I need to go get it checked out or is there someone out there that knows exactly what it's doing?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Aaron

Greg Boston
April 24th, 2006, 01:26 AM
Hello all,

My XL1s has been doing something funky lately. After I shoot with it for about 30 mins to an hour it starts blinking in bold red letters "REMOVE CASSETTE TAPE" (or something to that effect). It keeps me from recording and I have to turn the camera off and turn it back on to see if it will let me record again. Usually it won't let me keep the tape in there unless I change out the battery. For some reason every time I change out the battery it lets me go back to recording and stops telling me to eject tape.

I was wondering if there is possibly something seriously wrong with the camera or if this is more of a simple fix. Do I need to go get it checked out or is there someone out there that knows exactly what it's doing?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Aaron

It may be detecting that the take up reel isn't moving and it's saying to remove the tape so that the tape doesn't end up all over the insides of the camera. Since it has separate indicators for dirty heads and condensation, this is the only thing I can think of. Could be belt slippage or a weak motor (which may explain why it needs full battery voltage to operate).

My suggestion is to get on the phone with Canon service and follow whatever advice they may have for you.

Christopher Leclair
May 1st, 2006, 11:45 AM
Just shot for 4 - 15 hour days as my very first paid shoot. It was grilling to say the least. I kept everything on auto. The guy I was working for said he'd had another guy running a beta cam and would be constantly performing manual white balance. He was asking why I wasn't. Anyway, should I have bothered doing it? We shot from break of dawn to dusk, mostly outdoors. When action happens, it's fast. A lot of the time we set up in complete darkness. Sometimes we set up on roosted birds and could barely move so as not to spook them. Should I be doing auto or manual white balance in these situations? What about daytime or dusk shooting?

Mathieu Ghekiere
May 1st, 2006, 02:34 PM
Manual white balancing is alway considered the best.
Having said that, I think the XL1s has a great automatic white balance that I hardly feel the need to put it on automatic...

Christopher Leclair
May 1st, 2006, 03:42 PM
Played around with it this morning and my manual was just about the same as auto white balance. Will it make any difference with regards to having a back lite bird? One morning we were on a bird at daybreak. I doubt I'd be able to do much in the sitation but how would I fix the back lite problem in the moment?

Dukaos Noslif
May 10th, 2006, 10:43 AM
Hello - I've recently purchased a used XL1 and am having an audio issue with the "mix" mode. I am trying to mix sound from the onbaord mic and a lavalier using the beachtek plate that was included with the unit.

I can only capture the "audio 1" channel on the Vegas Video 5 system I'm using whether it is the lav or the onboard camera. I believe it's a capture issue becuase I get levels during recording and playback on the camera and can hear both mics through headphones.

If I've left out any important info just let me know. I have a shoot coming up that will require both mics to be active so, any help is greatly appreciated.

Dukaos

Jack Smith
May 10th, 2006, 10:11 PM
You can't capture 4 channel audio directly using Vegas 5 and for that matter most NLE's can't either.You can capture using other programs though.Also you can do 2 captures .... 1st with audio 1, 2nd with audio 2 ,then sync them.see this thread for more info http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=62680&highlight=channel+capture
or do a search as there are quite a few threads about this.

Dukaos Noslif
May 11th, 2006, 03:05 PM
Thanks, Jack, that clears up quite a bit of mystery for me - especially why I could hear the mix on the tape, but was unable to capture it. I'll check out the link and learn more. Until next time...

Cesar Perez
May 17th, 2006, 05:55 PM
The colors on my xl1s LCD screen, watching throught viewfinder, are more darker and blue. I was thinking that the problem is in LCD screen, but after take off magnifying glass, everything was ok. So, looking through magnifyng glas, without screw it on wiefinder, everything is still ok, but if I spin it little bit over LCD in my hand, colours start changing end become darken blue. Any idea?

Scott Blajszczak
May 20th, 2006, 06:10 PM
hey all...

I'm wondering if anyone out there's rigs have lcd monitors attached... wondering what you use using to mount it... power it... and wondering 'bout any problems / settings for optimal operation.

I'd like to get a small (<3") lcd screen mounted to my XL-1s

Terry Hensley
May 20th, 2006, 09:46 PM
http://www.crossfireforum.org/gallery/data/500/Canon.jpg

No more dickering, she's decided to part with our expensive and relatively new, 11 month old Canon XL1 S camera and all the accessories and go ahead and bite the bullet and upgrade to a fancier camera she has glued her eyeballs on... Whew, this lady gott'a have all of the newest state of the art gadgets and it's driving me into the poor house but I continue to nod my head and yes dear...

http://www.crossfireforum.org/gallery/data/500/CANNON.jpg

She's shot 3 possiably 4 -60 minute Sony color collection tapes thru it, it has maybe 3-4 hours of total time on it in the short 11 months we've owned it.

Here's what it consists of;

Canon XL1S body,
Canon 16X XL lens w/hood,
Canon 3X XL lens w/hood,
Canon EF lens adapter,
the lens bags and dust covers,
MA-200 XLR Adapter Shoulder Pad,
1-BP 930 & 2-BP 930R ION batterys,
CH-910 dual battery charger,
Canon standard microphone,
Nylon soft carry case,
124 pg. Canon user manual in three languages,
All the cords, warranty card she never turned in, and misc paperwork is included...It's kept in a large gun safe..

No boxes, she pitched them like a d_ _ _y blonde with giant mammoires, but I cant complain, it paid for itself in the short time we owned it. My loss is your gain.

I priced some simular packages here and on another forum for around the same $$ amount and she's screaming at me now, she wants her new camera gadget and for me to blow it out so I can spend triple that on a fancier one with a gazillion more buttons.
$ 2600.00 in dead presidents picked up, located at the NW Fort Worth, Tx. studio or I can probably get it shipped with insurance for $ 100.00 -125.00 more.

http://www.crossfireforum.org/gallery/data/500/CANNON_005.jpg

terryh@familysurf.net

817-939-7077 voice mail CST

Christopher Leclair
May 21st, 2006, 07:34 AM
I'm interested to know too...

Chris Hurd
May 21st, 2006, 12:16 PM
See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=112 -- tons of discussions on this topic!

Jimmy Collins
May 23rd, 2006, 12:35 AM
I am looking to see if a .3x wide angle lens exists for a 72mm thread (XL1). I can't find anything on the internet.

If not, Could I use a step down ring for a 58mm raynox lens?

Chris Barcellos
May 23rd, 2006, 12:47 AM
I am looking to see if a .3x wide angle lens exists for a 72mm thread (XL1). I can't find anything on the internet.

If not, Could I use a step down ring for a 58mm raynox lens?

Using Step down makes no sense to me.. vignetting at wide angle on the primary lens.

Alan Salway
May 23rd, 2006, 06:45 AM
I am needing a remote for my Cannon XL1.

Does anyone know where I can get one?

Also I was told that I need the Remote to turn off all of the menus when you are using an extra screen. Is this true, or am I just missing something?

Chris Hurd
May 23rd, 2006, 09:23 AM
Hi Alan, if you don't want to buy it as a replacement part from Canon, then your next best bet is Ebay. Be sure to search for "Canon" and not "Cannon" though. And yes you need this remote in order to turn the displays on and off for remote monitors. Another way to do this without the WL-D2000 is to get the Canon ZR-1000 wired remote lens controller. It has the same displays button that the wireless remote has. It's about $160 to $180 or so.

Greg Boston
May 23rd, 2006, 11:03 AM
I am needing a remote for my Cannon XL1.

Does anyone know where I can get one?

Also I was told that I need the Remote to turn off all of the menus when you are using an extra screen. Is this true, or am I just missing something?

Alan,

This is your lucky day! I have the remote from my XL-1 body. The buyer didn't want any of the accessories. I will send you a private mail.

regards,

-gb-

Jim Cullers
May 25th, 2006, 08:56 PM
i'm new to your group but am happy to find it. I love my Xl1 .

Lately I have been using FCP and capturing 64 minute clips. I notice that the audio starts to drift at the 30 minute mark and gets off about 12 frames at the end of these files. I can capture smaller segments as a work around but I'm curious if anyone here has heard of this problem?

Michael Sweeney
May 25th, 2006, 09:23 PM
i was looking at the watchdog articles on the xl1s and this lens i found on ebay wasn't covered. it is a 20X auto lens, it has a focus and zoom preset option, could someone explain the present option and how it works? the auction says it makes focus pulling easy.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7622461024&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

thanks,
mike

Greg Boston
May 25th, 2006, 09:43 PM
This is the stock lens that comes with the XL2. Yes, the focus and zoom presets will work on the XL1s, but you won't see the preset positions in the VF like you would on the XL2.

For additional information, look at the XL2 watchdog and Canon's own website.

http://canondv.com

regards,

-gb-

Don Palomaki
May 27th, 2006, 07:21 AM
This was a topic of discussion several years ago. The cause is slight differences in clock rates for audio. Some NLE's have a setting that effectively addresses this, not sure about FCP.

A 2001 thread suggests visiting a FCP-related FAQ site that may no longer exist for discussion of the issue. Not being a FCP user, I have no solution.

Andrew Khalil
May 27th, 2006, 11:18 AM
before I upgraded to the XL2, I used an XL1 with FCP, but I could never figure out what the issue was. What I ended up doing was capturing each hour in 15 minute segments to avoid the problem.

Frank Bogart
May 27th, 2006, 04:42 PM
I bought a Digital Optics wide angle converter for my XL1 lens. It cost me like $100 but the problem is that it distorts the horizontal lines like a fish-eye lens would. I wanted to get a wider range without getting the rectilinear distortion if you know what i mean?

is this the product i have to get in order to avoid the fisheye-like distortion?

http://cgi.ebay.com/CANON-3X-WIDE-ANGLE-LENS-XL1-XL-1-XL1s-XL2-NICE_W0QQitemZ7622516870QQcategoryZ64325QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Terry Hensley
May 28th, 2006, 01:25 AM
I've offered it on Ebay for $ 2100.00 + shipping.

Allan Michaud
May 29th, 2006, 09:01 AM
I am trying to make clones of minidv tapes from a small panasonic camera via 4pin dv connector to a Sony DRS40P dvcam deck. I am using brand new sony minidv tapes in the sony deck yet it has just recorded in DVCAM mode as it stopped after 40 mins. Anyone out there know what I am doing wrong?
The deck shows "mini" tape when i insert the new tape but also displays "DVCAM" there is no manual for the deck and I do not have time to wait for 1 to arrive. Anyone know what the DUP button does? everything else seems self explanatory
cheers
Allan

David Tamés
May 29th, 2006, 10:07 AM
[...] it has just recorded in DVCAM mode as it stopped after 40 mins. Anyone out there know what I am doing wrong? [...]
The DSR-40, like my own DSR-20, will play back DV or DVCAM tapes (the DV and DVCAM formats differ in terms of track width and speed and thus the shorter record time in DVCAM), however, they only record in the DVCAM format. If you want to dub DV tapes onto DV, then you'll have to use the DSR-40 as the playback deck and your camera as the record deck. Some Sony decks like the DSR-11 are switchable and can record both DV and DVCAM.

Allan Michaud
June 2nd, 2006, 04:18 AM
Thank you so much David, I feel much better, I had used other Sony decks and assumed they all could do this. I have copied them already as you suggested without problem.
cheers
allan

Les Wilson
June 3rd, 2006, 06:57 AM
I am posting here and not in the "Support your Camera" forum since this appears to be an XL1s issue. I'll let the moderators decide.

A colleague mentioned he'd gotten a PG-L controller for his XL1s and found it would not allow his camera to go into standby. Stealth and Canon controllers work fine however. I researched the problem here and found some others also experienced that. Varizoom said that it should work. He ordered a second one and it had the same problem. He sent one to Varizoom and after a month they sent it back saying it worked with their XL1s.

Can anyone think of what could be causing this incompatibility with SOME XL1s cameras and not others?

TIA

Terry Hensley
June 4th, 2006, 07:34 AM
Tennatively sold pending funds.