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Jaime Valles November 3rd, 2003, 04:39 PM Yeah, the Mitsubishi Diamond Pro monitor has a trinitron screen, I believe. I know it has the 2 faint lines across it.
http://www.necmitsubishi.com/products/home/mitsubishi_index.cfm
I figured I'd be better off with the 22" CRT for image quality. I've just never seen LCD with digital connectors for that cheap, and they're Sony! I guess before I buy anything I should actually see the display in action. I'm still leaning more towards the CRT, but if anyone can present a valid case for the 2 LCDs, I'm all ears (or eyes, I guess).
Thanks, Boyd!
Boyd Ostroff November 3rd, 2003, 05:25 PM First you may need to unlink the audio from the video using the Link command from the Modify menu. Furthermore, you may also need to unlink the two stereo channels using the stereo pair command in the Modify menu.
Once you've done this, double-click on each of the audio tracks; it opens in the viewer. There are two controls at the top of the window, "level" and "pan". They can be adjusted either numerically or with the sliders. If you only want to use one track at a low level, or not at all, adjust the slider accordingly. Then use the pan slider to position the other channel where you like in the stereo image.
I guess I should clarify: these techniques work in FCP3... you don't actually mention what software you're using...
Rich Sheikh November 3rd, 2003, 05:32 PM I'm looking to buy an external dvd burner for a G3 imac. Anyone know which is best to buy for a mac running OS9.1 ? Also, will software come with the unit?
Jeff Donald November 3rd, 2003, 06:07 PM Some external burners come with software and some don't. iDVD will not work and would be pretty slow on a G3. It should work fine for burning data to DVD's for archiving.
Stephan Verdier November 3rd, 2003, 10:16 PM I just upgraded my system to FCP4 and I'm using an AG-DVX100. When I was printing to tape under FCP3 the camera was able to receive the regen TC from the timeline. Under FCP4 I can't get the regen TC as preset on the timeline. I only get 00:00:00:00 during the whole recording.
How can we resolve this problem ?
Also, is FCP4 and the AG-DVX100 capable of a remote Print to Tape. Now, I must start my recording manually.
Heath McKnight November 4th, 2003, 12:33 AM I installed Panther, now I'm getting TONS of unexeptected quits in FCP 3.0.4 (I have a G5 1.6 ghz machine).
HELP!
heath
Jeff Donald November 4th, 2003, 05:49 AM Most of the problems with Panther are caused by 3rd party software. Some of the bad apps are Default Folder X, Copy and Paste, and any of the Unsanity Haxies. Anything that adds a preference pane to the System Preferences should also be suspect.
Have you repaired permissions and run fsck -y? How did you install Panther? Upgrade or clean install?
Jeff Donald November 4th, 2003, 06:02 AM Have you tried a previous project and it doesn't work? Have you repaired permissions since upgrading? Worse case you may need to reinstall FCP 4. There are also some 3rd party software causing troubles, but I haven't heard of this issue before. Could be a camera issue also. Can you try your camera on another FCP 4 system and see if TC works?
David Slingerland November 4th, 2003, 08:01 AM hello everybody,
I just installed fcp4 and it works allright. But I do have some questions about its capabilities. I am running the program under 10.2.8 on a single processer 1.25 mac with 1 gig memory power. Its starting up witch takes a lot of time compared to fcp3, it needs to read very long. Exacly the same with closing and saving witch used to be a no time affair in 3, it takes also a really long time..(we are talking at least a minute here...)
To be fair I have tried it only under a project that was recently running in fcp 3 and now imported in to 4 (it asked to update "its file format" so the first time i could understand the time but now....)its realtime capabilities are no problem and in any other way it does not seem slow...
is this normal?
greetings
Jeff Donald November 4th, 2003, 08:17 AM I think it may have to do with the modified (FCP 3 to FCP 4) project. Try a project originated in FCP 4 and it should be as fast as FCP 3. You may want to repair permissions if haven't done so since installing FCP.
Heath McKnight November 4th, 2003, 11:32 AM Upgrade. How do I do those things?
heath
thanx!
Jeff Donald November 4th, 2003, 11:47 AM You should almost always do a clean install of OS rather than an upgrade. Try repairing permissions. Open Disk Utility (should be in Utility folder inside application folder). Select your boot drive and select repair permissions (not verify). Reboot and see if problem persists. If so write back, you'll need to do a clean install. It's not as bad as it sounds.
Do you have any of the questionable software installed?
Rich Sheikh November 4th, 2003, 11:54 AM Need advice please. I'm working with IMovie 2.1
When exporting a movie to quicktime, what would be the perfect settings to prepare the quicktime movie for the web? I've been setting it on streaming web movie. I'd like to be able to show a larger quicktime movie but without losing so much sharpness. I'd prefer my quicktime movie to be able to be viewed by people with a 56k modem without waiting forever for it to download. Streaming movies are the best but I want to show larger then those small quicktime movies. Any ideas?
Ken Tanaka November 4th, 2003, 12:04 PM Rich,
There is really no completely good answer to your question. Video streaming demands a great deal of data transfer no matter what you do. Dial-up 56k users will always be disadvantaged.
The basic variables you control with any codec are: frame rate, frame size and degree of compression.
Tools such as Cleaner 6 enable you to create fall-back versions of video for slower connections. This, of course, would relocate the compression process to a separate tool (than iMovie) but it's a very worthwhile change if you're serious about creating good, or even watchable, compressions for the Web platform.
For a better understanding of this subject do a little reading. Ben Waggoner's "Compression for Great Digital Video" (ISBN 157820111-X) is a good place to start.
Jeff Chandler November 4th, 2003, 12:51 PM This is probably off-topic, and I'm sure it's a dumb question to long-time mac users, but how do you uninstall software on a Mac? I installed a program on my Powerbook that I want to take off, but couldn't seem to find the answer in thje help section.
Thanks!
Ignacio Rodriguez November 4th, 2003, 12:55 PM Hi. I am being drafted for a project consisting mainly in the restoration of slide shows. Of course I think it would be wise to do the work in HD so it is not obsolete in two years. Am I correct to assume I can use 1920x1080 scans of the slides and render that as DV for editing and then as 1920x1080 using pixlet or some other codec for HD mastering? Am I missing something here? The idea is not to have to buy expensive HD (or shortlived HDV) equipment, and use a G5 with FCP4. I have read about people doing this kind of thing in Vegas, but I want to keep things Mac. Any ideas would be welcome. My coming up with a good setup will give me work for about 12 months ;-) Thanks.
Jeff Donald November 4th, 2003, 12:58 PM In most cases (OS X) just drag the application to the trash and empty the trash. If it install preference panes or icons in the menu bar you may need to dig a little deeper. What program?
Jeff Chandler November 4th, 2003, 01:05 PM Thanks Jeff. I knew you would come through.That seems almost too simple. I'm wanting to take off Avid FreeDV. I just put it on to demo it to the kids in my class, and I don't want it on my powerbook anymore anymore.
Jeff Donald November 4th, 2003, 02:26 PM You can also load the installer and under custom install there may be an uninstall option. But dragging it to the trash will get the largest part of the application.
Boyd Ostroff November 4th, 2003, 03:10 PM Actually this topic interests me as well. I would like to do 3d animation at HD resolution, so no camera is involved. Would HDV/pixlet work for this? When I get a bit of time I plan to muster up the courage to install my copy of Panther and try this for myself :-)
Glenn Chan November 4th, 2003, 03:16 PM Make 2 versions. Use sorenson3 codec for video and mpeg4 for audio. You can get the optimal results through trial and error. Export small chunks to reduce encoding times while you fiddle. The small files aren't that good predictors of the final file size but for web this doesn't matter- you just have to be in the right ballpark.
Glenn Chan November 4th, 2003, 03:17 PM This is a known issue with FCP3 projects opened in FCP4. Check out the Apple Knowledge Base on this. I believe the solution is re-capturing in FCP4.
Heath McKnight November 4th, 2003, 03:38 PM I'll do a search tonight when I get home; I hate doing a clean, full install. I have to re-do so much stuff (email, etc.).
heath
David Slingerland November 7th, 2003, 02:50 PM Thanks, but if speed is the only thing Iwill leave it this way because reimporting would mean that I would have to do it all over....but I am glad it is not something else.
Jeremy Martin November 9th, 2003, 10:48 AM im trying to hook up a monitor to my G5 using premeire and my xl1s. im just going firewire to the xl and then composite to a cheap little monitor for now. but, im not getting any signal to the monitor.
as soon as i open premeire6 my monitor goes black as if its waiting for footage but nevers shows up.
i got it to wrk a little yesterday but as soon as i switched a clip the picture went away again.
so, what do i need to have the camera, G5 or premeire set at to work correctly.
thank you for any input you can give.
J.
Rick Banfield November 9th, 2003, 12:46 PM Can't see my original thread posted so doing again.
Can you use voice over on g4, fcp 3, using xl1s camera as ext mic.
Works fine in os9
Regards
Rick Banfield
Jeff Donald November 11th, 2003, 05:14 AM The update contains the following fixes:
The 10.3.1 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services and technologies: FileVault, Printing, WebDav, and FireWire 800 drives. This update also includes the latest Security Updates.
Important Note: Apple has identified an issue with external FireWire hard drives using the Oxford 922 bridge chip-set with firmware version 1.02 that can result in the loss of data stored on the disk drive. Even with the improvements available in this update, Apple recommends you update the firmware on your FireWire drive. Please contact your drive manufacturer for more information.
I suggest running fsck -y at startup, then repairing permissions, restart and download the package. Install the downloaded package, forces restart, at restart run fsck -y and then repair permissions again. I do not recommend installing from the Software Update System Preferences Pane. Highlight and check mark the update and choose Update from the menu bar>click on download only.
Ted Springer November 11th, 2003, 02:08 PM Just curious, but why do so many recommend against using Software Update to do the updates, and say it is better to download the installers?
Jeff Donald November 11th, 2003, 02:17 PM Loss of internet connection can leave your system files only partially updated. Usually not a problem, but in rare cases can be a real problem restarting the update. The computer may not start up into a normal boot screen and require technical assistance to complete the install.
Rob Lohman November 11th, 2003, 03:07 PM I think there are cards (genlocks?) that can do this. But they
tend to be quite expensive. Also you wouldn't want a crappy
card when doing TV work me thinks.
Rob Lohman November 11th, 2003, 05:14 PM Anyone?
Rob Lohman November 11th, 2003, 05:15 PM Did you try a google search (or google newsgroup search) with
the exact "error" message you are getting?
Wessel Wallert November 11th, 2003, 06:07 PM I think this can be really helpfull for people who have a miro motion dc30 or dc30+ , and do want to continue to work with it in the future.
[ Squared 5, what can i say........ thanks a lot!, you definitely cheered me up! ]
wessel
amsterdam.
"You described one of the 100 known bugs of the official Pinnacle
drivers for Mac OS 9...
I bought Final Cut Pro 3 at the beginning of 2002. I was not able to use it
with my DC30+ until the beginning of 2003, when I started writing my driver.
Apart from the amount of work required to build a new driver, I had to
switch to Mac OS X. And I think you have to do the same because
Pinnacle's drivers do not work with Final Cut Pro 3 and I really don't have
a solution for Mac OS 9. If you want to stay with 9.2.2, you can capture your movies with Premiere 5.1 and then import them in FCP 3. This should be fine.
But if you want to stay with Apple in the future, you'd better
switch to Mac OS X now.
Regards, Squared 5
http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/dc30xact.html
Stas Tagios November 12th, 2003, 05:41 AM I need to buy a new FW drive to work in conjunction with my G4 (dual 1ghz quicksilver) and the FW400 drive I already have.
If I buy a FW 800 drive (one with both FW 800 and FW400 ports), and plug it in to either the FW400 port on my G4 or the FW400 port on my existing drive, will it work? I understand that if it does, it'll transfer only at FW400, but I'm not sure if the FW800 drives are backward compatible with the FW400. Can I daisy chain the FW800 drive to the FW 400?
Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
Thanks for any info!
Jeff Donald November 12th, 2003, 06:05 AM You will have no compatibility issues in the situations you describe. FW800 drives are designed to be compatible with FW400 components.
Michael Botkin November 13th, 2003, 11:20 AM I know if you are using firewire to the XL1 then composite out to the monitor, you should have your AV/DV passthrough on in the cam, and make sure in FCP4 the output is set to firewire as well in the pref's. Anything else guys?
Michael
Jeff Donald November 13th, 2003, 11:30 AM If I remember, it does work. But the stock mic would not be my first choice for the best audio quality.
Nicholi Brossia November 13th, 2003, 12:12 PM Hi Justin,
I know this is way late, but maybe you (or someone else) can use this idea.
FCE doesn't have a function that deletes unused footage so you have to get a little creative.
1) Capture the entire tape or session (watch the audio sync, sometimes it gets off 3 frames or so) as a clip with designated ins and outs. Capture Now tends to be unreliable for me, but you may prefer it.
2) Divide the main clip into subclips after marking in an out points (Modify > Make Subclip). Each of these subclips are dependant on the original clip.
3) After renaming and organizing the subclips accordingly, Control-click each one, and select Export > Movie. Choose the appropriate folder and remember to check Make Movie Self Contained. This then becomes its own, stand-alone FCE clip that can even be recaptured later with capture project.
4) Delete the original clip and subclips from the FCE browser.
5) Delete the appropriate, original capture scratch. You will still have the self-contained subclips that were created earlier.
6) Import the newly created clips into your FCE project and you're all set. Only the used footage will remain on your drive.
On an added note... You can also use DV Start/Stop Detection (under the Mark menu) to automatically find all the points where you paused camcorder recording, and mark those. Then, in the browser, click the triangle to the left of your original clip and you will see a list of the markers (red markers labeled segment 1, 2, 3, ...). Click and drag to highlight these markers and choose Modify > Make Subclips from the menu (Command-U). Then continue to step 3. This makes for a pseudo batch capture process.
Jeremy Martin November 13th, 2003, 12:29 PM actually i got it to work the other night. dont know what i did differently than the night before though.
though on ething i have noticed is that in premiere6 the only footage that shows up on screen is premiere captured footage. mov's do not show up. but everything works fine in after effects.
i unfortunately dont have FCP4, yet.
so if anyone knows why movs dont work in premeire id appreciate the input.
thanks for your help michael.
Wendy Rubin November 14th, 2003, 03:03 PM Does anyone know where to download the manual for studio pro 2? I am having a wierd rollover problem with the buttons (probably because I don't know what the heck I am doing) and need to do some reading.
Ryan Wachter November 14th, 2003, 04:12 PM Ok, well I bought the G4 after talking it over with you guys and thanks again for the help. Next is the DV camcorder...probably the panny but until then I have a JVC camcorder that uses vhs-c tapes. I want to be able to transfer it to my g4 quicksilver for editing. Whats the best way to do this to get the best picture quality. Now I heard Id need a special video card possibly. But right now Im using a video card that allows me to use two monitors and Id like to keep it that way. Will getting this new card affect that? Is there a better way to transfer in the first place?
LMK
Thanks
Nicholi Brossia November 14th, 2003, 04:35 PM Congrats on your new NLE.
As far as the special video card goes, they were most likely talking about a capture card. These are total opposites being that video cards export and capture cards import. Also, capture cards are generally qualified on the professional level and get very expensive.
It looks like all you need is a analog-to-digital convertor. Basically you plug your s-video or rca and audio into this little box, then output via firewire to your computer. You'll also, most likely, want to get one that allows you to output from the computer, through the box, and back into your camera for recording. Also, you won't be able to control the vhs-c camera with the computer (one big benefit of firewire), so you'll have to capture the footage while controlling the camera as a vcr.
There are many different convertors to choose from. I'd recommend doing a quick search and read reviews on here to get a better idea of what's available. Then its as simple as deciding which one meets your needs and budget. One particular convertor claims to be built specifically for the mac - StudioDV by Formac http://www.formac.com/p_bin/?cid=solutions_converters_studiodv. Figured it'd be worth a look.
Andrew Hogan November 14th, 2003, 04:39 PM I have an NTSC VHS tape and a PAL VHS tape and I want to put them on a DVD, preferably the same DVD.
I have FCP 4 and DVDSP2 on my G4, a PAL XL1s and a PAL VHS player. Is this possible or do I need a video production company to convert the NTSC tape to PAL first or can the combo I have do it?
I can borrow an NTSC and/or PAL recording VHS player. My VHS player has NTSC playback on a PAL/NTSC TV. (which apparently only partially converts the signal to PAL) getting confusing now?
Anyone tried this?
Kevin Beswick November 14th, 2003, 05:58 PM I am new to all of this, please forgive me. I bought FCE several months ago and am just starting to learn it. I have some iMovie experience. I am a comercial still photographer specializing in architectural/ interior/ construction. I have been introducing clients to dig vid with some success, offering a kind of multi media package of dig stills/ film stills/ Powerpoint shows, slide shows, and now video. After considerable research I ended up buying the Panasonic DVX100 camera. Thats probably overkill, but its been a good year, and I thought it would be a great camera to grow with. The problem: Is there any way to edit 24p footage in FCE, or do I need to upgrade to FCP? I know that I can edit 60i from the camera in FCE, but not using 24p, or at least having it as a tool, is obviously a big waste of the camera. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Jeff Donald November 14th, 2003, 06:39 PM FCE really does not do 24p without a lot of trouble. It would require additional software and total expenditure would only be a little less than FCP 4. FCP 4 would offer a better work flow and require much less time than any FCE work around.
Jeff Donald November 14th, 2003, 06:56 PM There is not a manual available for download. It came with your software.
Andrew Hogan November 14th, 2003, 07:07 PM Do the DVDSP2 tutorials, its not that hard after that.
Juan P. Pertierra November 14th, 2003, 08:12 PM I just got a mac Powerbook, and FCP. So far i've been using after effects. I am trying to adapt 25p PAL material to 24fps NTSC for DVD production.
Usually, in after effects i would just interpret the footage as 24fps(slowing it down 4%), and then just drop it in my composition and perform a scale transformation, allowing it to modify pixel ratio as well. This worked perfectly.
How do i do this equivalently in FCP4? It 'seems' to do it automatically..that is, it seems to fit the PAL image into the NTSC sequence, but i am not sure how it is adapting the 25fps footage to the 24fps timeline. I just want it to slow it down, NOT calculate new frames, etc.
Thanks,
Juan
Jeff Donald November 14th, 2003, 09:33 PM I updated to 10.3.1 several days ago and all FireWire operations seem to be much faster. Full CF cards download via FireWire 20% faster. Many operations involving FireWire drives seem faster also. I don't have any systems still on 10.3 so I can't accurately test my impressions.
Don Berube November 14th, 2003, 09:38 PM Well, you could also use the Cinema Tools Conform Feature to change your 25P clip's timebase to 24fps, thus "correcting" the speed. That conformed footage can then be edited with Final Cut Pro as long as your sequences using it have a 24 fps timebase.
I guess you copuld say that there are probably 2-3 different ways that you could handle this. You already mentioned one technique that works for you. I would try using Cinema Tools and not having to change the speed of your sound and images.
- don
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