View Full Version : recommended lenses for everyday shooting?


John Garcia
September 18th, 2003, 02:12 PM
ive decided to pick up the new cannon digital rebel and should be getting it in the next few days.

being that im fairly new to the world of camera lenses, i just wanted some input on which lenses i should carry at all times. i basically want maybe 3 lenses for different applications. i do alot of portrait work and pictures of cars and some action photography. i also like to take pictures of scenery and sunsets and what not. i also want to get at least 1 macro lens. which lenses should i get? budget is tight, so i need to make wise choices. thanks in advance!

Frank Granovski
September 18th, 2003, 02:49 PM
For me, if I had to choose: a 28mm, a 100mm and a macro---since you said you wanted a macro. Note: I'm not familar with new Canon lenses, plus I'm not into zoom lenses---but 1 zoom lens may be all want you need + a macro.

Kirk Messner
September 18th, 2003, 05:22 PM
I really like my 28-135 IS. Of course it's the only lens I own other than the 300mm and 1.4x :)

Frank Granovski
September 18th, 2003, 06:30 PM
John, another thing you might want to do is check out some of the lens test/ratings websites. Many times the expensive lens will not be as good as the cheap lens. I've found this to be the case with Nikon lenses, and others.

Jeff Donald
September 18th, 2003, 06:56 PM
Following up on Frank's suggestion, you may want to check out Photodo (http://www.photodo.com/index.html) for comparisons.

John Garcia
September 19th, 2003, 01:19 PM
thanks for all the tips! any more suggestions!? post what you have! thanks in advance...

Matt Betea
September 19th, 2003, 03:45 PM
Depending on how tight your budget is, you could look at getting a set of diopters for whatever lens you go with. That will give you pretty good macro capabilities for a fraction of the cost. Some people don't like them, but unless you're doing at least 50% of your stuff in macro they should be fine.

Jeff Donald
September 19th, 2003, 04:00 PM
If you like low light or available light photography, the 50mm F1.4 or F1.8 are great lenses. Both are very sharp and make great portrait lenses (80mm effective focal length). The F1.8 can be had cheap too.

John Garcia
September 25th, 2003, 04:32 PM
hmm...thanks for all your suggestions!

i got my camera setup, finally, and now, i have to do some studying!

my camera came with an EF-S 18mm-55mm lens. Ive taken over 600 shots with the camera over the past 2 days, and i realize that i need a lens with more zoom capibility...i went to the zoo and had a hard time zooming up on the animals...the lens is good for closer photography...maybe 4 or 5 feet away from the subject.

hmm...how much does the 28-135 IS lens go for? I know IS stands for image stabilization. Ive seen the difference between the IS lenses and lenses without IS, and it is a big difference. I also notice that alot of my shots are a little blury. hmm...well, here are some pics that ive taken thus far...

Any tips on which lenses to get would be awesome. Thanks in advance...

Image 1 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_1.jpg)
Image 2 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_2.jpg)
Image 3 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_3.jpg)
Image 4 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_4.jpg)
Image 5 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_5.jpg)
Image 6 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_6.jpg)
Image 7 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_7.jpg)
Image 8 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_8.jpg)
Image 9 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_11.jpg)
Image 10 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_12.jpg)
Image 11 (http://www.racesauce.com/staff/John/300d_14.jpg)

Post your thoughts...

Rob Belics
September 25th, 2003, 06:29 PM
I'm not into zoom lenses at all. The typical basic kit is a 28, 50 and 85. For action it depends on how far from the action. Professional sports from the stands will need a 300 or more to get close.

Rob Belics
September 25th, 2003, 06:37 PM
Just looked at yourshots and noticed on 4,5 and 7 a lot of problems, I think, with bokeh and multiple images. If it was film I would point to your lens.

John Garcia
September 25th, 2003, 07:26 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Belics : Just looked at yourshots and noticed on 4,5 and 7 a lot of problems, I think, with bokeh and multiple images. If it was film I would point to your lens. -->>>

could you explain the problems to me, please?

Adrian Douglas
September 25th, 2003, 09:22 PM
John,

If your looking for a macro lens then I would seriously consider the 100/2.8. It's a very nice lens and with the 50 you would probably be finding your self looking for extension tubes.

The 50/1.4 is also a great lens, just as Jeff suggested, it's fast, sharp and light. It produces beautiful images and makes it very easy to control the DOF.

There's nothing wrong with zooms providing you stay away from the bottom of the barrel. The 28-135 is a nice lens with a good range and IS to boot. However, if your budget can stretch a little further I'd look at either a second-hand 17-35/2.8 or the new 17-40/4 as your primary lens to give you wide angle view due to the 1.6 multiplication factor.

On the big and expensive side the 70-200/2.8 is a lens any serious amature/semi-pro shouldn't be without. You can pickup a second hand non-IS version for less than a grand if you shop around. This is the niceest lens I have ever owned. It gets a bit heavy after a long day of lugging it around but the images are worth it. It's fast focusing and extremely sharp for a zoom, just as sharp as many non-L primes, and if you get the IS version well, you get IS.

Your shots look pretty good. The 18-55 lens that came with your camera could be the reason some of them look a little soft. It's a low-cost lens designed for everyday use with that camera. THe shot of the dog looks good, which is the type of shot this lens is designed for. Maybe the flowers look a little soft because it's not a macro lens and maybe you were a littel too close.

Rob Belics
September 26th, 2003, 08:32 AM
Look at the out of focus areas in the background. It seems there are 2-4 reflected images coming from the same point though there's only one true background image. Also, one of the pictures seems to show a small white flower that's out of focus but has a black hole in the center. I can't tell if that's because the flower has a dark center or the lens is creating that (it shouldn't).

Jeff Donald
September 26th, 2003, 08:48 AM
The small white flower with a dark center may be a dust spot on the CMOS sensor. When the scene is exposed with a small diameter lens opening (lens stopped down to F32 for example) dust spots sometimes show as the anomaly Rob describes. Check the procedure for cleaning dust spots. I use a large blower to clean the sensor. Do not use liquids, q-tips, dust-off or any other canned or compressed air.

John's lens is very modestly priced in the Digital Rebel package. It only adds a $100 USD to the total cost. The images look very nice and show off some of the advantages and disadvantages of digital and modestly priced lenses. I would suggest the 28-135mm IS lens or follow Adrian's advice. You might also look for a used 20-35mm lens.

John Garcia
September 26th, 2003, 11:38 AM
ahh....ok, I understand what you're taking about now, Rob. Especially in the bee picture. It seems as though the flowers that are in the background, which are slightly out of focus have sort of a mirrioring effect to them. Well, I sure hope these problems are being caused by the lens. Hopefully when I get a better quality lens, it will solve the bluring and give me nice, crisp, clean pictures with perfectly blured backgrounds.

Jeff, ill look into how to clean the cmos. I know there is an option in the menu to clean the cmos. I just need to read about how it works and what to do.

By the way, which picture has the white flower with the black center? I cant seem to find which one you folks are talking about! lol...

Being that this is my first SLR camera, I still have alot to learn. The owner of the store I bought the camera from, which is also a friend of mines, gave me a book called "EF Lens Work III - The Eyes of EOS", which I am reading to get a more technical view of the lenses and what they do. All in all, I am slowly learning and becoming used to the SLR format. Now, I just need to save up some money to invest in some good lenses and a flash!

Anyone out there got a used Speed Light 550EX for sale?

Thanks for all of your comments and information regarding which lenses would suit me best. Keep the information comming! I apprecaite it!

John Garcia
September 26th, 2003, 12:00 PM
One more thing, How are Sigma lenses? My mom has some connections to a sigma dealer and she may be able to get the lenses at cost. If the price is right and you folks recommend the lenses, I may get maybe 1 or 2 Sigma lenses for my collection.

hmm...just wondering! let me know! :D Thanks!

Adrian Douglas
September 26th, 2003, 11:01 PM
Sigma make pretty good lenses. If you were shooting professionally I would say stay with Canon but as you are starting out Sigma lenses are good alternatives. The high-end Sigma lenses fall between Canon's standard and their L lenses in price but come very close to the L lenses in performance in many cases. You will miss little things like being able to leave the lens in Auto focus and temporally disable it with a button on the camera body (not even sure you can do this with the Rebel) but optically their lenses are very good especially the 17-35/4 and the 28-75/2.8.

Chris Hurd
September 26th, 2003, 11:40 PM
My wife's old Rebel G is too low-end to warrant the expensive Canon glass, so I bought her a pair of Sigma's that we've been very pleased with, for about $280 I think. They are a 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 and a 70-300mm f/4-5.6, both with macro capability. If you can't justify Canon (or Nikon) glass, in my opinion Sigma is an affordable alternative for either brand.

Jeff Donald
September 28th, 2003, 10:42 AM
If you like Sigma glass you can also consider the Ritz Camera house brand, Quantaray. Sigma makes all the AF Ritz lenses.