Marshall Staton
March 26th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Just got a 2009 mac pro and a mxo2, now I need to get some audio monitors. What is the proper way to connect these? The headphone outputs or should I output from the mxo2?
View Full Version : How to connect audio monitors to Mac Pro Marshall Staton March 26th, 2009, 05:26 PM Just got a 2009 mac pro and a mxo2, now I need to get some audio monitors. What is the proper way to connect these? The headphone outputs or should I output from the mxo2? Christopher Glavan March 27th, 2009, 12:40 AM I'm not an owner, but since you have balanced xlr-out, look for powered nearfield monitors with xlr-in like m-audio's bx8a, tapco's s8, or krk's rokit line. Those are just examples. If anyone knows which reference monitors work well with the mxo2 or just for video editing in general, chime in. Adrian Frearson March 27th, 2009, 01:53 AM Marshall, I use Soundcraft Absolute 4p monitors which are quite old and now discontinued, but allow you to connect either to xlr or rca, which is useful if you are using/swapping between different set ups. Something to look out for if buying reference monitors. As the previous poster said, going xlr from the mxo2 is probably best, what does the manual say? Adrian Robert Lane March 27th, 2009, 08:21 PM Marshall, Unless you're doing any sort of critical 5.1 or 7.1 surround sweetening or your sole purpose is that of an audio engineer then I'd suggest using whichever setup costs you the least amount of money. I've had my BlueSky Pro Desk monitors connected both ways, via the mini-jack to XLR adapters into a Mackie mixer and, using the direct audio outs on the KONA card direct to XLR ins on the Pro Desk. There was no distinguishable difference in audio quality or floor noise at all - of which I was surprised. I'm always critical of the lack of innovation Apple doesn't put into their hardware offerings but one area they have always excelled in is the audio channel circuitry on the mainboard. Very few PC boards are as sonically clean - another surprise. If you really want to go all out and get the best possible audio, use the SPDIF optical in/out on the MacPro into any device that can use them. Then you'll really hear something different. Nigel Barker March 28th, 2009, 09:49 AM If you really want to go all out and get the best possible audio, use the SPDIF optical in/out on the MacPro into any device that can use them. Then you'll really hear something different.For the budget conscious the Edirol (Roland) MA-15D powered monitors connected to the Mac Pro via optical SPDIF sound better than any similar sized speakers that I have heard whether connected to a computer or HiFi. The clarity & bass response is just incredible for the price. Cheers Nigel Shaun Roemich March 29th, 2009, 07:58 AM I'll second Nigel's choice of MA-15D's for budget minded, reasonably accurate near fields. They are what I use in my edit bay. Again, I don't do HEAVY audio post, mostly documentaries and TV commercials for broadcast and training and promo videos. If you're mixing music, look elsewhere. "Standard" video faire? A very reasonable solution. Connectivity includes 1/8" TRS stereo, rca stereo and optical and coaxial digital. Andrew Clark September 7th, 2009, 07:49 PM Nigel / Shaun - Do either of you have a Sub-Woofer hooked up to these? And if so, what model / brand would you recommend? Robert Lane September 7th, 2009, 10:05 PM Andrew, The model isn't nearly as important as proper setup; if you look at the Blue Sky support pages about how they advise setting up their systems with respect to unit placements and directionals you can use nearly that exact procedure for any 2.1/5.1 system. Andrew Clark September 7th, 2009, 10:46 PM Thanks Robert!! I was at a Guitar Center and heard the Blue Sky monitors you mentioned....in a 2.1 setup....very nice sound. I was also considering the Yamaha HS50m's, the Alesis M1's, M-Audio BX series....but am glad that I did a little bit of research here before making a purchase. Thanks to all you for sharing your inputs. If you all have any more suggestions, please do tell!! I would most appreciate it. Robert Lane September 8th, 2009, 08:15 AM Actually, audio setups specifically with various brands and which type to buy - either large-sized near-fields not easily combined with a sub or, a complete 2.1 system instead - is something I've spent quite a bit of time researching and testing. It's one of the things I'll be putting on my upcoming review and workflow site, coming soon. The short version is that Blue Sky systems, specifically either the Media Desk or more expensive Pro Desk versions have in point of fact the most accurate and well thought out pro-level near-field monitors I've ever tested. Better still than even the venerable Dynaudio, Adam and Genelec brands, and that's stiff competition. Above all, stay away from the M-Audio monitors regardless the series; even their top-of-the-line offerings have way too much built-in floor noise than other brands at similar prices. (You can plug them in and even before connecting any device hear a low yet perceptible and annoying "hiss"). The Blue Sky Media Desk is unbeatable even by more expensive systems costing double the price - but *proper setup* will make all the difference in your actual performance, so make sure you read up on the procedure and be patient finding that sweet spot in your room. Phillip Palacios September 9th, 2009, 09:21 AM I needed some monitors for my edit system and ended up with the Mackie MR5 monitors. They are very inexpensive ($175 Each) easy to hook up (TRS, XLR, or RCA) and as far as I can tell have great sound for an edit suite. They aren't what I'd choose for sound engineering, but they are miles better than any computer speaker, and perfectly acceptable in an edit suite. I put them on stands at the proper level and position and havnt looked back. Andrew Clark September 9th, 2009, 01:10 PM I've had my BlueSky Pro Desk monitors .... What's the difference between the ProDesk, MediaDesk and EXO versions...(besides the price obviously)? .....If you really want to go all out and get the best possible audio, use the SPDIF optical in/out on the MacPro into any device that can use them. Then you'll really hear something different. Would this include the Edirol/Roland MA-15D's....for your mention of optical out? Robert Lane September 9th, 2009, 04:28 PM The best way to answer that question is to visit Blue Sky (http://www.abluesky.com) and see for yourself. EXO - bottom of the line Media Desk - step up in satellite size and driver quality Pro Desk - Quantum leap up in satellite and sub quality, especially the tweeter technology. The Rolands do have an optical in but don't come anywhere close to the sonic quality of even the EXO system. Andrew Clark September 9th, 2009, 05:52 PM Thanks Robert. Yeah, I visited the Blue Sky website; specs are nice, but I'd prefer to have a listen to them. So I sent them an email for suggestions of any local dealers in my area that would stock these. So are you utilizing the ProDesk system for your video productions or audio productions or both? Robert Lane September 9th, 2009, 08:42 PM After demoing Adam, Genelec, DynAudio, JBL, Mackie, M-Audio and Event over a 3-month period I landed first on the Blue Sky Media Desk and shortly thereafter the Pro Desk. I haven't heard or tested anything else that comes close at any price point - except the Big Blue which isn't designed for desktop single users but for large audio post facilities like Crystal Sound in Dallas or BMG. Mitchell Lewis September 9th, 2009, 09:38 PM Blue Sky = best inexpensive system for the money (we bought a set for our second edit suite) What ever you buy, make sure you get a powered sub with it. But I'd highly recommend a mixing board. You won't ever regret buying it. -place to plug in a microphone -place to plug in headphones -place to plug in the outputs of a variety of gear -volume controls within easy reach -metering so you can monitor your levels accurately Plus, they always impress the clients! :) Andrew Clark September 10th, 2009, 01:18 AM After demoing Adam, Genelec, DynAudio, JBL, Mackie, M-Audio and Event over a 3-month period I landed first on the Blue Sky Media Desk and shortly thereafter the Pro Desk. I haven't heard or tested anything else that comes close at any price point - except the Big Blue which isn't designed for desktop single users but for large audio post facilities like Crystal Sound in Dallas or BMG. Finally, somebody that knows Event monitors!! Was it the TR8's or something more high end? By the way, did you ever get a chance to try the Yamaha's HS (50's or 80's) with or without the HS10w sub? Robert Lane September 10th, 2009, 04:03 PM I believe it was the TR8's (larger main driver) and found them completely unrealistic and boomy, often even muddy in the low end. The Yamaha's were surprisingly no better than the M-Audio's; noisy, poor midrange and very poor imaging. Ron Wilk September 10th, 2009, 07:43 PM Just thought that I would add a word to the mix. A mixing board is a great idea, if you have the room, but inputting directly into the Mac might require some level of sonic compromise. We have a separate audio suite for voice overs and for laying down tracks, however, the video editing suite (FCP 7/Logic 9, etc.) employs a Presonus Central Station to feed a pair of Event 5 (not the least bit muddy) and or Adam (more natural mids and high freq. than Events but more costly) monitors plus sub. The Central station receives its feed from a Black Magic Multibridge Eclipse which is interfaced to an 8 core Intel/Mac. There is less expensive hardware available to accomplish the same end, but this basic chain concept, for our purposes, has proven to be the most flexible and sonically sound approach, not to mention the video capability of the Blackmagic Design box. Andrew Clark September 11th, 2009, 10:26 PM Hi Ron - Are you saying that a mixing board has a lesser sonic quality than using a device such as the PCS unit you mentioned? I'm a total novice, so that's why I ask this. I'm looking at getting a pretty decent set of powered monitors w/a sub .... and of course, am looking at all the options on how to connect them to my (2009) MacPro. Looking at the PCS unit, it looks like I would be able to connect the optical out from the MacPro to the PCS unit? And yes, keeping cost down would be nice....but would also like to have clean, quality audio too!! Ron Wilk September 12th, 2009, 10:24 AM Hi Ron - Are you saying that a mixing board has a lesser sonic quality than using a device such as the PCS unit you mentioned? ... ! No, not at all, just that the devices that I described are rack mountable and take up less real estate in the studio. When I suggested the possibility of sonic compromise, I was referring to powered speakers connected directly to the mac, without any intervening interface that should allow for a balanced signal. Nigel Barker September 18th, 2009, 08:38 AM The Rolands do have an optical in but don't come anywhere close to the sonic quality of even the EXO system.I guess it all depends on your budget & requirements. Even the bottom of the line EXO are double the price of the Roland/Edirol MA-15D. The Media Desk are about 4X & the Pro Desk >7X the price of the MA-15D. |