View Full Version : Camo/nature clothing. What's your choice of clothing?
Russ Holland February 14th, 2009, 12:35 PM I just kitted myself out with a Jack Pyke hunting suit. I got a good range of Pyke clothing now for out in the field, but I was wondering what you guys/gals wear when filming out and about. We do hunt in a way I suppose, but my trophies end up on DVD not my Walls!
What's your preference to the different types of clothing available to wildlife film makers?
Shaun Roemich February 14th, 2009, 01:06 PM In North America, Cabela's pretty much has the market cornered, as a retailer and as a brand. From undies to boots to high performance outerwear in both conventional and camo, I never cease to be amazed at the quality OR the cost.
Andy Tejral February 14th, 2009, 01:18 PM I don't have need for camo but when I'm on any serious kind of shoot, I wear Carhartt double front pants--for formal events, they even come in black.
I used to wear out the knees in Lee jeans in a month or so--at one point I had like 5 pairs with one worn knee and the rest like new. Carhartts last much longer--plus when one knee is worn through you can clean it up and use the one underneath.
David G. Burt February 14th, 2009, 02:54 PM I'm based in the UK & use Max-4 camou pattern most of the time plus just ordinary coloured clothes nothing bright of course - just my personal preference.
The camou pattern doesn't really matter, eventhough so manufacturers will tell you different, the key objective is to breakup your outline/pattern & keep quiet. Try to use natural vegitation/features to tuck close in to. I always use clothes made from rustle free material.
Per Johan Naesje February 15th, 2009, 01:13 AM This camo thing is often overestimated as "the most important thing to do wildlife recording" IMHO!
Animals and birds don't care about colors, many of them don't even see the difference to different kind of colors and some see the world (almost) in black and white!
My experience doing wildlife recordings for quite some time is that keep movements and sound to a minumum is much more important to get close to the wildlife. If you're able to sit quiet and without movements, you could where yellow or red for that matter.
A blind/hide if legitimate in your area, is the best way. It dosn't have to be a special made blind. Some branches or other covering material will often do. Comfortable and warm clothing is essential, but colors don't matter!
Mat Thompson February 15th, 2009, 05:26 AM I think Per is spot on with keeping movement to a minimum, and keeping it slow and non-threatening! This is certainly what I have found with most species. I think a mixture of the two however and you've really got it right!
Mike Beckett February 15th, 2009, 05:47 AM I have to make do with dark colours - good quality North Face-type outdoor gear.
If you go out and about wearing camouflage gear in this part of the world, you get a lot of funny looks, and you're more than likely to have to the police asking questions!
Dale Bohlke February 15th, 2009, 07:36 AM I think a pair of dark gloves helps mask hand movement, especially when filming small birds. Animals are frequently aware of our presence by smell and by staying still they tolerate us. Each individual animal seems to have a comfort zone, the trick is to find the one that is the most tolerant and film away.
Dale
Brendan Marnell February 15th, 2009, 04:42 PM I wear specs all the time so I have found that keeping my head tilted slightly downward reduces the number of times light is reflected by them. While learning to practice that I have also found that all birds and animals feel unthreatened if I pass them with my head tilted downwards. I think this has to do with what creatures are accustomed to. At remote feeding stations for vultures, the approach of my selfdrive car within 150metres is enough to scatter a flock for hours. But when a familiar van loaded with offal arrives they stand around completely unperturbed while the cargo is unloaded within a few metres until the driver moves off without even looking at them.
From this I conclude that although vultures are very cautious by nature (because they are slow to escape attack at ground level) they will accept intruders that do not pose a threat.
But unless you have a week to prove your innocence (which few of us have) the best bet is to BE SEEN to be quite still, for hours if necessary, and again the following day(s). A folding swivel seat, a trousers with ample ballroom and gear selected by the weather forecast are my choice for shooting in the open.
From a hide I cover the openings with camou.
John M. McCloskey February 16th, 2009, 10:27 AM Camoflauge helps tremendously when getting close is needed. If you have a 13X lens which is about the norm with fixed lens cameras, you gotta get close. I always use Mossy Oak camo. There are many animals that dont care about color or slight movement. But if your dealing with a Wild Turkey you better be fully camoed and dead still. If your dealing with a Wild Whitetail deer, just move slow and make sure your wind is right. If he smells you you will never see him all you will hear is blowing. Groundblinds made by Eastman are very affordable and give you almost 360 degree videoing. Have had great results with Mossy Oak camo and Eastman blinds
Tim Cee February 16th, 2009, 01:06 PM I guess I am the odd man out, or just odd. I wear shorts and a tank top, both black. I also wear hiking boots. It does not matter if I am local or in Yellowstone, I wear the same thing. I call it my shootin suit.
Russ Holland February 17th, 2009, 07:15 AM Great feedback thanks. It's interesting stuff.
Paul Inglis February 18th, 2009, 05:07 AM I have found that noises and smells tend to be more of a problem in getting close to wildlife than visual. No matter what clothing I wear I ensure it doesn’t make a sound. I tape over Velcro, leave zips open and wear cotton (and material alike).
I also ensure that I don’t have smells that animals associate with humans such as perfume and soap products or eating foods such as mints in the field. I also approach animals from downwind too.
Camouflage isn’t necessary (even though I love my camo stuff) but dark clothing does help. Steer clear of anything bright and reflective as that could appear to be movement to an animal. I’ve found that the human outline arouses the animal to our presence and prefer to break up my outline with scrim over me and my tripod. If I’m in an area for a while then a hide/blind is a real boon.
Been neither heard/smelt/seen all helps produce footage of animals behaving naturally. If an animal is aware of your presence it may not behave as naturally as if it didn’t.
Annie Haycock February 24th, 2009, 02:55 AM Fully agree with Paul - and those 2 square metres/yards of scrim are probably the most used bits of non-camera gear in my bag.
Ron Chant February 24th, 2009, 08:45 AM Some animals see color and others only see the shaded side, white through to black.
Camouflage is to break up your outline it helps you blend in to your background,
it’s movement that will give you away, uncovered face and hand movement.
In the cold and wet I still wear my DPM goretex jacket, although now a little tight.
Take a look at the blog below.
‘Can you see me? Animal camouflage’
Can You See Me? | Animal Camouflage The Conservation Report (http://conservationreport.com/tag/can-you-see-me-animal-camouflage/)
David Rice February 24th, 2009, 08:57 AM Get yourself a one person Camo Chair blind like this one at Cabela's.
I have one of these:Cabela's -- Ameristep Deluxe One-Man Chair Blind (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0064176229705a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntt=chair+blind&Ntk=Products&sort=all&Go.y=9&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&_D%3Asort=+&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form1&Go.x=21&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1)
Easy to carry
Weighs around ten pounds
Very Comfortable to sit in.
Excellent visiblity.
Protects you from the wind, and blocks your scent.
Plenty of room for yourself, a camera on a tripod, and extra gear like a thermos of coffee.
Best of all, you can shoot in a driving rain storm!
Best investment I have made yet.
David Rice
Sitka Alaska
Russ Holland February 24th, 2009, 01:13 PM Yes Ron, that's where my experience led me. My shape and movement needed to be disguised. The Jack Pyke clothing is designed to be silent when i move about and the English oak pattern keeps me blended in. I also have gloves and full face mask. My camera is also covered with camo tape.
Dale Guthormsen February 24th, 2009, 03:46 PM Good afternoon,
It makes sense to do all the obvious things filming just as one would hunting with a Bow or Spear to get close.
Camoflauge is an asset but is not essential.
If you are in the late summer and fall desert storm camo is awesome
If you are in a heavy forest then real tree or such.
Preperation, knowing the animals behaviors, adapting yours to suit the individual animals and you will always do well. Knowing the species will allow one to anticipate where to set up to film. You really are hunting to a high level!!
Bottom line, common sense!!
Kenneth Burgener February 24th, 2009, 06:52 PM if you are not comfortable you will not spend as much time in the wilds. I work in the Everglades, and get soaking wet all day. The best advise that I can give everyone is to wear cool max underwear, and all cool max clothes (or your brand of wicking clothes.)
I have a friend who wears camo all the time. He says it it gets him one extra shot, it is worth it. You gotta wear something any way, so why not camo.
Ken.
Annie Haycock February 26th, 2009, 02:39 AM I have one of these, though I haven't used it for photography/video yet. I'm doing some seabird surveys which involves sitting out on a headland in often windy and wet weather. The blind gives me shelter - it's back to that comfort aspect. If you're cold and wet, you won't do as well, or last as long, as if you're comfortable. In the coldest weather (here, that means around freezing with wind-chill) I was also wearing insulated waterproof ski-pants.
The disacvantage of the blind is the extra 12 pounds plus the extra bulk of carrying it across country.
David Rice February 26th, 2009, 07:04 PM Annie,
Get yourself a small lightweight portable propane cylinder heater. The smallest you can find. Set the heater at your feet in the chair blind. It will get so warm inside that he will be able to work in your short sleeves. I just love my blind. In Wind, Snow, or Driving Rain. It even keeps the hoards of bugs out.
My family is from Wales. Somewhere called the Ryse River? They came over around 1800.
Dave
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