View Full Version : "Crank 2" shot on XH-A1


Kevin Shahinian
February 10th, 2009, 02:53 PM
A friend forwarded this bit of news A1 shooters might find interesting:

Lions Gate and Lakeshore Entertainment's second installment of the "Crank" series, "Crank 2: High Voltage," starring Jason Statham and Amy Smart, set for release in 2009, is to be filmed on prosumer level HDV cameras, namely the Canon XH-A1 and HF10.

Here is the website & trailer: Crank 2: High Voltage - APRIL 17, 2009 - Trailer, Pictures, News (http://www.crankhighvoltage.com)

More on the production:

Crank 2: High Voltage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_2)

http://jackcabbage.blogspot.com/2008...r-crank-2.html

Never saw the first one... Not a huge fan. But I'm curious to see their results on the big screen. Trailer looks promising re: look.

Anyone have insight into their workflow? I hear its all bare cams, no adapters.

-K

Bill Thesken
February 10th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Yep it was posted a few months ago. Still wondering if anyone has inside info on the presets used. I saw the interview where they said they used -3db and did some wild stuff in-camera, but no other details. Anyone know?

Steve Lewis
February 13th, 2009, 02:11 AM
Yeah,
This 720p trailer looks amazing:
Apple - Movie Trailers - Crank 2 (http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/crank2/hd/)

I don't know how they are getting that quality!? When I export at 6Mbps, H.264 at 1280x720 it doesn't look nearly that good! I wish someone could figure out how they process the footage and export.

-Steve

Eric Weiss
February 14th, 2009, 03:21 PM
I saw the trailer at the cinema, it looked great.
The "quality" of the footage didn't look any different from what I can typically get
using manual controls and some post color correction. 6M h.2 is further compressed and nearly 1/3 of the bitrate of native. of course it would lose quality.

to maintain quality i edit m2ts and export to m2t.. then either send the master back to the tape or go to blu-ray for viewing. i use sony vegas for all of that..including color correction with its tools or magic bullet. for sd, i use an hv20 to downconvert on the fly to the drive. it does a great job.


Yeah,
This 720p trailer looks amazing:
Apple - Movie Trailers - Crank 2 (http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/crank2/hd/)

I don't know how they are getting that quality!? When I export at 6Mbps, H.264 at 1280x720 it doesn't look nearly that good! I wish someone could figure out how they process the footage and export.

-Steve

James R. Leong
March 26th, 2009, 01:16 AM
The April issue of HDvideoPro has a 5 page article on the use of Canon XH-A1 for Crank 2.

HD Video Equipment - HD Video Tips - HD Video Technique | HDVideoPro.com (http://www.hdvideopro.com/)

Brian Lakusta
March 26th, 2009, 09:19 PM
The April issue of HDvideoPro has a 5 page article on the use of Canon XH-A1 for Crank 2.

HD Video Equipment - HD Video Tips - HD Video Technique | HDVideoPro.com (http://www.hdvideopro.com/)

Is this issue part of the email newsletter they offer? Or is the issues only in hard copy?

Brian

James R. Leong
March 28th, 2009, 04:45 PM
Probably hard copy only... .the link just shows the latest cover with the director rollerblading while holding an XH-A1 in one hand and holding the back of a motorcycle with his other hand...

Neill Watson
May 23rd, 2009, 07:41 AM
Just watched the trailer on the Apple site. Very nice. However, I noticed several shots on very wide angles, any suggestions on how they were achieved?

Currently borrowing an XHG1 for a short while, so madly reading everything I can about XH Canons...

Neill W

Paul Thomson
May 30th, 2009, 06:32 AM
I would love to read that article - anyone know how to get hold of a copy in the UK(London)?

Cheers,

Paul

Bryan Gilchrist
August 4th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Just ran across this...nice behind the scenes footage. Didn't see any XH-A1's though...

Video: The Digital Cameras of CRANK High Voltage (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp?aid=11545&tcid=1)

Mike Calla
August 5th, 2009, 12:10 AM
oh man what a horrible movie...
oh man what a great looking movie!

Seriously, it looked good.

Sean Finnegan
August 5th, 2009, 02:48 PM
oh man what a horrible movie...
oh man what a great looking movie!

Seriously, it looked good.

I don't think "good" is the way I'd describe the look of Crank 2. I'd say "unique". DP Brandon Trost stated that he was going for a really gritty look, and that is pretty much what he got. Personally, I don't think gritty looks good, but it certainly suits the film.

Bill Pryor
August 5th, 2009, 03:24 PM
They used the XH A1's as their "big" cameras and a bunch of the Canon HF single chip cams that they stuck in various places, under tables, on top of light poles, etc. There was one photo in one of the articles showing the cameraman skating backwards on roller blades with about or 8 of the little cameras mounted on a U-shaped arrangement of PVC tubing, while the actor ran directly at him, so the actor was almost totally surrounded by cameras. A portable "bullet time" arrangement. Some very clever stuff in the film, I've read.

I liked the look of the trailers but I doubt I could sit through another Crank movie. Maybe I'll watch some of it after Netflix gets it.

Jack Walker
August 5th, 2009, 11:59 PM
Just ran across this...nice behind the scenes footage. Didn't see any XH-A1's though...

Video: The Digital Cameras of CRANK High Voltage (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp?aid=11545&tcid=1)
What video do you mean? The video I found at the link you gave is all XH-A1 (the first part and the last part) and the middle secion, the small cameras, are the Canon HF10.

Sean Finnegan
August 6th, 2009, 02:09 AM
What's funny is that the moment I commented on this thread Brandon Trost (the cinematographer of Crank: High Voltage) messaged me on Facebook and gave me his number, evidently he wants to have a talk.

Bryan Gilchrist
August 7th, 2009, 11:54 AM
What's funny is that the moment I commented on this thread Brandon Trost (the cinematographer of Crank: High Voltage) messaged me on Facebook and gave me his number, evidently he wants to have a talk.

Can we say "Crank 3"?

Wonder if this one will be called "Arc Enemies"....get it..."arc" as in an electric arc. (can I has a ba dum cshh?)

Sean Finnegan
August 8th, 2009, 02:59 PM
Haha, I don't know about that. I spoke with him on the phone yesterday, he's got a number of features lined up for the next couple years so a Crank 3 is unlikely. Well what is unlikely is that Brandon Trost will be serving as the cinematographer for Crank 3. Maybe I'll see if he can't throw in a good word for me!

Bryan Gilchrist
August 11th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Haha, I don't know about that. I spoke with him on the phone yesterday, he's got a number of features lined up for the next couple years so a Crank 3 is unlikely. Well what is unlikely is that Brandon Trost will be serving as the cinematographer for Crank 3. Maybe I'll see if he can't throw in a good word for me!

Better buy some roller blades! ;)

Brian Lakusta
September 13th, 2009, 04:30 PM
oh man what a horrible movie...
oh man what a great looking movie!

Seriously, it looked good.


Since I have a XH A1 I had to check out the movie, bought Crank and Crank 2 HV on BD and just watched them last night.

Yes, movies were a bit odd but they looked great. If I could only do that with my XH A1 and HV20. I still have to learn editing, maybe a this winter project. PC has been updated for pp HD vid but no software yet. Waiting to load Win 7 in a month. Then maybe try my 30 day trial of Sony Vegas.


Shocked that a $3000 & $1000 camera can make a motion picture, good for them to make something looking that good!

Janson Williams
September 23rd, 2009, 03:45 PM
all should watch the "making of" of crank 2, shot at a high shutter speed, 1/2200 i saw on one of the test shots. the colorists said it would be some work getting the directors the picture quality they want. i love the movie and am stoked it was filmed with A1's, used a wide angle adapter a lot, i only have a fisheye, def need a wide angle