Mike Chandler
May 27th, 2009, 06:28 PM
The problem, Zenes, is that a 5-second delay is way too long to be of any practical use.
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Mike Chandler May 27th, 2009, 06:28 PM The problem, Zenes, is that a 5-second delay is way too long to be of any practical use. David C. Williams May 27th, 2009, 08:35 PM Then change ATW Speed to 1 Zenes Petrusin May 27th, 2009, 11:35 PM atw speed is change speed between change white from 1 (slower) to 5 (faster) i think, reaction of ATW affects shock white setting.. this setings now works very well, befour no Mike Chandler May 30th, 2009, 03:33 PM Then change ATW Speed to 1 That does nothing to adjust the time it takes for atw to kick in, merely the ramping once it does kick in. Adam Reuter May 30th, 2009, 04:35 PM While I agree that with a $6K+ camera ATW should be better than a Best Buy-purchased camcorder...professionals should NOT be using this "feature"! I always either white balance to Warm Cards (with my setup I'm just using the 100IRE White side of the card set most of the time) or set my color temperature with Preset. Indoors I am 3200K or 2000K and outdoors anywhere from 5600K on a cloudless day, 6300K overcast and 8000-9000K in the shade. I use my still camera the same way. I NEVER use auto white balance because color correcting footage is a b*tch. I'd rather want 50 pictures or 5 minutes of footage that is a little off-white balance and is consistent than 5 minutes of footage that is off-white sometimes, perfectly white balanced another percentage off-white on the other side the other. Color correctors will agree with me whole-heartedly there! Just like I never use auth-iris on the EX1! I wish there was a way to disable pretty much all auto features on the EX1 so that I don't accidentally bump a switch! So...like others before have said, start using your camera the way it was meant to. David C. Williams May 30th, 2009, 05:58 PM That does nothing to adjust the time it takes for atw to kick in, merely the ramping once it does kick in. And? That's what the firmware fixes. Tom Roper May 30th, 2009, 07:58 PM Just like I never use auth-iris on the EX1! I wish there was a way to disable pretty much all auto features on the EX1 so that I don't accidentally bump a switch! No, what's needed is to have menu settings be part of the picture profile. Mike Chandler May 31st, 2009, 03:05 PM And? That's what the firmware fixes. David--I can't speak to the ex1 firmware fix, as I'm using an ex3, and while I have v1.03 firmware, my understanding is that 1.04 changed only the flicker reduce setting and didn't deal with atw. But based on what Zenes wrote... but now with 1.13 reacting time from daylight to tungsten light and back is 5s max... ...I don't think the ex1 has been fixed much either. 5 seconds was what I was getting on average for the day to tungstgen delay on the ex3, (sometimes 6 or 7 depending on brightness,) which is still unacceptably slow. .professionals should NOT be using this "feature"!...So...like others before have said, start using your camera the way it was meant to. There are times when auto features can help, and walking from exterior to interior without having to stop shooting could be one of them. That it is a feature useable on some cameras , but not this one, is too bad. I don't mind using the servo to zoom with, and I wouldn't mind having this feature either. Zenes Petrusin June 1st, 2009, 01:57 AM David--I can't speak to the ex1 firmware fix, as I'm using an ex3, and while I have v1.03 firmware, my understanding is that 1.04 changed only the flicker reduce setting and didn't deal with atw. But based on what Zenes wrote... EX1 has flicker reduce setting firmware update too as EX3, this fw is 1.12.. But i think 1.13 corrected speeded booting camera and working with ATW, no reply from sony service what 1.13 realy has new or bug corrected. Mike Chandler June 1st, 2009, 06:53 AM Then maybe there's a firmware coming for the ex3 that addresses atw? Chris Clifton June 1st, 2009, 02:03 PM I set the WB PRESET button in PP settings to 5600, and then I set A to 3200, so it is instant indoor/outdoor with a flip of the switch just like on any broadcast camera. I think the B side uses ATW, which I never use unless I'm doing a run'n gun walking shot interior to exterior or vice versa. Zenes Petrusin June 1st, 2009, 04:19 PM I uploaded video how ATW works in fw1.13 between Tungsten light and lcd, befoure dont worked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wETixW2vg0k or http://www.vimeo.com/4951543 End of video shows how speed boot EX1 with 1.13, i think little speeded Vaughan Wood June 1st, 2009, 06:01 PM "End of video shows how speed boot EX1 with 1.13, i think little speeded" I think MUCH speeded. 5 secs instead of my 10 secs. However 1.13 is unheard of here in Aus. Cheers, Vaughan Mike Chandler June 2nd, 2009, 07:52 AM That looks like about the delay I'm getting with the ex3 (5 secs), so I'd say that the current firmware has already incorporated the change. |