View Full Version : Malfunctioning Quicktime Files in Vegas Pro 8.0


Kent Frost
January 24th, 2009, 03:40 PM
For some reason, when I put them into my timeline of either Vegas OR Premiere, all of my quicktime video files now have white flashing. When I play the individual files back using the quicktime media player, it doesn't flash, but where it flashes in my editor, they appear to be repeated frames when played back in the quicktime player...as if the qt player is just making up for frames that are no longer there.

Has anyone else had this experience? If so, did you fix it? How? I would understand if it were a damaged file, but this is happening to ALL my QT files, no matter where they're located. Is this possibly a codec problem?

Kent Frost
January 25th, 2009, 01:31 PM
Anyone? Anyone at all?

Perrone Ford
January 25th, 2009, 01:42 PM
How did you make the quicktime files, and what codec was used?

Kent Frost
January 26th, 2009, 06:30 PM
That's the problem. I'm not sure. I used Vegas 8.0 when I rendered them, so I have no idea why this is happening. I have them all on separate hard drives, and then one day the laptop crashed. Everything on the drives outside the laptop were safe. When I reloaded XP (same version) and loaded all my programs back onto it, suddenly I have this problem. And it's not just with the files on one particular drive. I have 3 drives outside my laptop, and the files I have on all 3 are doing this. The codec was for Motion-JPEG B, which, checking again, my copy of Vegas has. So it wasn't something I had to add on after the Vegas installation the first time.

I hope that makes sense. LoL

Kent Frost
January 29th, 2009, 07:43 AM
Anybody else? I'm still having this problem!

Kent Frost
February 7th, 2009, 09:46 PM
Anybody else? I'm still having this problem!

..........

Kent Frost
February 15th, 2009, 11:32 AM
Alright, well thanks for the help, everybody!

Hugh Mobley
February 15th, 2009, 11:57 AM
In my opinion Vegas does not like QT files, QT looks at color differently I believe, I have had some some success lately capturing m2t and converting to mov. in cineform Neo HDV, and then editing, worked without a hitch. I rendered in vegas using QT with the dropdown codec cineform hd2k4k, I think I picked that up by trying the demo of HD 2k4k of cineform one time, don't know, all I know is that I have it and use it. it also has advanced to check 444, it does produce an especially nice video.

Pavel Tomanec
February 15th, 2009, 02:11 PM
I have a similar problem. Footage captured in Final Cut Pro but cutting it in Vegas, because my Mac went to hospital for a week. The only thing I get is audio, no picture at all from the quick time files.

Not good.

Perrone Ford
February 15th, 2009, 05:22 PM
I have a similar problem.


Your problem is most likely completely unrelated.


Footage captured in Final Cut Pro but cutting it in Vegas, because my Mac went to hospital for a week. The only thing I get is audio, no picture at all from the quick time files.

Not good.

Install the latest version of quicktime on the PC, reboot, and your problems will most likely magically disappear.

Perrone Ford
February 15th, 2009, 05:24 PM
In my opinion Vegas does not like QT files, QT looks at color differently I believe...

My Vegas system seems to like quicktime just fine, and seems to "look at color" no differently than it's supposed to.

Kent Frost
February 16th, 2009, 02:01 AM
I have to agree with Perrone here. I've been using Vegas for many years now with little to no problem with .mov files, and that includes the current version I'm experiencing the problem with. This is the first time it's happened.

Are there known issues with new versions of Quicktime having problems with files encoded with previous versions?

EDIT: I should also mention I'm shooting SD, not HD.

Paul Fierlinger
February 19th, 2009, 01:47 PM
My problem with QT Pro 7.6 is that I cannot render QT files out of Vegas. I have no problems loading and playing back QT clips, but when I attempt to render my avi clips as QT (using any codec contained within QT) I get a microsecond of an appearance of a popup panel and that's it. The only thing that appears on my designated HD spot where I want to save the file is a qt.mov.sfl file. Am I the only one with this problem?

Kent Frost
February 27th, 2009, 10:52 AM
Well, the problem I'm having is not related to the machine I was using. I just installed the same version of Vegas on my work computer and I'm getting the same result....with files I haven't even tried it with that were all on YET ANOTHER hard drive. All my QT video files are flickering like mad, and there are red frames appearing in the timeline.

Can ANYONE help me with this at all???

Perrone Ford
February 27th, 2009, 11:04 AM
Upload of of the files here:

ftp://98.230.31.52/

Kent Frost
February 27th, 2009, 11:06 AM
That won't be necessary. I've got hosting. Give me a few minutes and I'll post a link.

I'm really interested to learn how this started happening. It's universal throughout ALL my QT files spread out over 4 drives, so I have a tough time believing that the files themselves would all simultaneously become corrupt.

Back in a bit.

Kent Frost
February 27th, 2009, 11:13 AM
Here's my logo. If you play in Quicktime, you'll notice a slight stutter. But if you put it in the timeline of either Vegas OR Premiere, once again, you'll see a bad flicker and red frames in the timeline.

http://www.spiralphoto.com/video/spirallogo.mov

Kent Frost
February 27th, 2009, 11:14 AM
I KNEW IT WASN'T A CORRUPT FILE!!!

I just played the file back on my Firefox-based quicktime and it plays FLAWLESSLY!!

I don't get it!!!????

Perrone Ford
February 27th, 2009, 11:56 AM
Codec is Motion JPEG B. Of all the formats that could have been selected...

Your files aren't corrupted. They are in a crappy codec. One without a firm standard, and in the case of the "B" variant, one that doesn't keep discrete frames. Probably why the editor is having issues with them.

Kent Frost
February 27th, 2009, 12:00 PM
Would Motion JPEG A be a better choice? And would you suggest a way to correct the issue? Or perhaps a quick fix I can use to get the files rendered to another file type (probably AVI)?

Perrone Ford
February 27th, 2009, 12:35 PM
Would Motion JPEG A be a better choice? And would you suggest a way to correct the issue? Or perhaps a quick fix I can use to get the files rendered to another file type (probably AVI)?

Yes, MJpegA would have at least preserved the frames. Unfortunately, once you've thrown the frames away, you can't get them back by re-rendering. If the files play properly in Quicktime, then perhaps purchasing quicktime pro is the answer. That's probably the route I'd follow. QTPro will let you encode to another format from right inside quicktime. Chance of success will probably be best doing that. And it's $30 I think, so pretty cheap.

Kent Frost
February 27th, 2009, 12:38 PM
Well, that's the thing. The files DON'T play properly in the actual quicktime player (It doesn't flicker, but it does stutter as if it were repeating frames), but they play fine when streamed on the Mozilla Firefox QT plugin....which I don't understand.

I'll look at QTPro and see if I can't save these.

Thanks for all the help!

Kent Frost
February 27th, 2009, 01:28 PM
Mr. Ford, you, sir, are a man among men. You just fixed my problem, and I am back in business!

THANK YOU!!!!

Perrone Ford
February 27th, 2009, 01:41 PM
Glad to hear that worked for you. So QTPro was the solution?

Kent Frost
February 28th, 2009, 02:26 PM
Yessir it was. :)