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Josh Swan January 15th, 2009, 01:19 PM I've been using a AT897 for my weddings and am in need of purchasing a new mic. I haven't really used anything else. Do you guys have any suggestions on which shotgun might be the best bang for the buck? (I wouldn't mind if it was a bit cheeper in price)
Thank you
Dan Brockett January 15th, 2009, 02:16 PM I have two for you...
As I Hear It - Choosing the Right Microphone (http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/right_mic_brockett.html)
Low Cost Shotgun Microphone Comparison (http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/review_shotgun_mics.html)
Dan
Mark Cinense January 15th, 2009, 03:36 PM Dan,
thanks for the links.
Mark
Ty Ford January 15th, 2009, 03:58 PM I've been using a AT897 for my weddings and am in need of purchasing a new mic. I haven't really used anything else. Do you guys have any suggestions on which shotgun might be the best bang for the buck? (I wouldn't mind if it was a bit cheeper in price)
Thank you
Josh,
Why do you want new shotgun mic?
Regards,
Ty Ford
Jeff Kellam January 16th, 2009, 11:10 AM I have two for you...
As I Hear It - Choosing the Right Microphone (http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/right_mic_brockett.html)
Low Cost Shotgun Microphone Comparison (http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/review_shotgun_mics.html)
Dan
Dan:
A great resource, thanks!
Jeff
Dan Brockett January 16th, 2009, 12:52 PM You are welcome guys.
I am thinking I will need to review/test the Rode Mics sometime this year because they seem to have just grown in popularity over the past year or so. When I wrote the last mic article, the Rodes were still kind of "underground". Also, Ty recommended the Audix SC-1 that I would like to try as well. Did try to obtain the AKG Blueline mics but they would not cooperate.
I shot at a movie premier last night with my HPX170 with the Audio Technica AT875r mounted on camera. I was working alone and managed to shoot red carpet interviews. I had the camera about a foot from the actors and the audio was totally usable. Didn't sound as good as it would from a boom, but for a noisy, crazy situation like a typical red carpet setup, it worked out really well.
This cheap little mic continues to impress me every time I use it.
Dan
Jay Gladwell January 16th, 2009, 02:52 PM Dan, the NTG-3 will be a VERY pleasant surprise!
Josh Swan January 16th, 2009, 03:11 PM The AT897 was a friends of mine, he let me borrow it for a while. I am purchasing a mic so I didn't know if you guys had any thoughts on different ones.
Jon Braeley January 16th, 2009, 03:44 PM You are welcome guys.
I am thinking I will need to review/test the Rode Mics sometime this year because they seem to have just grown in popularity over the past year or so. When I wrote the last mic article, the Rodes were still kind of "underground". Also, Ty recommended the Audix SC-1 that I would like to try as well. Did try to obtain the AKG Blueline mics but they would not cooperate.
I shot at a movie premier last night with my HPX170 with the Audio Technica AT875r mounted on camera. I was working alone and managed to shoot red carpet interviews. I had the camera about a foot from the actors and the audio was totally usable. Didn't sound as good as it would from a boom, but for a noisy, crazy situation like a typical red carpet setup, it worked out really well.
This cheap little mic continues to impress me every time I use it.
Dan
I got the AT875 last year - initially as a small 'travel' option for my remote shoots where taking tons of gear is not an option. I also take along the AT4035a.
These two mics are amazing - especially the AT875 for the money. I find myself using these all the time.
Jack Walker January 16th, 2009, 03:50 PM You are welcome guys.
cooperate.
I shot at a movie premier last night with my HPX170 with the Audio Technica AT875r mounted on camera....
This cheap little mic continues to impress me every time I use it.
Dan
After reading Dan's review, and wanting a small, good quality shotgun, I bought an AT875R.
For on camera, travel, impromptu boom/clip and other uses, this mic is great.
There is nothing like it considering size, price, sound, low-handling noise, and versatility:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/495302-REG/Audio_Technica_AT875R_AT875_Short_Condenser_Shotgun.html
Mike Leah January 16th, 2009, 05:22 PM Slightly off topic but, How good is the schoeps cmit 5u? The clips that i have heard of it sound really good. Is there anything better in the similar pricerange?
Jack Walker January 16th, 2009, 06:20 PM Slightly off topic but, How good is the schoeps cmit 5u? The clips that i have heard of it sound really good. Is there anything better in the similar pricerange?
Here's a review in Mix Magazine:
Schoeps CMIT 5 U shotgun mic in Mix magazine product review of the Schoeps CMIT 5U shotgun microphone (http://mixonline.com/gear/reviews/audio_schoeps_cmit_shotgun/)
It has been very popular in Hollywood.
Dan Brockett January 16th, 2009, 11:41 PM If I did sound for a living, the CMIT5u and the CMC641 would be the basis of my audio kit, period. CMIT5u is amazing, there are lots of samples I recorded with it in the article if you want to hear how it sounds.
A good old sales adage, "you will never regret buying the best."
I am seeing the CMIT5u on lots of features and television shows that I shoot on. Good stuff.
Dan
Bruce S. Yarock January 18th, 2009, 05:54 AM I've always had excellent results with my AT 897. I've used it for 4 years, in all kinds of situations, and it has never let me down.
Bruce Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)
Marco Leavitt January 19th, 2009, 10:29 PM CMIT5u is awesome, but I don't know if it's really directional enough to be your only shotgun. I worked on a feature in which the CMIT5u and the Sanken CS3e were both available, and I used the Sanken most of the time.
Guy Cochran January 22nd, 2009, 09:19 PM For the under $500 crowd: we pieced together the basics at and affordable price. It's the DVcreator Location Sound Package 1 (http://www.dvcreators.net/dvcreator-location-sound-package-1/). The package is based on the RODE NTG-2 shotgun. I find it amazing that for $20 more than the ole trusty $479 Sennheiser ME66 you get so much more- 10 year warranty on the NTG-2, 10' boom pole, long hair wind muff, shock mount and cables. Here is a quick sample of the RODE NTG-2 with a first time boom op outside our office YouTube - RODE NTG-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIlkAweOC_k) Can you get a better mic, boom pole, shock mount - yes, though for under $500, this is an ideal starter package that will produce good results. See "over $1000" level if you have the budget and demand the best.
Under $1000 budget: Sounds a bit better and you get that "dead air space" with the blimp
RODE NTG-3, RODE BLIMP, K-TEK KE110CC boom pole and cables $999! - we don't have this as an official package yet, I can whip one up though and give a "crazy deal" for dvinfo.net members if there is any interest. Here is a sample of the NTG-3 YouTube - RODE NTG-3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc6l4gT98X4)
I might also recommend a kind of universal mic - the Sony Stereo/Shotgun Sony Product Detail Page - ECM680S (http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-ECM680S/) ENG guys are diggin' it.
Over $1000:
Maybe look at getting a Sound Devices 302 mixer. For the shotgun mic, the Schoeps or Sanken mentioned above with Rycote and a carbon fiber pole. Listen to Dan's great tests and see which one you like. As I Hear It - Choosing the Right Microphone (http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/right_mic_brockett.html)
If you're in the middle of the $200-1000 range and have little audio experience. There is a DVD worth looking at before buying anything. $59.95 spent on a fun educational tutorial might actually be better than the over $1000 setup Amazon.com: Sound for Film and Television (http://www.amazon.com/Sound-Film-Television-Barry-Green/dp/B00194G1KY)
Hope this helps,
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