Rob Lohman
October 21st, 2002, 09:09 AM
What resolution did you scan them in and to what resolution
did you resize em? Did you use a high quality resample function?
did you resize em? Did you use a high quality resample function?
View Full Version : Adobe Premiere discussions from 2002 Rob Lohman October 21st, 2002, 09:09 AM What resolution did you scan them in and to what resolution did you resize em? Did you use a high quality resample function? Rob Lohman October 21st, 2002, 11:04 AM Well, this doesn't look too good. What Windows version are you running? Kernel32.dll is THE file for the Windows kernel (piece of code that is the base of an operating system -> very critical!) and it usually is not a good sign if you have problem with that. However, most kernel32.dll errors I've seen where under a Windows 9x (95,96,98,ME) which isn't suited for video work any- ways. I suggest going with Windows 2000 Professional (XP Prof. seems to be a bit unstable now and then with multimedia stuff). Other than that I suspect your system is full of garbage and might need a reinstall. There is also a (free) update to Premiere 6.01 on the Adobe site that might fix the problem (but I doubt that). Hope this will help some. Rob Lohman October 21st, 2002, 11:17 AM Well, I think any editor will allow you to do this. Otherwise they wouldn't be any good at all. The question really is what do you prefer and what tools do you need along the way. I suggest you try out as much demos of all the editors out there that you can get your hands on. A list of a few editors: - Adobe Premiere - Avid DV XPress - Pinnacle Edition - Vegas Video etc. etc. Richard Alvarez October 21st, 2002, 11:48 AM Shawn, I was the one who mentioned the "steep learning curve" about Avid. Yes, it's true if you are trained on Premiere already, it is kind of tough to "unlearn" your work flow. They just have a different approach. Don't let the potential to learn stop you from learning. Just go in with your eyes open. Having said that, and not knowing your budget. Premiere SOFTWARE is going to be much cheaper than the avid software. But if you throw in the hardware to get it up and running at top speed, it's going to come in pretty close. (Look at the cost of turnkey editing systems such as DVLine sells. Compare the Premeire/Matrox solutions to the Avid XPressDV solutions.) Doug Quance October 21st, 2002, 04:42 PM I have a quirky problem that I know one of you great talents must have an answer for: I am running Premiere 6.1, and have a short project assembled that I would like to do a voice-over while the project is playing. I can't seem to get an audio capture while the project plays. Locks it up. (Maybe I'm doing something wrong... who knows) I looked in the "no-help" help file.... nothing about voice-overs. I searched this site... nothing here. I have two options other than Premiere: Digitally record on another system, then import it into Premiere; OR render the project and import it into Vegas Video (which I believe I can do voice-overs... not sure, though). Any thoughts on how to keep this in Premiere? Thanks! Mark Moore October 21st, 2002, 05:10 PM I don't know if this helps or not - but I did a voice over for my first short film. I sat in my bedroom with my GL-1 and a good shotgun mic and taped myself. I then imported that tape into PREMIERE (6.0), unlocked the video/audio, deleted the video and had good quality voice over that I lined up in the desired position on the timeline. Without access to a studio, that was what worked for me! Doug Quance October 21st, 2002, 05:19 PM If I understand you correctly, you watched your project on your computer while you recorded your voiceover into the G-1, right? That's a work-around. I can record separately, though. I just tried starting the audio capture before starting the playback, and the program didn't stop until I touched the capture recorder (all I did was maximize it, and the program stopped playing) I'll go back and try again, but this may work. SammyLeopold October 21st, 2002, 07:58 PM Hi Rob, Thanks for responding! Well, as far as resolution, I am not sure as my scanner's software does not display dpi. But the original 5 X 6.75 inch picture came out to be 40x52 inches or 2868 pixels x 3888 pixels. Then I took it into Photoshop and resized it down to 5 x 6.75 inches. I figured that would improve the quality, since I am taking allot of pixes and squeezing them closer together into a smaller area? Like I said before when I open the picture in Premiere it looks great but once I insert it into and output the timeline it looks lousy! As far as whether or not I used a high quality resample function, probably not as I do not know what that is, is that a function of a scanner or Premiere? Thanks so much for your help! -SL Zac Stein October 21st, 2002, 09:11 PM but does it look lousy when outputted to a tv? or only in the crap timeline window? kermie snafu005 October 21st, 2002, 09:57 PM If I import a photoshop file (.psd) into premiere, the image quality should be at MAX correct? Are there any pros n cons to doing this? I hear so many people importing TIFFS and TARGA files... why not just leave them as PSD photoshop files? thanks! ;-) Robert Knecht Schmidt October 21st, 2002, 10:57 PM I'm not sure how Premiere's image processing algorithms work, but it could be that it doesn't antialias effectively when resizing images to fit the screen. The most sensible thing to do is to resize the still images to the appropriate size for your format (e.g. 640 x 480 or 720 x 480) with correct antialiasing; or, if motion effects are needed, use After Effects with antialiasing turned on. It might also be that Premiere has excellent antialiasing. But if you aren't satisfied with the still image results you get, this might be one thing to take into consideration. Rob Lohman October 22nd, 2002, 09:33 AM I think it would be better to go down this route: 1. just play your movie with something like Mediaplayer (as long as it isn't Premiere), mute the sound ! 2. Fire up an audio program and record line in. It might also be possible to use premiere in step 1 if you use a different audio recording program in step 2 (like cool edit, wavelab etc.). Rob Lohman October 22nd, 2002, 09:38 AM Sammy, When working with digital clips/photos etc. in your computer do it in PIXELS.. .not inches or DPI... An NTSC signal is 720x480, PAL is 720x576. So 2868x3888 is way too much. When you lower the resolution you are resampling your image. The quality is very dependent on which resampling function you are using. I'm not a Photoshop user (I use some smaller apps for my graphics work) but most Graphics packages tend to go for the better quality. But, resample your picture to 720x480 or 720x576 and e-mail it to me as an jpeg at visuar@iname.com and I'll take a look at it for you. Good luck. Richard Alvarez October 22nd, 2002, 11:37 AM All this work-around makes me appreciate the "Audio Punch-In" tool on Avid XpressDV. I did a film-noir short, shot in Super 8 film. Brought it into the system, did the vidual editing. Then laid in the music. Came time for the voice-overs, "Voila" easy-peasy. Also worked great for some "foley" work. Even if the sound effect was off a bit, I just moved it over on the time-line. Same with a piece of ADR. Brian M. Dickman October 22nd, 2002, 04:49 PM Vegas would do a fine job of this. Drop in the video (and audio track if you have one), add a new audio track, arm it for record, and record. The video and any non-muted audio tracks will play back while you record the new audio track. If you do have an existing audio track that you want to hear during narration, use headphones to avoid recording back a second copy of the existing track. This is one advantage to Vegas' legacy as a multi-track sound editor, very good audio tool support. You could even do this with Vegas LE, which supports 2 video tracks and 3 audio tracks. Doug Quance October 22nd, 2002, 05:13 PM Thank you, all: After all considerations, finishing the video portion of the project in Premiere and bringing it into Vegas for the voice-over seems to make the most sense. (Thanks, Brian) I could try to mess with Premiere (starting the audio recording first, then playing back the video for visual cues), but since I will not get the voice-over done in one single pass (more like several small chunks)... it seems to be a little too much hassle. Next time, I'll probably do the whole thing in Vegas... I just haven't had the chance to learn the program, yet. Thanks again for the input. You guys are great. Mark Moore October 22nd, 2002, 06:57 PM I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but it looks like you figured something out. I don't have an 'audio input' into my computer (that I know of), so I did not record a voice over directly into Premiere or directly into my computer. What I did was to take a blank tape, my GL-1, go to a nice quiet room, hook up a shotgun mic, turn on the camera and record - me reading the voice over. It was only about four minutes or so. I then took the footage and imported into Premiere, just as I would any other video footage, placed the footage on the timeline, unlinked the video from the audio and lay the audio track in the approrpriate place in the timeline. That way, using the same microphone as I used to record the short, I also used for the voice-over (though not recorded at the same time or in the same location). It is a "poor-man's" voice over, but it worked beautifully for me. Good luck. Doug Quance October 22nd, 2002, 10:12 PM Thanks, Mark: I rendered to project out and brought it into Vegas Video. I looked in the "no-help help" section, but got no help. I added an audio track, and armed it to record, set a destination... and voila! Real-time voice-over. I knew there was a reason I bought both Premiere and Vegas! Mark Moore October 23rd, 2002, 09:47 AM I haven't been too thrilled with Premiere's Help menu (I like that 'no help-help'!) either. I just thought it was lack of experience that made it difficult for me to use. Don Donatello October 23rd, 2002, 12:46 PM if i remember correctly .. when you bring in a STILL into a video editor the video editor must then get a outside READER to view the still which then slows down previews ... some editors have a built in jpeg or targa or tiff reader ... PSD files tend to be very large plus requires a outside reader = takes up processing time while editing .... Doug Quance October 25th, 2002, 10:37 AM Lack of experience makes everything seem difficult, at first. Even the Vegas Video tutorial whizzes through... only lightly touching an various subjects. It's almost like they're running a scam to get us to buy expensive tutorials to learn to use the software. I will give VV3 credit, though. The audio controls are pretty killer, and I am able to get it to do what I need it to. I think the thing that bugs me the most about the 'no-help help' sections of so many software programs is that even when they do cover the topic you need help with... the instructions often assume you know everything about their software... except the question you are asking. They'll start out with something like, "click on the XXX icon to do XXX". They often fail to tell you where you can find the XXX icon. Thank God for the Internet. Rick Reed October 26th, 2002, 03:40 PM Windows ME system. I've re-installed Windows ME. Didn't fix it. I'll try the adobe upgrade next. Thanks Rob. Rob Lohman October 28th, 2002, 03:04 AM Again I suggest you move to Windows 2000 Professional. That is much better for video work. I haven't heard of a lot of people that use Windows ME succesfully for the work we do. It might be a good thing to try and get a Windows 2000 Prof. copy some- where to try before you actually buy one ofcourse. It might also be that some hardware component is not 100% okay (like your memory chips. This can result in strange behaviour sometimes). Good luck. Jim Ioannidis October 29th, 2002, 09:29 PM Hey guys, I'm having a glitch with premiere 6.5 when I do some editing to clips. Ok, here is whats going on. I have a clip that I razor in half then I do a Frame Hold on the second half of the clip to change the frame rate. The problem is that when I play back the clip there is a glitch in there. When I play it back frame by frame and i get to the razor cut there will be 3 frames from the very beginning of the clip at the beginning of the second half of the clip. I've tried some things but i can't fix this. Anybody else ever experience this? thanx hamiltong October 30th, 2002, 09:17 AM I've recently gotten back into DV editing with my old Canon Elura. I currently use Adobe Premiere 6.X, Win XP / NTFS. I dropped this technology years ago because at the time the NLE packages seemed over my head - and things were relatively unstable. First question is: Elura 16x9 widescreen option. Is this a matted implementation or an electronic implementation? Second question: When capturing into Premiere do I need to do something special for 16x9? Third question: Progressive-Scan movie mode - when recording on the Elura in this mode do I need to change the capture settings in Premiere to ensure I'm capturing all the frames? I can only select 29.97 or 25 fps. I'm also wondering - if I want to create anomorphic DVD's - should I use Premiere to ouput the MPEG2 or simply save the DV (AVI) file uncompressed and use TMPEG to do the conversion? thx. -gh Rob Lohman October 30th, 2002, 09:38 AM I haven't done much in Premiere (6.5) yet, so I haven't seen this. But you might trying to look around the adobe site for support forums/email for this? Chris Hurd October 30th, 2002, 10:41 AM First question: it's an electronic implementation. I'll have to defer the other questions to those who know Premiere. papabryd November 1st, 2002, 06:34 PM I would like to know how to use keyframes in Premiere (v6.5) like in FCP3. In FCP you can start the effect from nothing and bring it upto whatever level you decide. So I could gradually shift from black and white back to color. Or from no emboss to emboss, or whatever. I'm not looking for a specific effect, just a way to go from no effect to effect across the board. I know some effects can be dialed down to the point where it is not noticeable but this isn't the case with all of them. Any insights? Thanks, jake Don Donatello November 3rd, 2002, 12:13 PM #! elura is squeezed 16x9 ... #2 if premiere is set up using OHCI 1394 then it only captures DATA from tape ... you will need to set up your premiere editing project as 16x9 to edit it ( so previews are 16x9 ) #3 if using OHCI 1394 only data is transferred - you just capture at standard NTSC 29.97 /PAL 25 settings ... remember each progressive frames are made of 2 FIELDS so to any NTSC/PAL editor it looks the same as interalce frames ( each made up of 2 fields) .. the only place you will see the difference is when you RENDER ( and that is only if you mix interlace clips with progressive - and that is if you render as progressive because the interlace clips wil now be changed to progressive ... NOTE that rendering progressive frames as interlace does NOT change them ( the 2 fields put together will still be a perfect match) don't know about the DVD Ed Smith November 4th, 2002, 10:16 AM 10 easy steps: 1. Load video onto timeline. 2. Apply desired affect. 3. On the arrow down next to the video track (video 2, 3 1a, 1b etc. Where you fade up and down video), select the diamond shape with a line through it. This now selects the key frames. 4. Move the time line to the place you want to start the effect (I.e. the beginning). 5. Tick the box which has two arrows pointing in opposite directions (below the video track name). 6. In the effects panel set effect to 0%. 7. Go to the end of the video and repeat step 5. 8. Repeat step 6 but set the effect to 100%. 9. If its not a real time effect it will need to be rendered. 10. You should now see the effect go from 0% - 100% of the clip i.e. If you have applied a blur, then the video image will be normal at beginning and then totally blurred out at the end. Hope this helps, hope it makes sense. All the best, Ed Smith Rob Lohman November 4th, 2002, 12:53 PM What a-lot of people somehow do not seem to know is this: When you hold down your left ALT key while scrubbing the timeline Premiere will render out your effects instantly (ofcourse how smooth this will go depends on CPU speed etc.). Ie, you can see effects and filters without rendering. papabryd November 4th, 2002, 03:50 PM Thanks for the tips guys. I had previously figured out how to do the keyframing steps as you have described here, but I'm still unsure of how to go from 0-100% with effects that have no controls, such as 'ghosting' or Radial Blur for example. While Radial blur has a slider, its minimum value is 1, which is enough to induce an effect. While there may be ways to reproduce these particular effects through other means in the keyframing fashion I would like, I am more interested in the general process that I could apply to all filters. Again, thanks for the responses guys. It's nice to have a supportive atmosphere when trying to learn these things. P.S. Thanks Rob, I did know of this feature, however it was good to mention it again for those who dont as it is a definate time saver. Andreas Fernbrant November 8th, 2002, 09:22 AM Hi, Have you guys/gals ever noticed (or at least for me) that the resoution when using premiere gets a bit bad after rendering out to file? It looks good in the premiere viewport but when I render it out it gets bad and looks "pixel like" Do you have any other programs you can recomend me? My capture card is a DV500 from pinnacle and premiere is the defult program, but I feel I should atleast give some other program a chance. I need a program that is better for exporting files for my computer (like mpeg1) I post all my short films on the net and on VHS, I want to take my quality up a notch... Robert Knecht Schmidt November 8th, 2002, 10:53 AM Well, the other front runner NLE software packages for the PC seem to be Vegas Video and Avid XPress DV. Ulead's Media Studio Pro is full featured but I'm unsure about its stability... my only experience with it is from several versions ago. Canopus also makes a great barebones editing package that comes with their hardware systems, it's very stable. Scott Silverman November 8th, 2002, 10:37 PM Andreas, I use Premiere also and I see that same "pixelation" your talking about. That is only because you are viewing it in premiere. Once you render and record it back to tape, you will see no difference from your original source (providing your camera and connection are all digital). That look is only from the way premiere chooses to compress their video when viewing. View it on TV or on a computer media program like Windows Media Player and you will find that you video looks much better. Hope this helps. Rob Lohman November 11th, 2002, 04:22 AM It also depends on what format/codec you exported it too. Andreas Fernbrant November 11th, 2002, 04:52 AM Ok, The problem is not the viewport in Premiere, It looks good there. When I export to an Uncompressed format (no compression what so ever) it get's bad. There are pixel options (like "1.0 Square pixels", "16x9" Pal DV") Maybe that has something to do with it? I admit to buying a better system than I can handle. But to my defence, I practice every day and learn new stuff. Only when i get stuck and can't find a solution I ask for help here. Thank you.. /Andreas Dave Manning November 14th, 2002, 09:56 AM Hi everyone...I'm new to the forum and new to Premiere. I'm using Premiere 6.02 running Windows XP home edition. The prob: every time I try to export a timeline, Premiere crashes. It doesn't happen immediately...when I attempted to export to CD-ROM it crashed after about 10 minutes or so of crunching. When I tried to export to tape, it crashed after 2 minutes. What's up? Help! Please forgive me...I've used Premiere's name in vain on multiple occassions. -----Dave. Rob Lohman November 14th, 2002, 10:06 AM I'm thinking mulitple things: 1. XP is not the most stable version for video work (yet). And Premiere 6.02 knows nothing about XP. Premiere 6.5 does. 2. What filesystem are you using (NTFS or FAT)? 3. Disk full? Out of memory? How much FREE harddisk space do you have on your C: drive? How much memory? Dave Manning November 14th, 2002, 10:37 AM Hi Rob. How do I find out what file system I'm using? I know that on my other desktop running Windows 98, it uses a FAT32 filesystem. As far as the disk, I have 26 GB remaining, and 640MB of RAM. Is there a fix for 6.02 to allow it to use XP? I WISH I would've known that. thanks----Dave. Keith Luken November 14th, 2002, 01:18 PM I am new to Premier 6.5 and I shoot on my GL2, but have a ZR45MC hooked to the computer to import. I have no problem capturing from the ZR45 in Vegas Video 3 or Pinnacle Studio 8, but when I try in Premiere it never starts the tape. I can hit play from Premiere as well as FF and REW, all work fine. Anyone else see this probelm? Thanks! Rob Lohman November 15th, 2002, 07:47 AM I'm NOT saying that 6.02 won't work on XP. I'm just saying that it was out when XP wasn't yet or not very long. If you right click on a drive in my computer it should tell you what file system is on it. How long do you have XP installed? Lots of other programs? Might even be a virus. Rob Lohman November 15th, 2002, 07:50 AM What do you have set under Edit -> Preferences -> Scratch Disks and Device control -> Device Control -> Options ??? Keith Luken November 15th, 2002, 04:03 PM I am using my Canon ZR45MC and have it set to: Video Standard: NTSC Device Brand: Generic Device Type: Standard Timecode Format: Drop-Frame Status: Online But I have tried Setting BRand and Type to Canon ZR25 and Canon Alternate 1. The FF and REW and PLAY work, but no matter what TYpe I pick it never captures when I click record Ed Smith November 16th, 2002, 10:15 AM What processor are you using, and what type of harddrive? Run a virus check, and if you can run a win doctor. Uninstall premiere, and then install again, that might work? Hope this helps, Ed Smith Dave Manning November 17th, 2002, 06:39 PM Tinkered for a while, and did a LOT of background reading. This is what I came up with: The video footage i was working with was originally Hi8 analog, converted by a Dazzle card. It converted the footage to MPEG-1. Apparently, Premiere doesn't really like that. When I imported my own miniDV footage, no problem whatsoever. Premiere seemed to like that previous analog/Dazzle/MPEG-1 when it was converted (in another program) to .AVI. Once exported to Premiere, no problem. And...I am happy to say that I didn't have to resort to brain surgery on the system of any kind. Thanks to everyone for the help and advice. This online community really is better than tech support! -----Dave. Rob Lohman November 19th, 2002, 09:39 AM Maybe stupid, but do you hit play before hitting record? That is what I must do to get it to work.... Rob Lohman November 19th, 2002, 09:58 AM Your welcome! Glad you found your problem. Try to tell people as much as possible about your system/problem. MPEG1 might have been a valuable clue. I more or less assumed it was DV material. Oh well.. Good luck! Keith Luken November 19th, 2002, 03:41 PM Tell me you are serious? Then Premiere is stupid none of my other Capture apps needs me to hit play, what a joke, but I'll try it! VV3 and Studio when you hit record they spin up the CAM. Well Premier is stupid! I hit play and it starts capturing! DAH! What bad implementation for such a pricey program. Also I noticed that when it is capturing I can't touch anything else or the captur stops. What stupidity form a high end app. Another strike against Premiere! I may be better off capturing in Studio and then use the captured AVI in Premiere. Rob Lohman November 20th, 2002, 02:21 AM It is indeed pretty silly, I agree. Glad that worked for you. Suddenly that idea popped in my head. I remembered have some difficulty myself upon first use. Heh. Cheers! |