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mbearden
September 26th, 2002, 12:59 PM
Mine has been doing this on and off since the upgrade to 6.5 but I thought it was because I occassionally make changes to the gain under "Clip, Audio Options, Audio Gain"

Either way, it seems broken. Any solutions?

Silver925
September 26th, 2002, 02:45 PM
I still always open and close the mixer...

wiredryoko
September 26th, 2002, 05:30 PM
Thanks for your help! I was able to achieve an adequate video roll using a combination of the "Shear" and "Roll" filters, and I did exactly what Robert suggested to make the countdown, which works nicely. Now I have one problem: I can't seem to find an "old movie" filter that adds the little line on the left of the screen, or dust and scratches. The filters that I'm finding only add monochrome noise, which I could do myself, and they don't make it look very realistic.

btw, I use Premiere 6.0

-Ryoko

James Emory
September 26th, 2002, 06:48 PM
Try going back into the filter pallet and choosing the Quick time filter and check its pallet. I don't know what it is or does but there is something in there about a line setting.

wiredryoko
September 26th, 2002, 07:38 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by wiredryoko : ...quicktime transitions, but I am unable to use them because I do not have a current version of quicktime installed (and to get a new one, you have to download it directly from the internet, and can't save and transfer the setup file. The other computer, the one that I edit on, is not hooked up to the internet). -->>>

wiredryoko
September 28th, 2002, 12:41 AM
Found the option to download the setup file from quicktime.com and tried out the Premiere effects. They seem....too fake, to be honest. Maybe too stark white or something, I don't know...still looking for other options. I found this page:

http://www.digieffects.com/frames/DEAW/AgedFilmTextInfo.html

I think they have a package that's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for, but it's $150, and the link for the demo download isn't working, so emailed them about that. Hopefully they'll fix the download soon, if the site's even still active at all...

-Ryoko

goldenfleece
September 28th, 2002, 02:22 AM
How do I create (I have Premiere 6 and after effects 5, but yet to install after effects 5 with Cinelook) the end of reel mark usually found on cinema reels, that 4 frame white circle in the right hand top corner that appears once at 10 seconds to end of reel (?) and then at 3 seconds is it? Is there an option for this anywhere in my software, or how would I do this manually.

Someone may have indicated this already somewhere in another thread, but how would I simulate film splices, ie the black line across 2 frames where transparent splicing tape would be? Could this be done in After Effects? And on that, how would I re-create the inevitable projector gate jump for 1 frame during the splice?

Trying to get a totally authentic look here.......

Yet to install CINELOOK and After Effects 5, but does this emulate things like film gate-weave, or this is to advanced for such a budget package?

Rob Lohman
September 30th, 2002, 10:41 AM
If you want to do this (and that is a big if, i can't see many
reasons why) you will need a seperate package like cinelook
or something. Check those products and their feature lists
to see if it offers what you want. In premiere there is a (too)
simple one... Right click in your footage bin and go down the
New menu and select Universal Counting Leader. Make sure
Cue Blip on Out is selected. Click ok. This will make a short
movie counting down and in the last couple of frames there
will be a circle in the upper right corner. You might be able
to mask this one out and put it over your footage.

It might be easier to just draw something in Photoshop though
and import that with a transparent layer or something...

Just some thoughts...

goldenfleece
October 1st, 2002, 12:05 PM
I cant work out how to capture individual clips in premiere. Using movie capture I get one huge avi file with many different scenes in. I cant find a sort into clips option anywhere....

In Windows Movie maker you can break up a whole avi file into individual clips automatically which I find very useful, and it has a full quality DV setting now I have the latest update for it.

How can I get premiere to auto capture each scene in this way so I can then swap things around later, etc, and avoid using Movie Maker altogether.

Probably a very simple answer here. Sometimes these things stare you in the face but you just cant see the wood for the trees, etc

Adam Lawrence
October 1st, 2002, 01:16 PM
Ive never heard of premiere doing such a method. I usually record
bars inbetween my scenes and capture the whole thing. then go and slice up the footage afterwards..How does movie maker achive this? how does it recognize each scene to place them individually in the timeline? If you find
something like this in Premiere, be sure to let me know..sounds like and
effective method.

goldenfleece
October 1st, 2002, 02:39 PM
Windows Movie maker in XP detects each individual camera shot based on the timecode, once you have recorded the whole capture as one avi file, it will then break it down into each component shot, each with sound. Very very useful feature, you can then trim and crop each clip, re-arrange them on the timeline and re-save the avi file to standard DV quality.

I found it invaluable and was stunned that premiere could not work out each individual camera shot and create clips in the same way. Each clip is displayed in a collection/project window with timecode, date, time of shot, etc and you can edit away just by dragging and dropping without comlex toolbars getting in the way. I love it. Thats about all Windows Movie Maker is good for though, nothing more advanced than that....but what a feature! Most people dont like Movie Maker but for pure simplicity its a breeze to use for basic editing.

Perhaps Vegas or Studio does something along these lines, don't know.

Rob Lohman
October 2nd, 2002, 01:25 AM
Premiere doesn't support this feature (yet). Will probably come
in the near future. There is also a free program out called
Scenelyzer that can do this for you. You can download that
program here:

http://scenalyzer.de/scenalyzer.zip

It will scan your AVI's and break them up. I capture in Premiere
and use this little program. They also have a product for which
you must pay that does it life whilst capturing. Haven't tried/
looked at that product yet, but they do have a demo available
at www.scenalyzer.com

Good luck.

wefdenver
October 2nd, 2002, 08:37 AM
Isn't this the batch capture option in Premier?

Rob Lohman
October 2nd, 2002, 10:48 AM
Might be indeed... Never looked at it myself. Not sure if batch
capture will do it "automatically" though.... Good one to try though!

goldenfleece
October 4th, 2002, 08:11 AM
Batch capture in premiere does not work automatically. Windows movie maker is much better at this for some reason.

It seems the best way to import lots of files and break them all up into clips for re-arranging the whole bunch at once. Very simple, except once this has been done and new .avi file made, you cannot then break it back into clips as it renders as one long file, with no timecode changes to break up the clips. What a pain....

Jim Ioannidis
October 6th, 2002, 11:25 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to flip
a clip in the timeline so that it plays backwards.

ie: if you tape someone falling of a chair onto the ground, how can you have the clip played backwards so that the person starts on the ground and jumps up back into the chair.

I've looked around Premiere and don't see a way to do it.
Can After Effects do it?

thanx guys.

Zac Stein
October 7th, 2002, 06:38 AM
in premiere right click on the video in the timeline, and change the speed to a minus value, -100% will normal time backwards, -50% will be slowmotion backwards and so on.


kermie

Jim Ioannidis
October 7th, 2002, 11:22 AM
COOOOOOL

I never even considered setting the speed to a negative number.

thanx alot

Rob Lohman
October 8th, 2002, 04:41 AM
Very cool trick indeed. I once found that out by accident. Sometimes
it can be very interesting to play a bit with variables!

SammyLeopold
October 11th, 2002, 08:50 PM
Hello All!

I really need some help, I am playing around with Premiere 6.0 and am having trouble with frames dropping out while capturing from my XL1. I have the XL selected as my device to be captured, and am using all other default settings. I really don't know much about this stuff as I am new to it all (better with betacam tapes! HA!) So I could really use some troubleshooting tips. Could lack of RAM be the problem? I only have 128 mb right now as I am awaiting delivery of (2) 256 chips. My Firewire card is the CompUSA store brand model, might that be the issue? Or is there some setting I need to adjust? Thanks in advance for your suggestions!

-SL

Peter Lock
October 12th, 2002, 05:34 AM
Are you capturing to a seperate drive, if so ensure all other applications such as virus monitors etc: are dissabled and defrag your drives.
Without a little more info on your system its shooting in the dark

Peter.

SammyLeopold
October 12th, 2002, 09:50 AM
I currently only have one HD in my PC it is a 40G drive with about 34G free. The drive is defraged and I am not running anti-virus software or any other programs in the background. The processor speed is 600Mhz, 128 mb of RAM, what else might you need to know? A friend of mine is running it fine with a 550 processor and 128mb of RAM which is why I don't think it is my PC, he thinks it has something to do with settings, but neither of us could figure it out? Thanks!

-SL

Peter Lock
October 12th, 2002, 10:13 AM
Sammy
Partition your hard drive, capturing video to a system drive is asking too much, you certainly could do with more Ram but I don't think its the problem.
Peter

Zac Stein
October 12th, 2002, 10:36 AM
what speed is the drive we are talking about?

5400rpm, 7200rpm?

the main problem with video systems is not raw mhz, or even proccessor speed, but with 600mhz you will struggle a lot, it is the i/o speeds.

The most likely problem is your drive simply can not write fast enough to capture at full framerate and dropping out.

sorry to say it, but seriously, if you want to edit a lot of stuff, not just occasionaly, an upgrade or new system would be in the works for you.

kermie

p.s but always make do with what you have.

Doug Quance
October 12th, 2002, 05:46 PM
I got Premiere with my Matrox card... which they bundled with Matrox Media Tools, which does the "scan and capture".

I don't know why Adobe didn't include this feature in their software... it's in very inexpensive editing programs like Ulead VideoStudio.

Perhaps it will be in an upcoming release...

SammyLeopold
October 12th, 2002, 06:09 PM
i think my HD is 7200, but I am not sure. How can I check? Also, how do I add a partition to my HD? So, you all seem to think it is NOT a settings problem but rather an equipment issue?
Thanks!
-SL

Jim Ioannidis
October 12th, 2002, 11:41 PM
Chances are it's probably HD related.

Just one suggestion that might help. One time it wasn't the HD for me.
When I capped footage I used to have the DV cam connected to both the computer and TV. So i could watch the footage on a big screen as i was capping it.

Well i started to drop frames like crazy one time and I checked everything. It turns out it was having the TV connected while capping that was the problem. I capped footage before with the TV in the loop with no problem but all of a sudden it didn't like it. So now I cap without the TV. Has anybody else ever had this problem??

Have you capped succesfully before??
If not then it's probably some setting related to your HD. Hard to say what to check because there is so much. Partitioning your HD won't really help much IMO because it's still the same drive cut into 2 pieces.

You could try a scandisk to make sure the disk is in good shape.

SammyLeopold
October 13th, 2002, 01:11 PM
OK, I check my documentation and found out the my HD is 7200rpm. I have never able to successfully capture video without this problem. I am not feeding out to a monitor, so that's not the problem. Scandisk said there are no errors (both quick scan and surface scan). I am really at a loss here. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!
-SL

Jim Ioannidis
October 13th, 2002, 03:21 PM
what version of Windows are you running.

I could suggest a couple things if you are running WIn2000

SammyLeopold
October 13th, 2002, 06:56 PM
Hey guys,

Thanks SO much for all of your help, input, and suggestions, but believe it or not, I discovered the answer to my dilemma! You know its amazing what you can find when you actually do some research on a problem! HA! The Adobe web site suggested that I activate DMA on my IDE chain. That has seemed to work so far, captured almost an hour's worth of video without 1 dropped frame! woo! hoo! I have to admit Adobe's web site suprised me, their online support pages are very good. I think that is the first time I have actually went to a company's web site for help, and they had a solution that actually worked! Regardless thanks again for the help! I am sure I will have more problems\questions in the near future!

-SL

Richard Alvarez
October 15th, 2002, 07:04 AM
Hey folks,

My primary editing system is AvidXpress DV, but I just acquired and old system from a buddy that has Premiere 5.1 on it. Can i do the upgrade to 6.5 for the $150 upgrade pack? Anyone do this yet?

Not in the studio right now, but I think it's an old Pentium 2. I might throw in another media drive, just want to know if I will be throwing good money after bad. My son wants to take it away to school.

Bill

Jim Ioannidis
October 15th, 2002, 04:45 PM
I'm pretty sure you can upgrade straight from 5.1 to 6.5 but you will need the 5.1 license to do the upgrade.

And i don't think a pentium 2 will be powerful enough.

Rob Lohman
October 16th, 2002, 12:48 PM
Whether or not it's powerful enough depends on what you do. I
have it running on a Celeron with not too much troubles. Don't
try to do too many wild things though....

Jim Ioannidis
October 16th, 2002, 07:33 PM
If Rob says it could work then I believe him.

But I don't consider what I do very wild stuff and thinking about trying this stuff on a P2 makes me cringe a little seeing how hard my P4 works.

snafu005
October 17th, 2002, 12:50 AM
OK.. this doesnt make sense to me...


through my XL-1's viewfinde and on tv (hooked to the XL-1), the movie looks fine but when i go to capture the footage into premiere, in the movie capture screen i see the corners of my wideangle lens..................... as well as a solid black line at the bottom of the screen?


is there something I can do to fix this?

TIA

Rob Lohman
October 17th, 2002, 09:04 AM
My experience is that most comes down to fast harddisks and
a clean system... more than CPU... Ofcourse that is my personal
observation / taste. Yours might differ. But hey, give it a try
and see.

Rob Lohman
October 17th, 2002, 09:22 AM
What you are seeing is the TV safe area. You do not see it on a
TV because it will not show this area, and when they build the
XL1 viewfinder they decided you shouldn't see it either (stupid).

You see it on the computer because the computer shows
EVERYTHING in the signal. If your output is for TV only you need
not bother about it. If you are also going down computer or
web you need to crop it out.

SammyLeopold
October 17th, 2002, 09:27 AM
Hello All,

I am trying to scan a picture into Premiere that is 5" wide x 6.75" high. But when I import it into Premiere it come out wider than high making it appear stretched out. What did I forget to do?

Thanks!

-SL

Zac Stein
October 17th, 2002, 10:03 AM
find the optiong to turn off 'maintain aspect ratio', should fix your problem.


kermie

Mike Rupp
October 17th, 2002, 10:23 AM
I did this recently and was glad to see the improved tools, faster editing, better titling that 6.5 provides. I'm not in front of my video library, but I think you may need a fairly fast CPU as a minimum for 6.5. -maybe check the literature at videoguys,com. Mike

snafu005
October 18th, 2002, 02:07 AM
thank u!
guess I'll hafta crop :(

snafu005
October 18th, 2002, 02:10 AM
Today I noticed that all of my footage captured in premiere 6.5 is too bright. Much brighter than when the miniDV tape is viewed on TV played throug my XL1s

Is this a common problem? Should I just darken everything?

TIA1 =-)

Chris Hurd
October 18th, 2002, 04:37 AM
Are you viewing this video on a computer monitor, or an external video monitor/television set? If you're just looking at it on a computer monitor, that's probably where the discrepancy lies. Always port the video out to an external video monitor, even if it's just a cheap television set, as it'll show you what the video really looks like.

Ed Smith
October 18th, 2002, 12:01 PM
Right click the picture on the timeline> go to video options>> then select maintain aspect ratio.

You can also select what could you would like to be in the 'spaces'

Right click picture on the timeline> goto video options>> then select aspect fill colour>>> choose your colour>>>> select OK

Hope this helps,

Ed Smith

Richard Alvarez
October 18th, 2002, 12:07 PM
Thanks guys, it's a P3...

I was mostly worried if it would upgrade from 5.1 The buddy I bought the system from, is still "looking" for all his paperwork. I got the whole thing from him for 200 bucks, to send off with the kid. I am thinking it won't go up to 6.5. No sweat, I just didn't want to throw good money after bad... (Well, not bad really... pretty good for an old system.)

Adrian Douglas
October 18th, 2002, 09:53 PM
Like Rob said, it mainly comes down to fast harddrives. Even a PII will play video smoothly in Premiere if you have a fast disk. Render times will be long but you will have no trouble playing video smoothly

SammyLeopold
October 18th, 2002, 10:05 PM
Thanks guys, worked beautifully! Here is the next problem the pictures are still coming out fuzzy. I scanned them in at the highest reolution Premiere could handle and then used Photoshop to resize them down to the size I needed. When I open them up in the bin they look great but when I export my timeline to video they look all fuzzy. Any thoughts from anyone?
Thanks!

-SL

Doug Quance
October 18th, 2002, 10:28 PM
Might be a square vs rectangular pixel issue.

To quote Josh Bass:

"Everything I've just written is probably wrong"

Rick Reed
October 20th, 2002, 03:05 PM
Can't open Adobe Premiere 6.0. Getting "has caused error in Kernel32.dll, will now close". Anybody got common fixes for this?

Shawn McBee
October 21st, 2002, 03:48 AM
I'm getting ready to put together a dedicated DV editing system (PC) and I was going to build with Avid XPressDV in mind, but I have read on this board that it has a very steep learning curve. So my question is: Does premiere have what it takes to edit and process a feature-length DV project and output it with minimal compression?

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
Shawn