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Guy Cochran
December 23rd, 2008, 01:04 PM
There is are a few new monitors coming out soon with HDSDI and HDMI inputs at a great price point. Currently, you can pick up the analog version the Marshall Electronics -- V-LCD70P-HDA / V-LCD70P-HDSDI / V-LCD70P-HDMI (http://lcdracks.com/monitors/v-lcd70p-hda.html) today - I just ordered one to test out against the IKAN V8000HDMI, which is what I currently use. Both the IKAN and the new Marshall weigh 1.3lbs..hmmm.

The analog version of the Marshall called the V-LCD-70P-HDA has component as well as composite inputs, the cool thing about all these new monitors is the powering options. You can pick what battery type you use ie Canon, Sony, Panasonic or Anton Bauer / IDX. IKAN is also offering the same thing with the new version of the V8000HD called the V8000HDMI. http://www.ikancorp.com/pages/monitors/V8000hdmi/index.htm

On the Marshall 7", there is also a still store function and peaking. Something the IKAN does not appear to have. I can also appreciate the big rotating knobs on the front of the Marshall for instantly grabbing onto and changing brightness, contrast, tint and color. You have dig into the menu on the IKAN to get to those.

Hopefully this gives the $2200 Panasonic | BT-LH80WU 7.9" Multi-Format Color | BT-LH80WU (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574347-REG/Panasonic_BT_LH80WU_BT_LH80WU_7_9_Multi_Format_Color.html) HDSDI monitor some competition. I've found that focusing with a larger LCD makes shooting HD so much easier and is great when you want to show a client the take.

Bruce S. Yarock
December 24th, 2008, 07:48 PM
Guy,
I'm shooting with a Canon H1 and A1, both normal hdv and with a Letus 35mm adaptor. I'm currently using a Varizoom Switt, which I've had for over a year. My 60 year old eyes need all the help they can get, and I'm considering getting something better. The main help I need is for focus. Can you suggest anything better in that size, hd, for under 2k?
Thanks
Bruce S. Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Guy Cochran
December 26th, 2008, 01:34 AM
Hi Bruce,

Besides going up to a 10" or larger, for "all the help you can get" focusing I think the Panasonic is still the reigning champ at $2k+. It has 2 features that you pay dearly for, pixel-to-pixel and focus-in-red functions.
You're kind of at a crossroads with both of those cameras since one would be HDSDI and the other HDMI.
I'd try to stick with digital inputs if you can, the analog component HD monitors tend to be less crisp. If I were shooting where there was lots of set-up time, I'd just go to the larger display.

Good luck,

Bruce S. Yarock
December 26th, 2008, 02:49 AM
Guy,
Thanks for the info. After I read your post, I looked at the back of the swit monitor and realized that there is a bnc in. Would I get better resolution on that monitor by going out of the hd/sdi ion the H1 into the bnc as opposed to the component cable connecrion?
I also have a Gateway 26" hd monitor, that I've used on a couple of shoots where I had set up time and space. You're right...larger makes focus easier.
The Panasonic you refer to- is that the same one you mention in your first post? does it have only one input (hd/sdi)? What about it makes focusing easier?
thanks
Bruce S. Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

David Hodge
December 26th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Hi Bruce,

Besides going up to a 10" or larger, for "all the help you can get" focusing I think the Panasonic is still the reigning champ at $2k+. It has 2 features that you pay dearly for, pixel-to-pixel and focus-in-red functions.
You're kind of at a crossroads with both of those cameras since one would be HDSDI and the other HDMI.
I'd try to stick with digital inputs if you can, the analog component HD monitors tend to be less crisp. If I were shooting where there was lots of set-up time, I'd just go to the larger display.

Good luck,

Bruce,
If you would be considering spending a bit over $2k then I have just found a larger monitor that might be just right for you.

The monitor I speak of is manufactured in China, but the company sells to US Customers out of Georgia. Their product line starts at a 17" monitor, and then a 21" monitor and up from there. They are compatible with composite, component, SD, and HD-SDI, etc. Seperates audio signal out of the HD-SDI and the like. It has onboard waveform and vector scope, blue only, AC/DC 12v operation, 120hz, and more.

17" runs about $2499, and the 21" is $2999. This beats Sony with their 23" monitor at a whopping $15K for full HD resolution with HD-SDI. All due respect to Guy, but even the 17" monitor is double the size for $200 more than the on camera monitor from Panasonic.

These monitors have DVI connections so that you may connect your MAC/MACBOOK PRO to it if you have one both in the studio and out on location. There are other connections as well for control and for a monitor tally light if you wish to use it. All kinds of features. If You have HDMI devices you can get a connector at Circuit City even that turns HDMI TO DVI for about $35.

I will be purchasing a 21" model for myself. (I will be using it with the HD-SDI out from my Sony XDCAM EX1, as well as using it for on green/blue screen work in a remote location. Neat location monitor for editing and showing crew, actors and clients progress on the spot.) It is the largest monitor I've seen with full hd and the rest for less than some of those on camera monitors. And most of those are not full hd res.

The company is FSI. You may find their on-line store at Flanders Scientific, Inc. - Top Quality Broadcast & Post Production Equipment. (http://www.shopfsi.com)


If anyone has experience with this company please let me know. I would love feedback from an owner despite the rock solid appearance of the company and product.

Might a product such as this work for the eyes, the work, and the wallet?

Bruce S. Yarock
December 26th, 2008, 09:43 AM
Thanks, david. I'll check them out. I was more interested in something which I could use on camera, similar in size to the Swit, but with better resolution. the 26" gateway I have, although not too expensive, is really helpfull for focus.
Bruce yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

David Hodge
December 26th, 2008, 09:57 AM
Thanks, david. I'll check them out. I was more interested in something which I could use on camera, similar in size to the Swit, but with better resolution. the 26" gateway I have, although not too expensive, is really helpfull for focus.
Bruce yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Oh, okay. Good hunting.

Ever hear of FSI?

Bruce S. Yarock
December 26th, 2008, 10:06 AM
No,
But i'll check them out next week.
Bruce Yarock

Guy Cochran
December 26th, 2008, 10:22 AM
Guy,
Thanks for the info. After I read your post, I looked at the back of the swit monitor and realized that there is a bnc in. Would I get better resolution on that monitor by going out of the hd/sdi ion the H1 into the bnc as opposed to the component cable connecrion?
I also have a Gateway 26" hd monitor, that I've used on a couple of shoots where I had set up time and space. You're right...larger makes focus easier.
The Panasonic you refer to- is that the same one you mention in your first post? does it have only one input (hd/sdi)? What about it makes focusing easier?
thanks
Bruce S. Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

The Swit has analog component input. HDSDI and HDMI are pure digital - no loss. The new Marshall that I'm getting is the analog version because, like you, we have a few different cameras and they all output component so in our case we're initially going with the analog model. Now say I just had a Sony Z7U with HDMI out, I would go with the HDMI model. If I had an H1 - only - I would go with the HDSDI version. The HDSDI version is sweet because you only have one BNC cable, on our Sony S270, it actually has 3 cables for component - ack!

The "pixel to pixel" of Panasonic basically zooms into the native resolution. So you're seeing a smaller 1:1 portion of the frame without scaling artifacts. That's one of the reasons the larger displays are tack sharp, they can do full 1920x1080 without scaling because they are so big. The focus in red I haven't seen in person on the Panasonic 7.9", but I'd imagine it is like "peaking" that lights up red when you hit perfect focus.

The big deal about these new monitors from IKAN and Marshall is the powering option. They can use these lightweight batteries instead of relying solely on pro, expensive and heavy Anton bauer or V-mount "bricks" thus making easy to toss them on a Noga arm to get the angle you want. They're clearly aiming these monitors at the prosumer market, Sony Z7U owners, A1's, HVX200's, HPX170's etc. I'm just happy to finally see them coming to fruition. A few years ago, I used to hate recommending a Marshall 7" for all the HVX200/RedRock guys because I had to have them sit down when I showed them the powering options. Times are a changin' - for the good!

Bruce S. Yarock
December 26th, 2008, 10:35 AM
Guy,
Should the bnc in on the Swit be better quality than the component, assuming I go out of the bnc hd/sdi from the H1?
Is there a mnodel that lets you use component in (like from the A1) or hd/sdi in from the H1?
thanks again for the help.
Bruce S, yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Bruce S. Yarock
December 26th, 2008, 10:40 AM
Guy,
I just took another look at the Marshall you mentioned. It looks like a good deal for $1000! It comes with either hd/sdi or hdmi, not both- correct? Would it be a dramatic improvement over the swit for focus purposes?
Bruce Yarock

Guy Cochran
December 26th, 2008, 11:25 AM
The Swit is analog component only - no HDSDI. If you connect a BNC cable with an HDSDI signal nothing will appear.

Yes, the new Marshall comes in 3 distinct models

- HDMI
- HDSDI
- Analog Component

Over the Swit and IKAN, with the new Marshall you get -

-Peaking
-Blue only mode
-Better signal processing (analog model) 10-bit processing with 4x oversampling and adaptive 5-line comb filter
-After reading deeper in the manual there is a 1:1 Pixel mode on the Marshall - this thing is going to kick ass!

"This mode bypasses the monitor’s internal scaling function and displays incoming images in their native resolution and
aspect ratio, with a one-to-one mapping:

• For incoming formats smaller than the native resolution of the LCD panel (800 x 480), the image will be displayed
in the center of the screen using only the necessary LCD pixels. For example, NTSC images will occupy exactly
720 x 480 pixels. The surrounding pixels will be black.

• For incoming formats exceeding 800 x 480 pixels, only the center 800 x 480 of the incoming image will displayed
occupying the whole screen, with the remainder of the picture cropped. For example, 1080i formats will both be
cropped to 800 x 480 and displayed full-screen. "


Also included in the manual is the steps to Color Calibrate:

"Use the following procedure when calibrating the monitor to SMPTE color bars with the following procedure:

1. Allow the monitor to warm up for at least 5-10 minutes.

2. Display SMPTE split-field color bars on the monitor using an external source.

3. Enable Monochrome mode.

4. Locate the pluge pattern (super black, black, and gray bars) at the lower-right corner of the screen. Adjust the Brightness knob until
there is no visible difference between the super black and black bars, but the gray bar is still visible.

5. Adjust the Contrast knob until an even grayscale appears along the top bars.

6. Disable Monochrome mode.

7. Enable Blue Check Field mode and adjust the Color knob so that the outermost bars (white and blue) appear to match in brightness.

8. Composite NTSC only: Adjust the Tint knob until the third bar from the left (cyan) and the third bar from the right (magenta) appear to
match in brightness.

9. Disable Blue Check Field mode. "

I will be getting mine in the next day or two and will put up some stills or a video.

Guy Cochran
December 26th, 2008, 11:36 AM
Man, I'm even more excited now! The Peaking is Red - this thing is going head to head with the Panasonic at $1000 off and better powering options!

From manual :

"Peaking Filter (Focus assist)
The Peaking Filter is used to aid the camera operator in obtaining the sharpest possible picture. When activated, all color will be removed from the display and a black-and-white image will remain. The internal processor will display RED color on the screen where sharp edges appear. When the camera operator adjusts (racks) the focus control (on
the camera lens), different parts of the image will have RED colored edges. This indicates that that portion of the image is sharp – or in focus. Final focus is achieved by racking the camera lens focus control back and forth until the desired portion of the image has RED colored edges. Please note that this feature is most effective when the subject is
properly exposed and contains enough contrast to be processed."

Here is a copy of the Marshall V-LCD70P-HDA instruction manual:
http://dvestore.com/images/V-LCD70P-HDA.pdf

Guy Cochran
December 30th, 2008, 06:27 PM
Just got our Marshall V-LCD70P-HDA in. Here are a few pix. It's even cooler than I ever imagined!

There are 4 one touch user Presets with buttons F1-F4 right on the front. I have mine set for:

F1- Peaking
F2- Markers
F3- Pixel to Pixel
F4- Freeze Frame

In the pictures below, you'll notice one that is a close up. This is demonstrating pixel to pixel mode with the same framing as the previous pic.

The build quality is very nice - metal around the front and a solid plastic on the rear. Yet, it doesn't feel heavy and weighs just 1.3lbs. The color controls in the menu allow for serious tweaking with not just the brightness, color, tint and contrast with the knobs on the front, but you can go into RGB Bias and Gain for each color channel - Red, Green and Blue. Plus you can feed bars in from your camera and turn on Red, Blue, Green or Mono (B&W) and really calibrate. The Marshall V-LCD70P-HDA is a pro piece of gear.
Starting at $949 for the Sony, Panasonic and Canon versions and $999 for Anton Bauer and IDX versions. Plus, you can use your dvinfo.net 5% coupon. Marshall Electronics 7″ LCD Monitor at DVcreators.net (http://www.dvcreators.net/marshall-electronics-7-lcd-monitor/)

Gints Klimanis
January 1st, 2009, 03:58 PM
Very nice, Mr. Cochran. If you're working with Marshall, please suggest a Zoom function that can be repositioned, say with the four menu buttons. A picture in picture of (small rectangle=full screen) would be useful well. The peaking function shown in your image is the most advanced I've seen.

Bruce S. Yarock
January 1st, 2009, 04:02 PM
Guy,
Is the model that would accept hd/sdi from my Canon H1 available yet?
Thanks
Bruce yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Bob Hart
January 1st, 2009, 09:31 PM
Bruce.


If you eyes are shot like mine and you do any live gigs with your camera, you may find it helpful in the meantime to use a Palsonic LCD TV. TFTV5539DT or something like it. This is the PAL model. There may be a different model for NTSC land or it may have been OEM'ed as another brand entirely.

This is not a proper camera monitor just a consumer TV.

It does "NOT" have HDSDI-in.
It does have HDMI-in.
It has component-in.
It has composite-in
Power is by small power converter from mains to 12VDC which means alternative sources like 12VDC batteries are viable.
It has an inbuilt SD DVD player.

I find it helpful because I can sit it off a short safe distance so that I am not dragging close-up glasses off and on my head. I still use the camera LCD for framing and follows of a dynamic subject but reference the TV for critical focus and deliberate moves.

If you are a wing camera one side or another of a stage and all cameras are winging it and not co-ordinated, the large screen can be helpful for your opposite camera operator to know what you are doing and match your framing.

It does not provide a true representation of aspect ratio. All are slightly vertically stretched.

Any big TV is a mongrel to cart about as it has to be reboxed.

Bruce S. Yarock
January 2nd, 2009, 12:30 AM
Bob,
I have a gateway 26" 1080p monitor, which I use when there's set up time and space available. I was thinking about something to use on camera (or stand), or jib, which would help me for critical focus. Since I have the hd/sdi out on the Csnon H1, I thought that might give me a better image than my varizoom swit, and help with color and focus. I also like the idea of the peaking function on the Marshall mentioned, which the swit doesn't have.
Bruce yarock

Guy Cochran
January 2nd, 2009, 07:15 PM
Guy,
Is the model that would accept hd/sdi from my Canon H1 available yet?
Thanks
Bruce yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

HDSDI model is shipping in Feb. 09

Only the analog component HD model is shipping today.

Get one if you need it today. Otherwise, I think it's worth the wait.

BTW, I spoke with a customer this morning that shoots a ton of stuff worldwide for PBS. He uses the 8" Panasonic and reminded me of one more feature that you pay for on the Panasonic - it has built-in waveform. He did say that he would rather of bought the Marshall had it been out in '07.

Guy Cochran
January 4th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Geekin' out. I just had to open them up :)

Okay so both the Marshall and the IKAN have the BNC connectors soldered to the circuit board. So be gentle when pulling on those cables! Notice how the IKAN has HDMI as well as S-Video inputs.

I did like that the Marshall has a bit better build on the 1/4" thread on the bottom. It's reinforced with a better design.

James Chen
January 7th, 2009, 12:43 PM
HDSDI model is shipping in Feb. 09


Any idea how much more the HDSDI model will cost?

Paul Mailath
January 7th, 2009, 05:20 PM
I find it helpful because I can sit it off a short safe distance so that I am not dragging close-up glasses off and on my head. I still use the camera LCD for framing and follows of a dynamic subject but reference the TV for critical focus and deliberate moves.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one, I'm resorting to close up glasses or a 15" HDTV - both are a pain

Bruce S. Yarock
January 7th, 2009, 05:37 PM
Guy (or anyone else who knows the answer)-
is there any difference in resolution and quality between the hdmi version and the hd/sdi version comming out in february? Both of my canons (h1 and a1) have that component output which i guess is called 'hdmi", correct? If the quality on the hdmi version and the one comming out in feb. is the same, then I'm better off with the one I can use with both cameras. But if the hd/sdi will give me better resolution and crisper focus, then i'll get the hd/sdi version for my h1, and keep the varizoom swit for my a1.
Btw, guy...whichever i get i'll buy from you, given your help on th3ese forums.
Thanks
Bruce yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Guy Cochran
January 13th, 2009, 02:06 AM
Any idea how much more the HDSDI model will cost?

Our contact at Marshall says that we're still waiting on pricing for HDSDI model.

Guy Cochran
January 13th, 2009, 02:10 AM
Guy (or anyone else who knows the answer)-
is there any difference in resolution and quality between the hdmi version and the hd/sdi version comming out in february? Both of my canons (h1 and a1) have that component output which i guess is called 'hdmi", correct? If the quality on the hdmi version and the one comming out in feb. is the same, then I'm better off with the one I can use with both cameras. But if the hd/sdi will give me better resolution and crisper focus, then i'll get the hd/sdi version for my h1, and keep the varizoom swit for my a1.
Btw, guy...whichever i get i'll buy from you, given your help on th3ese forums.
Thanks
Bruce yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Thanks Bruce. I appreciate that.
Component requires 3 analog connections, the connectors are usually Red, Green and Blue.
HDMI is pure digital with just one connection.
Here is a vid I produced awhile back that may help...or confuse :0 HD Monitoring from an NLE on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/796203)
It's tough to gauge the quality difference between an HDMI and a Component connection on an 8" display - I'd say 10-20% improvement to the human eye.

Bruce S. Yarock
January 13th, 2009, 03:57 AM
Guy,
The hdv output of both the Canon H1 and A1 is a plug that has the three component cables on the other end. So therefore, the only monitor that will work for both cameras is one that accepts component (eg. the switt which I have). The new hd/sdi from Marshall will only work on the H1. If it's 20% crisper, it will be worth it.
Thanks
Bruce yarock

Guy Cochran
January 14th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Any idea how much more the HDSDI model will cost?

Fresh in.

Marshall V-LCD70P-3GSDI 7" on Camera monitor with Composite, Component, 3GHD/SDI inputs and Canon, JVC, Sony or Panasonic Battery Mount - List price $1299

Marshall V-LCD70P-HDMI-CM 7" on Camera monitor with Composite, Component, HDMI inputs and Canon, JVC, Sony or Panasonic Battery Mount - List price $1099

Add $100 for V-Mount or Anton Bauer plate.

HDMI version shipping beginning of March
HDSDI version shipping end of March

I will have a pre-production model to test in the next few weeks and will post additional photos or a video of a hot model demonstrating "peaking" and "false color" - false color is going to blow you away. Once you learn how to read it, you can gauge your exposure by seeing where elements of your frame may be over or under exposed. If you grew up as a photographer and understand the zones system, it will make sense quick. You can even see if skin tones are properly exposed - instantly at the touch of button - see the attached pdf for more info.

Alvise Tedesco
February 16th, 2009, 09:29 AM
Anybody used already the new 4.8' (800x480) Swit?
It's a long time I'm waiting for something lighter and smaller than my 7' HDA for use shoulder mounted adapter+camera rig.

http://swit-battery.com/swit2006/english/productdetail.asp

Cheers

Adrian Price
March 18th, 2009, 04:01 AM
Hey All

Looking at getting one of the new Marshall monitors for use with an EX3, and just checking battery specs. this Marshall on B&H details using a Sony BP-460?

OK so living under a rock, but is this a typo or can someone point me in the direction of where to find said battery?

I don't really want to have to buy a new battery system just for the monitor so if this isn't compatible with the EX BP-U30 or BP-U60, has anyone had any experience using these with the L series batteries??

Guy Cochran
March 18th, 2009, 08:21 AM
The HDA (Component and Composite) Model is now shipping
The HDMI is also now shipping
The HDSDI Model is pushed to May.
For an EX3, I would wait for the HDSDI.

I'm using mine with a slim line Sony battery that weighs 4 oz. The monitor weighs 1lb 8oz. It's a light package overall. A little much for a Canon 5D Mark II, for that camera I like the new little IKAN 5.6" HDMI. The Marshall 7" is right at home on an HVX200/Z7U/XHA1 sized camera. The camera you'll see me using it on is the Sony S270U.

YES!!! I finally got the Video (http://www.dvcreators.net/how-to-calibrate-an-ntsc-monitor/) done so you can see the Marshall monitor in action. It was more of a challenge to shoot a monitor than I thought. You get a lot of moire.

At the end of the video you can see the Sony L series battery powering the unit and exactly how slim it is. I have a limited number of these Sony batteries and chargers that I can include for free if anyone from DVinfo mentions it in the comments field of their order.

Alex Kanakis
March 18th, 2009, 02:22 PM
Guy-

I've been waiting for the Marshall SDI version for my EX1. It's been pushed back to the end of May, but I really need something now. Do you think I should still wait for the SDI or go with the HDA version? Will it make that much of a difference?

Thanks,
Alex

Justin Carlson
March 25th, 2009, 10:06 AM
I'm also waiting for the SDI version for my EX1. Do you know if it can be powered using a Bebo Coco-EX and a p-tap cable? I'm just worried whether or not the Sony battery will be able to power the camera & the monitor at the same time... and for how long?



Bebob: Coco-EX
Bebob Engineering | COCO-EX1 Battery Adapter | COCO-EX1 | B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=workaround.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=544474&is=REG)

Switronix Power-Tap to 4-Pin XLR
Switronix | PTXLR 28" Power-Tap to 4-Pin XLR Cable | PT XLR (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=workaround.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=341340&is=REG)

Guy Cochran
March 25th, 2009, 11:00 AM
Guy-

I've been waiting for the Marshall SDI version for my EX1. It's been pushed back to the end of May, but I really need something now. Do you think I should still wait for the SDI or go with the HDA version? Will it make that much of a difference?

Thanks,
Alex

If you need it now, just get the HDA model and use component. Sony includes the cable in the EX1 box so it is a nicely bundled single cable right?
The difference between analog component and digital is only about 10% in real world viewing on a 7" display. However, being able to use a monitor today will improve your focusing and your color remarkably.

Guy Cochran
March 25th, 2009, 11:05 AM
I'm also waiting for the SDI version for my EX1. Do you know if it can be powered using a Bebo Coco-EX and a p-tap cable? I'm just worried whether or not the Sony battery will be able to power the camera & the monitor at the same time... and for how long?



Bebob: Coco-EX
Bebob Engineering | COCO-EX1 Battery Adapter | COCO-EX1 | B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=workaround.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=544474&is=REG)

Switronix Power-Tap to 4-Pin XLR
Switronix | PTXLR 28" Power-Tap to 4-Pin XLR Cable | PT XLR (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=workaround.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=341340&is=REG)

The monitor has a 4-pin XLR input 12V @ 3.3A - I don't see why the above solution would not power the Marshall.

Justin Carlson
March 25th, 2009, 03:15 PM
That's great. So now I just have to sit and wait patiently... which is never my strong suit.

Justin Carlson
April 7th, 2009, 09:44 AM
I just got an email from Robert Foster (Director of Sales @ Marshall) and he told me that the SDI version will be out at the end of May.
Is it really worth waiting for a SDI version or would the component be fine with my EX1?

Anthony Lovell
April 7th, 2009, 02:06 PM
I just got an email from Robert Foster (Director of Sales @ Marshall) and he told me that the SDI version will be out at the end of May.
Is it really worth waiting for a SDI version or would the component be fine with my EX1?

I asked the precise same question in another thread (on 2 low-cost monitors) and got this response, which I am not sure I totally grok:


At the "less than" 1080p resolution you won't be giving up much in terms of "sharpness" but you will see less contrast..... in theory.

but... as the contrast ratio and brightness of all of these small monitors is poor it, it probably does not make a difference other than the convenience and professional look of a single sdi bnc connector.

Guy Cochran
April 7th, 2009, 02:22 PM
I just got an email from Robert Foster (Director of Sales @ Marshall) and he told me that the SDI version will be out at the end of May.
Is it really worth waiting for a SDI version or would the component be fine with my EX1?

Hi Justin,

Greetings from Washington State. You're just right over the border from us. If you plan on passing through down to Seattle, I have the HDMI/component version of the Marshall here for testing and in stock. Let me know if you have time to come down this way, it's a nice drive this time of year. Gorgeous out today. I'd be more than happy to let you take it out for the day attached to your EX1.
I'd say get the component version if you need it now. You'll be impressed. Just the red peaking function alone makes this monitor a valuable tool for HD work.

Justin Carlson
April 7th, 2009, 02:56 PM
Sounds great!
I'm down in Seattle about every 7 weeks or so as my wife likes to go shopping in Bellevue. Next time I'm down, I'll definitely stop by and check out the Marshall.
Thanks!

Sean Seah
April 26th, 2009, 08:41 PM
the peaking sounds cool. Will it work for 5D2? It has no onboard peaking function so focusing is a PIA...

Justin Carlson
April 27th, 2009, 08:39 AM
I must say even though the marshall has so many unique functions, I'm very tempted by the 720p of the Smallhd.com monitor. And at that price, I'm starting to lean more that way.

Matti Poutanen
May 7th, 2009, 01:42 PM
A quick question about the battery options: is the Sony B series battery the same one that EX3 uses?

Justin Carlson
May 7th, 2009, 01:43 PM
Yes it is, they're the same batteries at the EX1 too.

Matti Poutanen
May 19th, 2009, 03:58 AM
The monitor has a 4-pin XLR input 12V @ 3.3A - I don't see why the above solution would not power the Marshall.

Just checking: The Marshall monitor has 12v input. The Coco Battery adapter outputs 14.4v (according to B&H website). Will the monitor work okay anyway?

James Huenergardt
May 20th, 2009, 08:49 AM
For those of you thinking about getting the non-SDI version of the Marshall monitor and you have an EX1 or similar SDI camera, WAIT!

I own an EX1 and a TV Logic monitor with SDI and it's such a breeze to connect using the BNC on the back of the camera and NOT have to fuss with the horrible placement and small hookup for the Component.

Also, you get audio out of the SDI and it's a more robust connection that's locked and won't fall out, AND, you have only one cable to run, so if you're using your camera on a crane/jib, it's a breeze once again to connect.

Just my 2-cents on the matter.

Giroud Francois
May 20th, 2009, 10:49 AM
It is a lot better to use a SDI to HDMI converter because you can use it on ANY monitor with HDMI input (almost all recent screen of any size on the market today, including some PC monitors).

The cost of such adapter is not so high (i got mine form blackmagic) and you do not need to care about the monitor. If the adapter is in the bag, you can be pretty so you will find a screen.

And you can use the converter for other purposes. Like outputting live HD-SDI to you intensity capture card (HDMI input). And if you often get the need to transport hi-def on long distance, you purchase another converter (HDV to SDI or HDMI to SDI) so you can connect a HDMI player on a HDMI video projector with a simple coax cable.

Guy Cochran
June 16th, 2009, 03:27 PM
Update, the Marshall HDSDI 7" monitors are now shipping. Marshall Electronics 7″ LCD Monitor at DVcreators.net (http://www.dvcreators.net/marshall-electronics-7-lcd-monitor/) We have them in stock for Canon, JVC, Panasonic, Sony L series and B series battery mounts.

The single HDSDI cable is much nicer than three wire component. Especially if you're using a camera that has the proprietary port and connector that snaps on, it's easy to bend those accidentally. A single BNC connection is more rugged and clean.

Adrian Price
June 16th, 2009, 06:35 PM
Hey Guy

Great news about the long awaited release of the SDI version.

Are they listed on the dv creators site yet? Just had a look and couldn't see it listed as one of the options.

Guy Cochran
June 17th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Hi Adrian,

Thanks for asking, yes, here is the direct link Marshall Electronics 7″ LCD Monitor at DVcreators.net (http://www.dvcreators.net/marshall-electronics-7-lcd-monitor/)

Kind of cool, Marshall liked the "Calibrating a Broadcast Monitor + New Pro features" video we produced about their 7" LCD monitor and asked if they could put it on their actual product page (http://lcdracks.com/monitors/v-lcd70p-3gsdi.html)

Of course I said, "Yes!" That video is result of people here on dvinfo wanting to see more detail on the monitor so, way to go folks! Shot it with the Canon 5D Mark II 100mm macro lens.

Adrian Price
June 20th, 2009, 01:18 PM
Hey Guy, or anyone else who can answer this dumb-ass question.

OK so is there a difference between HDSDI and 3GSDI? The most recent Marshall model and the one on the DV Creators site is this one V-LCD70P-3GSDI.

Is this the HDSDI model or is there a specific HDSDI model apart from this.

my apologies in advance if this is the dumbest ass question ever!