There are definitely more photographers in a given market than videographers. The demand for photographers is also higher, so maybe it evens out. It's hard to say.

The odd thing is that my wife does market a bit more than me for weddings, but she doesn't have to market for weddings nearly as much as she has to market for seniors.

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WOW

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Let's agree on one point - This fusion technology will never affect clients who are looking for long-form video coverage. However, I suspect many potential clients are satisfied with little snippets of videos of poignant moments throughout the day. These people will more than willing to go with a "video add-on" package from their photographer. The Bebbs trailer here is a very compelling example of how a two person photography team can provide a very watchable video product. No, their offering won't satisfy every potential client out there, but it does mean a significant chunk of clients that we'll now have to compete for.

A note to Jeff Harper:
I don't care what market you are in, charging less than $2,000 for an involved three cam shoot is way too low. Im glad you are nowhere around here.

What is too low? Oh I know. You want others to set pricing that is line with what YOU think is fair. I have been in the wedding business since 1988 and have seen this attitude plenty, and I don't care for it, never have.

What price I choose may be too low for you, but you are not running my business or feeding my family, I am.

One of my friends in the biz is a really great guy, but one issue I have with him is that constantly complains about other people's pricing as well as their styles. He is like a broken record, and never seems happy with how others run their businesses.

What is too low? Oh I know. You want others to set pricing that is line with what YOU think is fair. I have been in the wedding business since 1988 and have seen this attitude plenty, and I don't care for it, never have.

What price I choose may be too low for you, but you are not running my business or feeding my family, I am.

One of my friends in the biz is a really great guy, but one issue I have with him is that constantly complains about other people's pricing as well as their styles. He is like a broken record, and never seems happy with how others run their businesses.



Jeff-
regardless of your pricing or package options, you are obviously doing something right with that many years behind you as an event video producer. I don't think there's too many folks around here who can say they have been in business for 20 years...hats off to you my man!

Thanks Joe, but in all honesty I've only been in the video business a relatively short few years. Prior I ran an entertainment company for the bulk of my career. But as 80% of our business was wedding related, there is virtually no difference on the business side of things whether you're running enteraintment or video.

I mentioned my friend who always complains. I don't think it is a coincidence that the target of his ire is mostly for the largest wedding videographer in the area who does upwards of 200 weddings a year, has standing contracts with many funeral homes and he does a boatload of corporate stuff too, all out of his home. He has lots of shooters and and certain times of the year he has up to three (or is it four?) full-time editors knocking out work.

Funny thing is this guy really is the absolutely nicest, fairest guy I know. What's even funnier is he is despised by a lot if not most other videgraphers in this area. Finally became clear to me that it is his success they dispise. It is an amazing thing to behold.

Meantime, I consider both of these guys and a few others, my friends. I don't care how they run their business or what they charge, but I guess that comes with getting old!

I admit the advent of cheap digital still cameras has caused damge to some of the old-time photographers, and many of them would say it has caused a decline in quality. But that is the way with everything now, unfortunately. From McDonalds hamburgers to the low-quality of music downloads, there is a huge sector of consumers that value price and convenience over quality, and it is becoming only more-so.

+1

Happy New Year!!

Mike




I say good luck to 'em. If the photographer has business sense then working together with videoprahpers would only help the industry and their own business.[/QUOTE]