View Full Version : Super 8 Demo Reel


John Moon
November 15th, 2008, 06:33 PM
This is a montage of some of the weddings where we utilized Super 8 film.

Northernlight Filmworks-Indianapolis Wedding Video: Super 8 Film - Demo (http://northernlightfilmworks.blogspot.com/2008/11/super-8-film-demo.html)

Thanks,
John

Bruce Patterson
November 16th, 2008, 03:00 AM
Hey John,

Thanks so much for posting your clip - I thought it was very well done! I've only dabbled in S8 and hit some roadblocks with a bad camera. The footage all looks really clean in your piece and it gives a really nice nostalgic feel.

Colin McDonald
November 16th, 2008, 07:46 AM
I liked that a lot more than the last Super 8 that I commented on and moaned about (though I was cleared outvoted)! For me Super 8 has a certain nostalgic quality about it which can be featured without being confused with bad camera technique or editing. But I'm just an old f*rt about this as you know. Thanks for posting!

Chad Dyle
November 16th, 2008, 08:22 AM
John,

That was some great work. How much experience did you have with film before jumping into the 8mm work? I would love to attempt something like that here, but I don't know if our brides would want it.

John Moon
November 16th, 2008, 12:11 PM
Thanks Bruce. We have had good results with our Canon but anything 40 years old is a risk.

Colin...no problem. Like I said people either love it or hate it and I keep asking clients why they choose S8 so that I can look through an objective lens of why people pay for it. Appreciate you watching.

Chad...I really had zero experience going into it, other than having a little photography background and just tried to learn as much about the medium as possible as well as study other work and films. Exposure and focus are 2 critical things to watch. I learn something every time.

Robert Bec
November 16th, 2008, 04:35 PM
hey John nice work. what camera are you using and do you have to take the film to the lab how do you go about getting it in either quicktime, avi formats.

I am looking at buying a super8 cam i was looking at the Canon 1014 XL-S or the nokin R10

what are your thoughts

Rob

John Moon
November 16th, 2008, 07:04 PM
hey John nice work. what camera are you using and do you have to take the film to the lab how do you go about getting it in either quicktime, avi formats.

I am looking at buying a super8 cam i was looking at the Canon 1014 XL-S or the nokin R10

what are your thoughts

Rob

Rob:
Canon 814xl & 1014xls. The 1014 is more quiet. IMO the Canons are pretty durable. Be sure the glass is free of fungus and that there is no corrosion in the battery bay.

I purchase our stock from Spectra in California...shoot it..then back to Spectra for processing. They telecine to transfer on mini dv and we capture from there.

Hope that helps

Richard Alvarez
November 16th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Funny, I was in Los Angeles last week for some meetings, and drove past Super 8 Sound in Burbank. I stopped in, and watched their HD demo reel on their HD screen. Most of the shots were with various Fujii stocks, but MAN it looked terrific! So you have the option of getting an SD or HD telecine - pretty impressive.

Robert Bec
November 16th, 2008, 11:25 PM
John

How would you charge for shooting super 8. I rang my local supplier they are asking $30 per film roll which runs for 3minutes then a setup fee of $40 plus $79 to transfer to miniDV

Not cheap and if you shoot 24p it's about 2minutes of footage. I can see myself going through a few film cartridges before i get it the way i want

Expensive.

Robert Bec
November 16th, 2008, 11:43 PM
John

which film are you using and what frame rate are you shooting in

William Smyth
November 17th, 2008, 07:57 AM
Hey John,

Very nice. Great music selection. Do you shoot the entire wedding in Super 8, or just stuff for the highlights video? Are you using a local lab to process your stuff?

John Moon
November 17th, 2008, 10:22 AM
John

which film are you using and what frame rate are you shooting in

Kokak Vision2 200T and 500T. B&W Reversal TriX. Vision3 just came out and will be ordering some of that.

We shoot in 18fps and tell the lab that when it goes for processing. You get a little more than 3min out of a 50' roll.

John Moon
November 17th, 2008, 10:28 AM
Hey John,

Very nice. Great music selection. Do you shoot the entire wedding in Super 8, or just stuff for the highlights video? Are you using a local lab to process your stuff?

A large part of the ceremony can be filmed but also use video. Our packages start out at 3 roll minimums and go up from there to 15min, 30min and 60min.

We use Spectra Film and Video in California. We have been very pleased with the quality of the lab, telecine and customer service. There are others around but this is who we like. Cinelicous in California is another lab I would like to try.

John Moon
November 17th, 2008, 10:33 AM
John

How would you charge for shooting super 8. I rang my local supplier they are asking $30 per film roll which runs for 3minutes then a setup fee of $40 plus $79 to transfer to miniDV

Not cheap and if you shoot 24p it's about 2minutes of footage. I can see myself going through a few film cartridges before i get it the way i want

Expensive.

It is expensive. We shoot in 18fps and it gets a little more mileage. It does cause you to be very selective in your shooting and you learn that exposure is so important. Focus is a little more of a challenge with film and you learn each time you shoot. My heart pounds when we get a shipment back from the lab. A little anxiety and excitement at the same time.

Robert Bec
November 17th, 2008, 01:23 PM
One more question John. I have only seen super8 on the web but you have used it. Do you think you If you fiddle, you can get something that looks similar using Nattress G Film effects.
providing you use a mac.

William Smyth
November 17th, 2008, 01:34 PM
A large part of the ceremony can be filmed but also use video. Our packages start out at 3 roll minimums and go up from there to 15min, 30min and 60min.

We use Spectra Film and Video in California. We have been very pleased with the quality of the lab, telecine and customer service. There are others around but this is who we like. Cinelicous in California is another lab I would like to try.

Thanks John. We've been shooting some Super 8 too, but would like to find some other labs, thanks for the tip.

John Moon
November 17th, 2008, 01:40 PM
One more question John. I have only seen super8 on the web but you have used it. Do you think you If you fiddle, you can get something that looks similar using Nattress G Film effects.
providing you use a mac.

There are lots of plugins in the pursuit of getting the film look. If we shoot our Brevis 35mm adapter and mess with curves, we can get some very filmic footage. You can get something that is similar but I find the color depth and the overall organic look to be something I prefer. If Super 8 is the look we are going for. The other dynamic of this is that when you shoot with a Super 8 camera, people just can't help but to be drawn to it. The look the sound, etc. For some reason there is more of a respect factor. This last summer we shot a wedding with a prominent high end photographer and he saw me shooting Super 8 and said "now I can sell you on that" and asked for my card(s). That aspect is impossible to accomplish in post :)

Jeff Kellam
November 17th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Im glad you are having some success at this, but I have to provide the opposite perspective.

In the age of HD, and someday UHD, it's hard to believe anyone is buying into this.

This is a perfect P.T. Barnum quote situation;
"Without promotion something terrible happens...Nothing!"

and of course
"Theres a sucker born every minute."

What's next, shooting weddings on the PXL-2000?

John Moon
November 17th, 2008, 05:04 PM
Im glad you are having some success at this, but I have to provide the opposite perspective.

In the age of HD, and someday UHD, it's hard to believe anyone is buying into this.

This is a perfect P.T. Barnum quote situation;
"Without promotion something terrible happens...Nothing!"

and of course
"Theres a sucker born every minute."

What's next, shooting weddings on the PXL-2000?

Jeff:

There is a niche of clientele that want something unique. It is not for everyone by any means, whether shooter or shootee. I had a bride contact me because she saw the Tori Spelling wedding....pop culture dictates many trends. Will it stay? Who knows. I love HD and Super 8 and I believe they can coexist. We show Super 8 footage to people and we know right away if they want it. We never compare HD to Super 8, there is no point. We have also had Brides say they don't want to see themselves in HD...too much detail and these were beautiful girls.

Jeff Kellam
November 17th, 2008, 07:53 PM
Jeff:

There is a niche of clientele that want something unique. It is not for everyone by any means, whether shooter or shootee. I had a bride contact me because she saw the Tori Spelling wedding....pop culture dictates many trends. Will it stay? Who knows. I love HD and Super 8 and I believe they can coexist. We show Super 8 footage to people and we know right away if they want it. We never compare HD to Super 8, there is no point. We have also had Brides say they don't want to see themselves in HD...too much detail and these were beautiful girls.

John:

I guess Im a little sheltered since all the weddings I shoot are couples in their late 30s and mostly 40s. They are all pretty conservative. The too much detail comment is on the mark though. I shoot accordingly.

My parents shot 8mm in the early 60s and then I shot a lot of 8mm in the late 70s and early 80s. I just had it converted to digital a year or so ago. I just don't miss it.

But, everything old is new again. Good 8mm footage you have, good luck.

Jeff

Robert Bec
November 17th, 2008, 08:05 PM
The look the sound, etc.

I thought you couldn't record sound anymore

John Moon
November 17th, 2008, 08:06 PM
I thought you couldn't record sound anymore

The sound of the camera in operation.