Most PCs only have 32bit 33MHz PCI. Of course faster PCI is available on PCs, I just don't have one of those on my desktop. :(

Note: I did mean "HD" not "SD". True, the real-time preview is not full HD (although is not SD), yet you can playback full resolution HD CFHD files out to an HD monitor, through any playback tool like MediaPlayer.

It is possible that future versions of Aspect HD will support HD-SDI cards for direct HD playback and export from the timeline (we just don't have that today.)

The Premiere window can be a big as you like. I run mine to fit half (horizontally) my desktop. Around 800x450 on a 1600x1200 display. On a 1280x1024 LCD I tend to use around 640x360. Note: I don't like "dual" editing modes, I prefer the single view, so I can have the high-res image quality. The desktop picture within http://www.cineform.com/products.html is snapshot on my workspace, so you can see how I run my editing environment.

<<<-- Originally posted by David Newman : Note: I did mean "HD" not "SD". True, the real-time preview is not full HD (although is not SD), yet you can playback full resolution HD CFHD files out to an HD monitor, through any playback tool like MediaPlayer. -->>>

The original poster wanted to see video on an HD monitor WHILE editing in Premiere. So that means using the Matrox overlay feature which only goes out as NTSC.

You can move the Premiere Program monitor to the second or third Matrox monitor at SXGA rez. Then pass the DVI to an HD monitor. Alternately, output through a converter to HD YPbPr and then to an HD monitor.

But this assumes Aspect HD will output 1280x720 to the Premiere Program monitor. Can it?

<<<-- Originally posted by David Newman : Note: I did mean "HD" not "SD". True, the real-time preview is not full HD (although is not SD), yet you can playback full resolution HD CFHD files out to an HD monitor, through any playback tool like MediaPlayer. -->>>

The original poster wanted to see video on an HD monitor WHILE editing in Premiere. So that means using the Matrox overlay feature which only goes out as NTSC.

OR -- you can move the Premiere Program monitor to the second or third Matrox monitor at SXGA rez. Then pass the DVI to an HD monitor. Alternately, output through a converter to HD YPbPr and then to an HD monitor.

But this assumes Aspect HD will output 1280x720 to the Premiere Program monitor. Can it?

<<<-- Originally posted by Steve Mullen : <<<--
OR -- you can move the Premiere Program monitor to the second or third Matrox monitor at SXGA rez. Then pass the DVI to an HD monitor. Alternately, output through a converter to HD YPbPr and then to an HD monitor.

But this assumes Aspect HD will output 1280x720 to the Premiere Program monitor. Can it? -->>>

Sort-of. We can output the overlay to SXGA as you describe, but because you are running in preview mode for real-time editing, not all the definition will be there. At that resolution the image will be a little softer than the final full quality export. There is enough definition to still look great on a now common place 42" plasma screen. Technically 4 channels of full HD is not possible today, not enough CPU (this why AVID $200k+ systems only do two streams.) We needed to make sure that there was both high enough performance and image quality that a editor could play a work in progress off the timeline for customers; allowing edits on the fly while seeing flawless 30 fps playback. No one else can match this.

So if I drag the Premiere monitor to it's own Matrox output window and connect an "HD" monitor of some type, I'll see full-motion playback that folks are asking for.

And, while this has higher rez than NTSC it is not true 1280x720. It's softter.

Now about the SXGA overlay. Are you saying the internal Premiere overlay HAS the 1280x720 full-motion, real-time video?

If so, is the problem that Matrox only outputs the overlay via NTSC? Or, can the user send the overlay out one of the RGB/DVI ports as SXGA graphics.

While I'm happy with a letterboxed NTSC output to an ordinary monitor -- I think if I could hook-up my HD projector to the computer and see the Preview monitor in HD I would be even happier. And, for some this is essential.

You don't need to do all that. The Matrox card will already support full screen SXGA output of the overlay without having to drag the overlay onto another screen. This is how Applied Magic orginally set up their system, so I have seen it done (and it looks nice.) Although I haven't played on the Maxtox config much, so I can't help you there. I'm sure it is easy enough to work out.

<<<-- Originally posted by David Newman : You don't need to do all that. The Matrox card will already support full screen SXGA output of the overlay without having to drag the overlay onto another screen. This is how Applied Magic orginally set up their system, so I have seen it done (and it looks nice.) Although I haven't played on the Maxtox config much, so I can't help you there. I'm sure it is easy enough to work out. -->>>

Are you saying that IF I had connected my RGB HD projector to the second Matrox output instead of connecting an NTSC monitor to the third Matrox output -- I would have seen the overlay output in HD?

David, it may be easy to work out, but I've reviewed the Matrox board and I never saw anything about the overlay not being NTSC. This is important information that should, if true, be included with Aspect HD docs. Who would know HOW to do this?

I'll check with Matrox.

The overlay is not inherently NTSC, I only refer to the overlay as being the YUV channel on the video card -- it can be very large (bigger than HD -- although I haven't tried more than 1280x720 with the Matrox Parhelia.) I think there is a setting to copy to YUV overlay and send it to the SXGA/DVI output instead of the NTSC output. This has nothing to do with Aspect HD -- purely a function of the Matrox cards.

<<<-- Originally posted by David Newman : The overlay is not inherently NTSC, I only refer to the overlay as being the YUV channel on the video card -- it can be very large (bigger than HD -- although I haven't tried more than 1280x720 with the Matrox Parhelia.) There is a setting to copy to YUV overlay and send it to the SXGA/DVI output instead of the NTSC output. This has nothing to do with Aspect HD -- purely a function of the Matrox cards. -->>>

This really should have been fully documented as it's an essential part of using Aspect HD in the real world.

If we shipped the Matrox cards yes, but every end user will have a different setup. Basically if you set up your video card so that MediaPlayer (which will use the YUV overlay) outputs to an external display, Aspect HD will do the same. This would be explained in the manual that comes with the video card.

The P750/Parhelia manula is available here:
http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/user_manuals/parhelia_pseries/home.cfm

This thread has got a litttle off topic discussing a third party card that I have never set up (although I use one occasionally at the office.) We recommend it for it very easy and high quality NTSC preview, yet this is a tripple head card so I sure clever users can do some excellent things with it.

Looking over the Matrox manual myself I couldn't find out what is the maximum resolution it can directed via the overlay to an external monitor. Maybe its hardware is limited to SD resolution, therefore scaling whatever you sent to it.

Which cards out there have YPrPb outputs? Maybe one of those hold the key to what you are looking for.

I just read this post and thought it might be relavent. It is a Matrox tech support posting, reposting:

""Premier Pro has no overlay support and as a result, it will not work with the DVDMax feature.
As for Premier 6.5, ONLY video clips in DV format are overlayed properly and make use of the DVDMax feature."

I hope this is wrong!
Ken

Not good news about PPro!

However, the overlay does work with AspectHD's wavelet video. It ouputs letterboxed NTSC video.

The question we need answered from CineForm is if the overlay carries full rez 1280x720 video AND if the overlay can be output via an RGB/DVI connection.

Hey everyone--So I'll probably be getting Aspect HD, but I need to confirm something. We currently have Premiere Pro, no 6.5, and of course Aspect is not compatible with Pro. If I purchase Aspect will they include 6.5, or will I have to purchase 6.5 as well? Thanks!

Peter

If you contact us directly we might have a solution that will work for you. Try salesinfo@cineform.com or give CineForm a call.

Thanks David, I'll send an email, or call, or both. :)

Peter

Sorry I put the wrong email address (now corrected.) salesinfo@cineform.com should work.

I use Matrox Parhelia card, and what I see is the following:

- Parhelia outputs Video Overlay signal via both S-Video *and* DVI connectors (S-Video is just another cable adapter on top of this card's 2nd DVI output);

- However quality of the overlay signal in either case seems to be SD as it is much softer than the original HD video.

In my setup, I have HD monitor as Second monitor that is fed by Parhelia's DVI output. (First monitor is 19" CRT traditional computer monitor.)

When I'm viewing video overlay signal on that HD monitor, the image is soft.

If I move the application's Preview window onto my Second (HD) monitor, then the image is super-sharp.

Now, not only Adobe Premiere/Pro does not produce overlay, but neither does AfterEffects.

To rectify this, Parhelia has special driver that you download for free from their web site.

Currently, it only supports AfterEffects, and produces the same output as if the program itself had video overlay feature.

Matrox promised the same driver for Premiere, but none is available as of this writing - bummer!

Now, as I said, to view my timeline in HD resolution, I stopped using the overlay, but rather I move the preview windows onto my Second, HD monitor.

Premiere Pro allows for the preview image to Fit into the window, so when I resize the preview window to fit my 1280x720 display, the internal picture resizes and fits accordingly. (Obviously, without overlay, I cannot use the whole 1280x720 area as part of it is lost to display the windows' borders.)

Question: how to Fit the preview inside the window in AfterEffects? It only seems to allow 100% and then 50% step, where 100% cuts the lower part of the image in the window, and 50% is too small to be useful.

Any ideas?

The Premiere Pro version for Aspect HD will have its own solution for supporting the Matrox overlay (for external monitor previews) as well as it works under Aspect HD for Premiere 6.5.

<<<-- Originally posted by Alex Raskin :

When I'm viewing video overlay signal on that HD monitor, the image is soft.

So that implies the overlay is NOT 1280x720.

To Adobe, what is the max rez of the Overlay?

The question for CineForm, what rez is CAN be sent to the Overlay?

And to Matrox, is the Overlay no matter HOW output, limited to NTSC rez?


Matrox promised the same driver for Premiere, but none is available as of this writing -- bummer!

Which implies PPro does support an Overlay, but that it is different enough that Matrox doesn't yet support it. Good!

But the same three questions apply to this NEW PPro Overlay.



How to Fit the preview inside the window in AfterEffects? It only seems to allow 100% and then 50% step, where 100% cuts the lower part of the image in the window, and 50% is too small to be useful. -->>>

I remember that from AE on a PC, but on my Mac the size is fully adjustable by its corner.

Why not post a question on the Matrox site?

I asked this question @ MURC (Matrox users resource center) Desktop Video Forum ( A great place for nle in general, but esp. if it involves Matrox hardware)

http://forums.matroxusers.com/index.php?

Q-"What is the maximum resolution Parhelia can directed via the overlay to an external monitor? Is it hardware limited to SD resolution, therefore scaling whatever you set it to? Or can it do true 720p on external overlay?"

A-"I think that Parhelia's overlay surface is hw limited to 1600x1200 therefor it shouldn't have any problems displaying 1280x720.
G4x0 and G550 also had limitation regarding size of video displayed via DVDMax. Width of the video must be divisible with 16. Don't know if it still applies to Parhelia."

Alex, you might want to repost in that forum and see if you can get any answers. They know the Parhelia inside and out in that forum. Just don't mention VIA and you will be fine.
Ken

Ken, I promise not to mention VIA :)

Overlay quality: I do not know what the tech specs say (and from your quote the reply on Matrox forum was not so sure anyway) but hee's what I *actually* see:

Start AE (Parhelia's driver for it installed beforehand, of course).

Open a project. (My Workspace is already configured/memorized so Preview Window is showing in the Second monitor, which is a HD monitor connected to Parhelia's DVI output).

What I see first is a somewhat soft image on my HD monitor.

At the same time, there's a small Matrox button hovering on my First monitor with label "View Desktop".

I click on that button; AE driver now disappears, and what I see on the Second monitor now is the same image as before, but super-sharp, in AE's preview window.

Because all I did was disabling Parhelia's special AE driver, the monitor, its DVI input, and the image itself being all the same, I can assure you that driver-produced image is visibly softer.

I have read somewhere that video overlay is actually limited to NTSC resolution, and so far my own experience seems to confirm that.

Compare for yourself, and see the difference.

Steve, this NOTE is for you: Do NOT assume that Parhelia's AE driver (see above) even uses video overlay as other software does.

You see, I unchecked "Use Video Overlay" box in Parhelia as I was dissatisfied with its quality after uprading to HD monitor.

Consequently, my Second monitor stopped showing "features" - which is anything that produced by any overlay-using program.

But! It still does show AE's output generated by that special Parhelia driver!

I thought you should know about this, because you seem to be really interested in the overlay thing, and this is an important development that probably suggests that AE driver doesn't even use traditional overlay feature, but communicates with the card some other way (??). OR, that unchecking "Overlay" box in Parhelia does not prevent its own AE overlay driver from working still.

It's rather crazy, I know.

Bottom line is that I stopped using overlay features altogether after upgrading to HD monitor, as overlay quality is visibly inferior to the same video playing in the application's window.

<<<-- Originally posted by Kevin Sturges : How does Vegas Video work with HD? Is the display realtime? -->>>

Because Vegas is software-only, it depends entirely on your pc's performance capabilities. Not just cpu speed, but bus speed, memory and graphics card performance. On my 3 Ghz Pentium 4 with 800 Mhz frontside bus, 1 Gig of memory, and nVidia Geforce4 graphics card, I am able to work with JVC m2t files without dropping frames during playback. Timeline performance is also smooth, with no stuttering while scrubbing, etc.

<<<-- Originally posted by Bob England :Because Vegas is software-only, it depends entirely on your pc's performance capabilities. Not just cpu speed, but bus speed, memory and graphics card performance. On my 3 Ghz Pentium 4 with 800 Mhz frontside bus, 1 Gig of memory, and nVidia Geforce4 graphics card, I am able to work with JVC m2t files without dropping frames during playback. Timeline performance is also smooth, with no stuttering while scrubbing, etc. -->>>

I second you opinion on Vega, I am very happy with the results. My PC is very similar to your. I just added a Matrox Parhelia video card and did not see much performance improvement over the ATI 9600 but the PQ is slightly improved. I am considering a dual Xeon 3.06 just to see if my multiple track performance improves. I think Vega is very underrated for HD editing clips from this camera. I have had other say they had to jump though hoops to edit in Vegas but I just don’t see being that big of a problem.

Mike

I too had no problem playing HDV with Vega.

But, I did not find it Vegas able to play transitions without stuttering with a 2.8GHz.

How does your machine handle FX?

does the alpha channel info get saved with HDV and does Aspect handle this as well?

and would Aspect/Premiere be adequate for color correction?

thanks.

<<<-- Originally posted by Josef Crow : does the alpha channel info get saved with HDV and does Aspect handle this as well?

and would Aspect/Premiere be adequate for color correction?

thanks. -->>>

There is no alpha information in HDV, just there isn't in any camera source. All alpha mixing is handled either by the CineForm pipeline (for real-time operations) or by Premiere's rendered filters. However, CFHD doesn't store alpha information on export (it is a three channel compressor not four) -- key channels need to be stored separately if you intend to do that type on downstream compositing work.

Aspect HD has two real-time color correctors. One is a linear channel corrector (brightness, contrast, saturation and RGB levels) and the other a three point gamma corrector (shadows, midtones, highlights.) These two can be used together for an excellent range of color control. You can also use the Premiere color corrector for additional flexibility -- but that one will need rendering.

Is there one available. It would answer a lot of questions.

I too am interested in a demo version of Aspect HD. I am probably going to buy Aspect for Premiere Pro, but I would like to "try before I buy".

Also, one more question for David Newman:

You mentioned a color corrector that has gamma control. How well do these compensate for the JVC HD camera's highlight/shadow shortcomings?

-Chris Gordon

A downloadable demo version may happen in the future but I don't know when. Currently there is a demo version on Darren Kelly HDV training DVD.

Gamma style color correction is exactly what you need to tweek highlight and shadow characters.

We are planning to shoot a low budget feature soon. We are planning to shoot using HDV. Right now we are thinking ahead about post and wondering if we would be better off using AspectHD ($1200) for editing or converting all of the MPEG2 files to Blackmagic Codec and using the Decklink HD ($1900) on Final Cut Pro? We are mostly concerned about performance.

We are comfortable using either FCP or Premiere Pro. All of our compositing and color corection (color finesse) will be done in After Effects, so we like being able to open Premiere Pro projects nativly.

Will we see better performance from using the Decklink HD hardware or AspectHD software. We will mostly just be doing cuts and disolves.

I hoped someone other than myself would chime in on this one. Here is how I see the difference:

Aspect HD is designed for preformance editing of HDV 720p30 (and soon many more HDV resolutions as a free upgrade.) Decklink HD is more an HD-SDI I/O card than an accelerator, mostly used for transporting uncompressed HD video to and from the computer. If you intend to shoot with HD-SDI equipment then using HD-SDI will give you the best quality, but you performance will be limited to your drive speed. As you are shooting with HDV, you will not be using the Decklink card for input (there are no quality advantages in using an expensive extenal YPrPB to HD-SDI convertor.) Useless you are thinking about future projects, the Decklink card will not be helping you here. It is never good to purchase something that you might needed in the future, as technology changes too rapidly for anyone to make wise advanced purchases. Aspect HD will serve you well, today.

David Newman
CTO, CineForm.

And, for the record for all you Mac nutcases out there like me, the guys and gals at AJA say their Kona HD card is tops for bringing in HDV to edit. But I think you need something else. Do a search here on the site for KONA HD and HDV and I think you'll find something written by Darren Kelly, who uses it.

heath

David,

Wouldn't you say that there is a process advantage to using the Decklink HD card to capture HDV via an extenal YPrPB to HD-SDI convertor.

Simply because the footage is ready for capture and does not have to be demultiplexed and reprocessed into a codec.

Also, my understanding of the Decklink HD card is that it will allow for realtime uncompressed editing of HD in the timeline, at least on the G5.

Finally, the card also allows for capture of other HD material (other than HDV) which is definitely a plus for a post production professional trying to capture (no pund intended) as much business as he/she can.

Frederic,

No, I wouldn't say there is any advantage is going out analog and converting to HD-SDI, then capturing uncompressed. First there is the unnecessary cost, then there is the slight reduction in quality (particular for 8bit sampling), and finially the large waste of disk space. The disk space is twice as bad as uncompressed normally is as you are now capturing 60p. All this assumes you can do it to. Users have been struggling with the 29.97p to 60p vs 59.94p issues.

As Aspect HD can demultiplex and encode into an AVI effectively in real-time -- it can't get much simplier.

You are correct that the Decklink card could allow real-time, however just two uncompressed 720p60 streams (i.e. a dissolve) will require a sustained disk performance 221MBytes per second. Technically this is possible but very expensive, and I have never seen it work. So with Aspect HD you can typically do four streams of the JVC footage off two SATA or IDE 7200rpm drives, which will only set you back $200.

I absolutely agree that HD-SDI does allow you to capture other materials, but this user asked about an HDV project. HD-SDI is a bad fit for today's HDV projects. If his next project requires HD-SDI, I'm sure the cost of HD-SDI and the disks required will be greatly lower than they are today.

David,

You make some good arguments.

How do you monitor your editing with realtime preview with Premiere Pro and Aspect Hd combination on a NTSC broadcast monitor ?
Gabor

You will need a dual head video card that can take the video overlay channel and output that to a second display. Most of the recent ATI cards do this (9800 series I believe), along with the Maxtrox P750 and Parhelia video cards which promote this function.

If you need to ask whether a particular card has this function, ask whether MediaPlayer output can be seen on desktop, and have just the video signal go out the TV (s-video) port. The function needs a name, yet it is becoming common.

We just purchased a Matrox P750 to edit our HD10 footage with AspectHD. To my surprise the P750 does NOT offer RT video preview. The Matrox web pages were very decieving. Under the Matrox Parhelia and P series drivers page, the WYSIWYG plug-ins do not all work with the P series cards. Even though this is explained only in the read-me file of the plug-in. Something you would only check once you own the card and install the drivers. Customer support gave me a huge run around, then said they were going to refer my complaint to a higher athority. That never happened. After a further email was sent asking for a reply I got this responce.

"Hi Ken,

They made their web pages abit more clearer but that's about all that will happen.

Mike"

I had a feeling that would be the responce. I have the old pages saved and plan to bundle them with my emails and send them to any and all Video Editing, and Hardware Review sites.
The Matrox site has many of the same complaint on its tech support forums. Matox has been unwilling to budge and offer any of its unhappy customers an upgrade option. Pathetic!

The P750 will work with Premiere 6.5. But not After Effects and Premiere Pro. Something about them not using overlay. Tech support says they have no plans to release P750 WYSIWYG drivers.

I had this card recommended to me by half a dozen video "experts" specifically for editing Premiere Pro and After Effects. I guess I wasn't the only one who was tricked by Matrox.
Ken

Technically that is all correct, EXCEPT, Aspect HD has the necessary code that make a wider range of cards work with Premiere Pro, including the P750. Matrox should know this by now, but as CineForm is a competitor I guess they didn't want to put us on their site :)

It will only work in the Aspect HD editing mode, and the card is annoying to set up. Follow the Matorx instructions for making media player work to an external monitor. You may also contact support@cineform.com if Matrox is no help.

That is good news. I have our PC with the P750 up and running, getting the software installed, but our cam and AspectHD package will be arriving soon so I haven't been able to try it out yet. (can't wait!)
This is yet another solid reason to use AspectHD.
Ken

I hope somebody can help me.I downloaded the Aspect HD demo simply because I just wanted to try it before I purchase the software.However when I was trying to install it I got an error message that the MSI installer cannot be accesed .I get in touch with support at cineform and they told me that something wrong with my xp msi installer.However I installed lately at least 5 other softwares and none of them has a problem.I tried the installer on another machine with the same message!!!
I dont know what to do and I really want to purchase this software but I need to make it work before I pay $1199 for a package like this...
I have the latest updated for windows xp !!
Anybody can help???

Gabor,

This is the exact error which you reported to me:

"The Windows Installer Service cannot be accessed. This can occur if you are running Windows in safe mode, or if the windows installer is not correctly installed. Contact your support personnel for assistance."

This error occurs when there is a problem with the Windows Installer Service or if the Service is missing. It can be a corruption of the Windows Installer, or a registry problem causing the windows installer service to fail. This may not be apparent when installing other software, if the other software does not use a windows installer. There are many different companies that use other types of installers. However, when this error occurs, it will occur with any installer that uses the Windows Installer Service.

My recommendation to you is this:

Search the web using the first sentence of the error message. You will find many recommendations for fixing that error, all of which are fixes for the windows installer service. Below I have pasted links to a few articles. Follow the advice in these articles at your own risk. Many of the articles involve registry changes and fixes, and CineForm is not responsible for problems that may be caused by following these instructions:

To check to be sure you have this component of windows enabled, look at this link:

http://www.installsite.org/pages/en/msifaq/error/1719.htm


If your installer service is enabled as in the article above, here is a registry hack for reregistering the service. USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=315353

Hope this helps you.

Thad H.
CineForm Support

Thad,
thank you SOOOO much...one of these registry hacks did work.I tried it last night and one of them worked so it is all ok now..I will play with it today and I will order the full version !
Thanks again
Gabor

Well, I loaded up my aspect HD plug in I just got into my Ppro 1.5.
I borrowed a JVC HDV camera and used capture HD to pull in an hour of video. Am using a dual 3.6 Ghz, MT, with 4 gig of DDR 3200 and SCSI drives. It basically brought the video in real time.

I edited a clip in Premiere. Outputed to M2t and exported back to the camera. Everything worked like a champ, and VERY easy to do.

So, couple of questions.

Looks like there is a limit to 30 minutes. Any idea when this will be fixed.

Looks like you have to play games with sending the export as a mpeg extension, and then rename to m2t. I assume this will be fixed somewhere?

I did not get a chance to try the transistions yet.

How about the encoder options. The default is a medium file size.
What about using Large file size. What impacts would this have?
If one is doing HD, why would one not want to edit in maximum quality?

What was neat, in my opinion, is the ability to take my HDV project, and dump it to standard DVD video for family. But, what options are people using to send out HD material? Can it be burned to a DVD and played on any players? I am going to try and get a DVHS deck which would work for me, but, very few folks have.

Man, these are exciting times!! Just need to get my hand on the sony HDV with XLR inputs.

Dave

There isn't any longer a 30 minute limitation. There used to be a output length limitation that was fixed nearly a year ago. This is now a fairly established product with a lot of customers add up to hundreds of thousands of hours in operation.

We set the default encode quality to medium as that holds more quality that you can capture with an HDV camera. We added the even higher quality setting as some people love overkill. :) Basically you will not see any visible difference between medium and large (high) quality modes.

Thanks.

Now, I thought I read about the 30 minute limit on your web site
yesterday. If this limit is gone, maybe that info should be removed so others will not ask my dumb question.

Dave

Dave,

I turns out that article you read is a little old. There are two, essentially on the same subject, but one is on Premiere 6.5 and one is on Premiere Pro.

Basically there were exporting problems with Premiere that were fixed with the Premiere Pro 1.5 release. Since you have Premiere Pro 1.5, and all the latest Aspect components, this will not be a limitation for you.

I apologize for the confusion, and I'll be updating our article today.

Thad H.
CineForm Support

Did a little more playing last night.

So I took two HDV clips and slapped them on the timeline.
I then took an aspect HD transistion and placed it at the splice.
When I played the timeline, the A clip of the transistion worked great with the a/b showing. But as soon as it hit the B clip, the A material got replaced with the B stream so I had a B/B.
Now, to make matters more strange, if I placed the marker at any point on the B clip transistion points manually, it showed the transistion correctly with the a/b material. As soon as I hit play, the A material again got replaced wth the B stream so it was b/b again. So, am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

Dave

Yes. :) But I have no idea what. You should use our tech support for help on this matter. Thad Huston will be able to help you.

Will do once your web site is back up.

Dave