oK updated my cam to 1.11 purchased a Lexar 8gb EXPRESS CARD SSD put it in the Ex1 message Format card poped up. Formated the card recorded at SP and HQ modes complete. I do not know if I would try recording a paid job with the after market cards at HQ mode. The only problem is the Sony external card reader will not read the Lexar express card SSD had to use my laptop.

Brian do tell in detail.
Exactly which Lexar 8GB card.
Exactly what record mode settings did you use.
"laptop" Mac, Windows, card slot, OS?
Little things can make a BIG difference.
Did copy files with Clip Browser, test in your NLE (which one)?

Thanks in advance.

Brian do tell in detail.
Exactly which Lexar 8GB card.
Exactly what record mode settings did you use.
"laptop" Mac, Windows, card slot, OS?
Little things can make a BIG difference.
Did copy files with Clip Browser, test in your NLE (which one)?

Thanks in advance.


1. Lexar 8gb Expres Card (SSD) (Windows ready boot) Ex8gb-431
2. Use windows Vista on my Hp Lap top with Express Card Slot
3. Copy to Clip Browser Exported to MXF file.
4. Shot SP mode 720 60p, 1080 30p and HQ mode 1080i did 2min clips
5. ok on Vegas 8b Time line
6. Plan to pick up a 16gb card later today will do more extensive testing tomr.

unfortunately, test on internet shows that the bigger the slower card.
so what is working with a 8 gig could fail with a 16 or for sure will fail with a 32.
(seems 32 gig card are pitifully slow).
real SSD drives or compact flash could be a better deal.

But given the price a bunch 8GB cards might be possible.

Brian, it might be worth a try of 720p24/60 overcrank slow motion.

unfortunately, test on internet shows that the bigger the slower card.
so what is working with a 8 gig could fail with a 16 or for sure will fail with a 32.
(seems 32 gig card are pitifully slow).
real SSD drives or compact flash could be a better deal.

Where do you get this from. I cannot speak for the Lexar SSD cards as the Lexar site does not list specs, but the Transcend ExpressCard/34 SSD cards are ALL LISTED as 8 MB/sec write speed. And the 35mb/s HQ mode is well within the write speed of the card.

I have never heard of higher capacity memory cards being slower than smaller ones. Fact is you buy your memory cards based on speed and both small and large capacity cards are availeble in high speed versions.

I'm thinking here... Could be possible to use those Expresscard to Compactflash Adapters, with a 266x speed rated CF. I've saw one adapter from Delkin that have a transfer rate of 40MB per second.

I don't have the EX1 yet, but someone could do the test to show us if this works...

This card sounds nice, too:
http://www.hama.de/portal/searchSelectedProduct*NO/articleId*157958/action*2563/searchMode*1/bySearch*Hama+ExpressCard+34

with integrated usb-port!

Dennis

OK GUYS BAD NEWS the Lexar SSD card is not fast enough to maintain the HQ 720 60P write speed from the cam for more than 4min Error message comes up restore media, select restore media still on card. The SP modes seem to be ok tried both 1080 24 1080 60i shot 20min on each mode with no problem.

I believe someone posted elsewhere that Juan Martinez said they basically found enough speed issues that Sony wasn't going to certify 3rd Party Cards. That doesn't mean a 3rd Party card wouldn't work if such manufacturer could hit the speed marks but I have hunch Sony did do their testing and generally wasn't happy with the results.

OK GUYS BAD NEWS the Lexar SSD card is not fast enough to maintain the HQ 720 60P write speed from the cam for more than 4min Error message comes up restore media, select restore media still on card. The SP modes seem to be ok tried both 1080 24 1080 60i shot 20min on each mode with no problem.

Did you mean 16 gig Lexar is ok when record in SP mode ?
SP mode is good enough at the moment until SxS cards big price drop in afew years time.


by the way, what is SP mode?

This is typical of compact flash media. Some manufacturers cards work well in some machines and some don't. It is very hard to test every card with every device but they do have differences which can cause issues.
I would stick with certified cards for the machine as you don't know at what point in the process a problem might show up

Did you mean 16 gig Lexar is ok when record in SP mode ?
SP mode is good enough at the moment until SxS cards big price drop in afew years time.


by the way, what is SP mode?

Tested 8GB Lexar

In SP mode the cam shoots HDV format 1440 x1080

This is typical of compact flash media. Some manufacturers cards work well in some machines and some don't. It is very hard to test every card with every device but they do have differences which can cause issues.
I would stick with certified cards for the machine as you don't know at what point in the process a problem might show up

Good point

I own (4) Sony SXS 16 gb cards

I will just use the after market cards as backup an only shoot SP MODE.

Look at this
CompactFlash Card 45MB/s read/write: SanDisk | Products | Photo & Video | Extreme® IV CompactFlash® (http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(2678)-SDCFX4-016G-901-SanDisk_Extreme_IV_CompactFlash_16GB.aspx)

ExpressCard CompactFlash reader - transfer speed: up to 40MB/s - Delkin Devices - Products - Expresscard 34 (http://www.delkin.com/products/adapters/expresscard34/)

The problem is, that the CF reader won't fit into the slot.. (I think).

I just ordered a SD reader from Datafab today and the new Extreme III SDHC card. Will try and post my findings.

Check out this other thread to see what the CF adapter looks like installed...

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/128962-1-11-allows-usb-disk-drive-will-allow-usb-memory-2.html

look at post #29.

I would not want that in my EX1.

Too bad the Lexar doesn't work for HQ. By the way, what is the write speed specification on that Lexar expresscard SSD? Lexar doesn't list the specs on their site.

FWIW I just shot 27 minutes straight (filled up the card) HQ 1080/60i on a Lexar 8GB SSD card with 1.11, no problems. Overcranking, forget it.

Hello!
Did someone tried this Transcend ExpressCard/34 Solid State Disk, Up to 16GB (http://www.transcendusa.com/Press/index.asp?LangNo=0&PrsNo=690&axn=Detail)?

Thanks!

Hello!
Did someone tried this Transcend ExpressCard/34 Solid State Disk, Up to 16GB (http://www.transcendusa.com/Press/index.asp?LangNo=0&PrsNo=690&axn=Detail)?

Thanks!


Yes i've tried it, my supplier has them in stock.
I tried to overcrank at about 30fps and instantly spat the dummy.
I didn't try it in normal hq mode, but i wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work.
Also, the price was more expensive per gb than the transcend sdhc card, so it makes no sense to buy something bigger and not reliable for more money.
For now i'd say stick to the tried and tested Kensington adaptor with either sandisk or transcend cards.
I'm using the transcend with no problems.

Paul.

Has anyone tried to use the Belkin Express Card Media? It says is has a transfer speed up to 480 Mbps. Picked it up at an Apple Store and thought I should check with you before I open it.

Hello!
Did someone tried this Transcend ExpressCard/34 Solid State Disk, Up to 16GB (http://www.transcendusa.com/Press/index.asp?LangNo=0&PrsNo=690&axn=Detail)?

Thanks!

I'm curious about this too. They are now offering a 32gig version of it too.

I've tried Transcend Express cards and they do not work in HQ mode and throw up errors in SP mode with long clips. I would NOT use them.

Has anyone tried to use the Belkin Express Card Media? It says is has a transfer speed up to 480 Mbps. Picked it up at an Apple Store and thought I should check with you before I open it.



Will not work send it back

I'm curious about this too. They are now offering a 32gig version of it too.

I tried one 8 GB Transcend SSD Express card as indicated in my previous post, but it doesn't work in any shooting mode (I've tried each mode, from 1080 25P to 720 25P). It crashes after about 19-22 secs in any configuration (in 1080 25P it crashes in only 3 secs).
So it's not a good deal! I think 32 GB will be slower than 8 GB...
In 1080 25P it is not possible restoring the media, nor formatting it from EX1: I need doing it from a PC. In the other modes I can restoring and formatting it by the camera.

Hope this can help for not wasting time and money.

I'll use it wit my laptop!

regards,
Luca