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Kiflom Bahta
August 28th, 2008, 12:25 AM
What do you guys use to encode to DVD? thx

Danny O'Neill
August 28th, 2008, 01:03 AM
Sony DVD Architect 5

Oleg Kalyan
August 28th, 2008, 01:56 AM
Compressor, or Quicktime encoder on Mac

Travis Cossel
August 28th, 2008, 02:02 AM
Compressor, or Quicktime encoder on Mac

Same here.

Bruce Patterson
August 28th, 2008, 02:11 AM
Compressor here as well.

Blake Cavett
August 28th, 2008, 06:39 AM
That's 4 for Compressor. Takes anywhere from 2-6 hours depending on length.

Danny O'Neill
August 28th, 2008, 07:08 AM
When you say encode do you mean to prepare the DVD menus and build the VOB files or just to render your timeline? We render directly into a DVD compatible stream from Vegas.

Peter Manojlovic
August 28th, 2008, 07:44 AM
Cinemacraft encoder (CCE), for all my MPEG2 encodes...

I'm averaging 3.8x realspeed from DV sources...

Taky Cheung
August 28th, 2008, 07:51 AM
Grass valley Procoder 3

Michael Liebergot
August 28th, 2008, 02:26 PM
Cinemacraft encoder (CCE), for all my MPEG2 encodes...

I'm averaging 3.8x realspeed from DV sources...
Peter, how do yo like CCE?

I was looking at the plug in that will work in Compressor.

Earlier in the year I was curious about it and was looking for anyone with some exeperiece in it to give some feedback on it.

But, being that there's no trial version of the software, and $750 is quite a bit to drop on it I never pursued it any further.

Kiflom Bahta
August 28th, 2008, 10:43 PM
What encoder do you guys recommaned for PC based system? thx

Peter Manojlovic
August 29th, 2008, 07:44 AM
Michael....

I believe the CCE has a Basic version for $85...
Some features might be disabled. It's a speed demon.

The GUI isn't anything fancy, and you need to read the PDF, but once you get beyond the esthetics, and grasp the speed and performance, you'll be amazed...

Again, it's not as robust as compressor, but for DVD encoding, it's definately a Formula car..

Ramesh Singh
August 29th, 2008, 11:35 AM
ffmpeg: Works like a charm for both MPG (DVD) and HD
With "-threads 4" on a Quad Core, I am encoding in less than 2 hours,
what used to take more than 10 hours with CCE or TMPGEnc (MPG only)

HCenc is mentioned as being good too.

Michael Liebergot
August 29th, 2008, 12:02 PM
Michael....

I believe the CCE has a Basic version for $85...
Some features might be disabled. It's a speed demon.

The GUI isn't anything fancy, and you need to read the PDF, but once you get beyond the aesthetics, and grasp the speed and performance, you'll be amazed...

Again, it's not as robust as compressor, but for DVD encoding, it's definitely a Formula car..
So Peter I take it that you have CCE basic?

I was curious how the image quality is for final output.
I have read that the CCE plugin for Compressor produces some ratehr stunning results.

What I am interested in is converting of HD QT render files from FCP to 16:9 SD files for DVD. Speed is important but what's most important to me is quality of the render.

As some problems arise form time to time with my HD down converts in Compressor to SD files. Also I have read that the CCE encoder is Hollywood studio quality, so the overall compression for final output is negligible and stunning.

Peter Manojlovic
August 29th, 2008, 12:50 PM
No, i don't have Basic...

Yes, results are stunning, but everything is subjective...
Some comments from serious encoders (back in the day) was that it tended to "Soften up" the image..But playback on an interlaced TV can't compare to complaints coming from watching interlaced material on a progressive monitor..It's just not a fair comparison.

I get a multipass encode, and it allows me to use up every bit of bitrate for the alloted amount..Especially important for scene changes..
And since 90% of my footage is interlaced, so i can imagine that progressive footage is stunning..
You can even get down to scene detection, and correct localized bitrates..Very powerful under the hood.

Your biggest hurdle would not be with CCE, but rather, how it gets served. My older version of CCE doesn't resize, crop, rotate, color correct etc...It expects a legal frame to get served.
The encoder will be at the mercy of the resizing alogorithm that's being pumped through her engines..

Ilya Spektor
August 29th, 2008, 04:05 PM
What encoder do you guys recommend for PC based system? thx

TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress just for encoding - best possible quality!.. You can also use only one program, TMPGEnc DVD Author 3.0, both for encoding and DVD authoring.

Kiflom Bahta
August 29th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Do you think it is better than premier encoder? Thx

Ilya Spektor
August 29th, 2008, 04:52 PM
Do you think it is better than premier encoder? Thx

I had no chance to compare... but you can download a trial version of TEMPGenc and see for yourself!.. I just love it!..

Denny Kyser
August 30th, 2008, 07:11 AM
Do you think it is better than premier encoder? Thx

Please let me know if you compare them.