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Zach Love
May 31st, 2008, 04:14 AM
Has anyone seen the Sony SLR Alpha mount adapter for the Z7 / S270 for sale yet? Or any info on it?

Zach Love
June 2nd, 2008, 11:17 AM
no one? no replies? do people even know what I'm talking about?

Stephen Eastwood
June 2nd, 2008, 11:31 AM
ability to mount the old minolta lens is nice if you have some, but on such a small chip they are very long, great for some telephoto work.

Zach Love
June 2nd, 2008, 05:32 PM
Since the stock lens is only 12x I'd like a cheap way of having a longer telephoto lenses.

I already have an old Minolta 35mm SLR & lenses, so I've been waiting for this adapter.

Gary Nattrass
June 2nd, 2008, 05:41 PM
I have the nikon mount but havent heard anything about the sony alpha mount:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/GaryNattrass/24052008042.jpg

Vincent Oliver
June 3rd, 2008, 01:38 AM
Where did you get the Nikon mount from and how much was it?
What magnification does it have?
Any light loss?
Any other problems, i.e. strain on the camera body with long Nikkor lenses?

Thanks

Gary Nattrass
June 3rd, 2008, 03:35 AM
Its a mike tapa mount and gives X7 magnification so the 70-300mm lens is a 490-2100mm on the Z7.

I can not see any light loss and it works great, I did a moon shot here:http://www.vimeo.com/1034579

And you can order the adaptor from MTF services here:http://www.mtfservices.com/

I paid £217 delivered inc vat

Vincent Oliver
June 3rd, 2008, 03:38 AM
Thank you, it looks like an intersting addition to the camera, especially as I have 18 Nikon lenses.

Vincent

Gary Nattrass
June 3rd, 2008, 03:42 AM
It is very well made and you will not be disapointed with the resulting footage, I originally got it to use my nikkor 50mm f1.4 and 105mm f2.5 but have found that the more modern zoom lens works fine as well.

A couple of my other zooms from my D300 arent as good but for most of the lenses it is fine.

Vincent Oliver
June 3rd, 2008, 03:50 AM
I have a Nikkor 500mm f8 Mirror lens and also wanted, by coincidence, to film the moon.

I am waiting for my Z7 to arrive, but have been using my own Canon XL1s and XH A1 for some time, but after two recent jobs with the Xl1s the tape let me down so I was looking for a tapeless option, the interchangable lenses comes as an added bonus. I have looked at a FireStore drive, but this seems to be a total RIP off - £900 for a 80gb drive, no thanks.

Vincent
www.photo-i.co.uk

Chad Dyle
June 3rd, 2008, 07:48 AM
I have a Nikon 50mm 1.4 lens that I just purchased for my D300. Obviously with the mount it will fit the camera, but has anyone had problems with their lens seeing the handle or microphone?

Vincent Oliver
June 3rd, 2008, 08:02 AM
Love your site Chad

Gary Nattrass
June 3rd, 2008, 08:27 AM
I have a Nikon 50mm 1.4 lens that I just purchased for my D300. Obviously with the mount it will fit the camera, but has anyone had problems with their lens seeing the handle or microphone?

I dont think there is any chance of that as the X7 magnification will make even a 50mm lens 350mm.

Chad Dyle
June 3rd, 2008, 10:01 AM
Vincent,

Thank you for the compliment. We are planning on changing the site very soon. We are shooting everything in widescreen format, but the site only supports a 4:3 window. The new one will look much better. I would love to switch to a blog format, but I haven't seen anything that I like yet.

Is Sony going to release their own adapter anytime soon?

Luc De Wandel
June 3rd, 2008, 01:54 PM
Is there an adaptor for Canon EF-lenses too?

Brian Standing
June 3rd, 2008, 02:24 PM
The big question will be whether or not the Sony Digital Alpha adaptor will allow access to automatic/electronic iris control on the Sony/Minolta DSLR lenses. Many of these lenses do not have a manual iris ring.

Note that the Mike Tapa Nikon adaptor allows for lens-mounted manual iris control only.

Zach Love
June 3rd, 2008, 05:21 PM
Is Sony going to release their own adapter anytime soon?

That is the question that I started this thread with. When IS sony going release their adapter that they've been talking about since the first press release of the Z7?

Where did you get the Nikon mount from and how much was it?
What magnification does it have?


Technically speaking there is no magnification. A 50mm on a 1/3" CMOS video camera is the same as a 50mm lens on a 35mm SLR. The difference is the FOV (field of view). The same picture taken from the same spot with the same 50mm lens will be aprox 7x magnified on the video camera compared to the SLR.

I think the stock lens on the Z7 is good, but there have already been times where I want to zoom in more. The 12x Zeiss lens stops at about 50mm, so if you have a 100mm SLR lens & SLR lens adapter, you can get twice as close to the subject as w/ the stock lens.

But again, COME ON SONY, what is going on w/ your Alpha mount adapter?!?

Ofer Levy
June 3rd, 2008, 06:26 PM
Is there an adaptor for Canon EF-lenses too?

Hi Luc, unfortunately there isn't one available and Mike Tapa who makes the Nikon adapter told me it's impossible to make a canon adapter.

Luc De Wandel
June 4th, 2008, 01:06 AM
Hi Luc, unfortunately there isn't one available and Mike Tapa who makes the Nikon adapter told me it's impossible to make a canon adapter.

That's bad news. I was considering selling my Canon XH-A1 and buying a Z7 for the interchangable lenses, but I sold all my Nikon stuff last year and replaced everything with Canon (Didn't regret that, because for my business - concert photograpy - Canon's lowlight performance is way better). Now I'll have to reconsider the switch carefully. What other advantages can the Z7 offer me over the XH-A1, except for the CF-recording?

Zach Love
June 4th, 2008, 03:53 AM
What other advantages can the Z7 offer me over the XH-A1, except for the CF-recording?
This should really be a thread all its' own, but for one the ability to zoom & focus at the same time.

Plus you can take off the stock lens & get a wide selection of Nikon lenses (or Sony Alpha (aka Minolta) lenses if Sony ever gets around to releasing their adapter) for much less than the price of a new video lens.

But if you really need to, just use some duct tape to attach the Canon lenses until someone w/ a halfway pro machine shop gets around to welding two bits of metal together and starts selling adapters.


And just for kicks, another thing the Z7 has that the XH-A1 doesn't. In camera (viewfinder / LCD) digital level to keep your video from looking like an old Batman episode.

Luc De Wandel
June 4th, 2008, 05:04 AM
This should really be a thread all its' own, but for one the ability to zoom & focus at the same time.

Plus you can take off the stock lens & get a wide selection of Nikon lenses (or Sony Alpha (aka Minolta) lenses if Sony ever gets around to releasing their adapter) for much less than the price of a new video lens.

But if you really need to, just use some duct tape to attach the Canon lenses until someone w/ a halfway pro machine shop gets around to welding two bits of metal together and starts selling adapters.


And just for kicks, another thing the Z7 has that the XH-A1 doesn't. In camera (viewfinder / LCD) digital level to keep your video from looking like an old Batman episode.

Thanks for the advice, Zach. That's probably the best way to look at things. Do you know if there's an important difference in image quality(sharpness above all) between the two cams? In Belgium the price difference is quite big: the Z7 costs 35% more than the XH-A1!

Vincent Oliver
June 4th, 2008, 05:16 AM
And just for kicks, another thing the Z7 has that the XH-A1 doesn't. In camera (viewfinder / LCD) digital level to keep your video from looking like an old Batman episode.


Most tripods have a spirit level built in, this is not a big selling point. For handheld work you either focus your attention to the subject or have it focused on the spirit level. As far as I am concerned all the information I want to see in a viewfinder is, how much recording time is left and an indication to let me know it is recording. The rest are all distractions.

The big advantage with the Z7 is the interchangeable lens and tapeless option, but then I don't think it will be long before third party Card adapters become available

Zach Love
June 5th, 2008, 01:08 AM
Thanks for the advice, Zach. That's probably the best way to look at things. Do you know if there's an important difference in image quality(sharpness above all) between the two cams? In Belgium the price difference is quite big: the Z7 costs 35% more than the XH-A1!

both are good cameras. I don't know off hand what a side to side comparison brings up between the Z7 & A1. all that I can think is the the lens & CF card is VERY much worth the 35% price increase. but if you're not going to use the CF recorder or every buy / rent extra lenses then the extra 35% could be more useful on lights, mics or tripod. just depends on what fits your needs.

the EX1 has much better picture quality than either the Z7 or A1. but shooting on miniDV tapes & CF cards (two mediums you can buy at any electronic store) was what fit my needs, add to that I saved over $2k on the Z7 over the EX1 and I'm happy w/ what I bought


For handheld work you either focus your attention to the subject or have it focused on the spirit level.

but w/ the level on screen I can focus on both w/o looking away. not a deal breaker, but another tool that you can use like zebras, color temp reading & audio metering.

Luc De Wandel
June 5th, 2008, 10:28 AM
Thanks again, Zach. The comparison has slightly shifted now, because shortly, the Canon XL-H1A will be available here. I must admit that the main thing that puts me off the XH-A1 is that it is handheld, not shoulder mounted. That is why I'm looking inot the shoulder-mounted XL-H1A. But... if I compare that camera to the Z7, it strikes me that the latter has much more possibilities as far as tweaking and ergonomy is concerned. Have you experienced the Z7 to be hard to hold for a longer time without a shoulder rest? I cannot get my hands one one where I live, so it's hard to try out.

Vincent Oliver
June 5th, 2008, 10:33 AM
At the moment I use both the Canon XL1s and XH A1. I love the quality of the A1 and love the handling of the XL1s. The H1 would seem to be the natural choice, although I do like the Z7 and the tapeless option. If I could find a better solution to tapeless other than the overpriced Firestore, then I may just go down the XL-H1A route and stay with Canon.

The XH A1 is awkward to use for any lenght of time and I suffer more with camera movement than with the XL1s, although a good monopod has resolved the problem to some extent. The buttons on the XH A1 are nothing short of awful, they are far too small, whereas the XL1s has very positive controls.

Brendan Pyatt
June 6th, 2008, 09:59 AM
Anyone heard anything about when this adapter will be available?

Its annoying when they announce something and then dont release it...

Id like a long lense with autofocus / auto iris...

Brendan Pyatt
August 21st, 2008, 05:33 AM
Or am I waiting for something that isn't going to happen?

I don't understand why this is taking so long to come out. The Z7 has been out for months now.

Brooke Rudnick
August 21st, 2008, 07:10 PM
I think the adapter LA-100W adapter for alpha lenses is coming out in october.... :-)

Ofer Levy
August 21st, 2008, 10:18 PM
cancelled.

Brendan Pyatt
August 22nd, 2008, 04:44 AM
Hi,

I have found one! It's in stock with Sony Europe.

5433 | Sony LA-100W (LA100W) 35mm Alpha Lens Adaptor for HVR-Z7E / HVR-S270E (http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/public/view_product.php?productID=5433)

Now I want a zoom-able long telephoto.

Either a SAL-70300G (70-300mm F4.5-5.6) or SAL-70200G
(70-200mm F2.8)

The 70-300 is lighter but has an extending lens when zoomed. The 70-200 is longer and heavier but stronger.

I wonder how much the stock lens on the z7 weighs?

Aaron Lucas
August 26th, 2008, 08:22 AM
cancelled.

No mate, not cancelled! Stock of the LA100W is due into Australia in October, SRP $869.00 inc GST.

Ofer Levy
August 26th, 2008, 08:53 AM
No mate, not cancelled! Stock of the LA100W is due into Australia in October, SRP $869.00 inc GST.

Hi Aaron,

I deleted the content of my post as I realised I have already commented on this thread.
I am not that excited about the LA100W as I got a Nikon adapter a few months ago and I am extremely happy with it so I don't really see the need especially considering the price.
I got my adapter from Mike Tapa for about half this price...

Brendan Pyatt
August 26th, 2008, 09:05 AM
Hi Aaron,

I deleted the content of my post as I realised I have already commented on this thread.
I am not that excited about the LA100W as I got a Nikon adapter a few months ago and I am extremely happy with it so I don't really see the need especially considering the price.
I got my adapter from Mike Tapa for about half this price...

I believe the major difference is that the Sony Alpha mount will allow autofocus to work whereas the 3rd party add-on adapters do not. Whether or not this is any use to you is up to you but I am just saying there is a real difference between this Sony adapter and the others.

Aaron Lucas
August 26th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Hi Aaron,

I deleted the content of my post as I realised I have already commented on this thread.
I am not that excited about the LA100W as I got a Nikon adapter a few months ago and I am extremely happy with it so I don't really see the need especially considering the price.
I got my adapter from Mike Tapa for about half this price...

Hi Ofer - i did think it was possible you meant 'post cancelled' but thought I'd respond about the LA100W just in case!

Glad you're happy with your pictures from your current setup.

Ofer Levy
August 26th, 2008, 09:37 PM
I believe the major difference is that the Sony Alpha mount will allow autofocus to work whereas the 3rd party add-on adapters do not. Whether or not this is any use to you is up to you but I am just saying there is a real difference between this Sony adapter and the others.

I am sure you are right about the difference Brendan. I don't use the AF though.

David Montgomery
August 27th, 2008, 07:49 PM
I am curious, has anyone given thought to using the supplied Z7 lens (VCL-412BWH) on a Sony Alpha A-Mount Camera? I am sure you would need an adapter to do this, however, does anyone have any suggestions or adapters that would work?

Brendan Pyatt
August 30th, 2008, 06:32 AM
Be warned - I received mine today and it doesn't allow autofocus....

Rodger Smith
September 11th, 2008, 12:53 AM
That's bad news. I was considering selling my Canon XH-A1 and buying a Z7 for the interchangable lenses, but I sold all my Nikon stuff last year and replaced everything with Canon (Didn't regret that, because for my business - concert photograpy - Canon's lowlight performance is way better). Now I'll have to reconsider the switch carefully. What other advantages can the Z7 offer me over the XH-A1, except for the CF-recording?

Low light. Equal or better than the DVX100B and PD170. I was amazed at shooting HD in that low a light, especially after using an HVX200 that LOVES LOTS OF LIGHT.

Rodger Smith
September 11th, 2008, 12:55 AM
. . .In Belgium the price difference is quite big: the Z7 costs 35% more than the XH-A1!

Not bad. In the US it's more like 50 to 60% more. ~3100 vs ~5400

Rodger Smith
September 11th, 2008, 01:01 AM
. . . I got my adapter from Mike Tapa for about half this price...

"Ofer" Where'd you get your adapter from?

Gary Nattrass
September 11th, 2008, 03:26 AM
Creative video have them here in the UK: Creative Video Sony Specialist Dealers > Sony LA-100W (LA100W) 35mm Alpha Lens Adaptor for HVR-Z7E / HVR-S270E (http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/public/view_item_cat.php?catalogue_number=sony_la-100w)

Very expensive compared to the mike tapa nikon mount:Nikon to Sony HVR-Z7 & HVR-S270 lens adaptor on eBay, also, Lens Mounts Adaptors, Camera Lenses, Photography (end time 03-Oct-08 15:58:21 BST) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=300255590897&Category=30059)

Ofer Levy
September 11th, 2008, 06:29 AM
"Ofer" Where'd you get your adapter from?

I got mine from Mike Tapa - same as Gary's.

Zach Love
September 14th, 2008, 02:14 AM
Has anyone used the mount yet? Or have a pdf manual?

I have the Mike Tappa Nikon adapter which is great, only I've found that the back focus is off & so the focus change when I zoom.

Anyone know how well Sony's adapter works? What, if any, features it has?

Brendan Pyatt
September 14th, 2008, 02:18 AM
I used one for an hour or so I can't really tell you much.

It didn't allow autofocus. It did allow auto aperature.

Kuswendy Yasukin
September 16th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Hi everyone,

I have been watching this forum for quite sometime but I has not got the chance to post anything yet, so this is my first post and sorry if I sounds blunt or missed a thread that I supposed to read before I post.

I own Z7U and have been wondering what would be the difference in terms of all aspect in quality, color, DoP if we use the MTF mount directly with 35mm SLR mount with the 3rd party market 35mm Adapter such as Letus, Redrock or Brevis?

Has anyone try to compare the video result side by side?

Regards
Wen

Ofer Levy
October 4th, 2008, 09:19 AM
Hi everyone,

I have been watching this forum for quite sometime but I has not got the chance to post anything yet, so this is my first post and sorry if I sounds blunt or missed a thread that I supposed to read before I post.

I own Z7U and have been wondering what would be the difference in terms of all aspect in quality, color, DoP if we use the MTF mount directly with 35mm SLR mount with the 3rd party market 35mm Adapter such as Letus, Redrock or Brevis?

Has anyone try to compare the video result side by side?

Regards
Wen

I use the MTF adapter on my Z7. I have no experience with the other adapters you mention.
SInce the MTF is only a ring - no optics then the quality will be as good as the lens you use. I use prime Nikon SLR still lenses and I am very happy with the results. You will have the x7 crop factor which I believe doesn't exsist with the other adapters.

Mihali Moore
October 8th, 2008, 09:24 AM
Hi all,

I've just bought a Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 lens and have attached it to my Z7 with a MTF adapter ring. I have noticed some chromatic aberration when zoomed right in. Has anyone else had this problem? The lens I have is the new ED version. I have attached a couple of examples.

Cheers,

Mihali

Luc De Wandel
October 8th, 2008, 01:04 PM
Hi all,

I've just bought a Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 lens and have attached it to my Z7 with a MTF adapter ring. I have noticed some chromatic aberration when zoomed right in. Has anyone else had this problem? The lens I have is the new ED version. I have attached a couple of examples.

Cheers,

Mihali

Hi Mihali,

I'm not sure if what I see there is chromatic abberation... don't forget that at full zoom with this lens, you're talking about a 1400 mm virtual focal length. Atmospheric effects - the same you experience when looking through 30x binoculars - may cause the strange effect. I'll let you know when I get my (second hand) 300 mm Nikon prime this weekend, if I get somthing similar.

Ofer Levy
October 10th, 2008, 04:28 PM
I don't see any significant CA. Images are a bit small and not sharp enough to be able to see.

I use the Mike Tapa adapter with the same lens and get good results. No CA. I am not very happy with the bokeh of this lens though but this has nothing to do with the adapter.

John Dewey
October 13th, 2008, 08:39 PM
Hi,

I own a Sony HVR-Z7U and am interested in purchasing the Mike Tapa Nikon mount for my camera.

My question is:

Do I have to buy Nikon lenses that have a manual aperture ring on the lens itself? I'm asking this because I am not sure how I would control my exposure without an aperture ring on the lens.

If someone could please explain to me how this works, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks in advance,

John